Project BF-109 E 4 1/5
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Sorry but I take a issue with this statement, If you built a plane and had someone else do the maiden flight for you wouldn't you be sure that the plane was completely airworthy before handing the Tx over? I know I would never dream of asking someone to maiden one of my models with out checking the c of g personaly first, You can't really put the blame on your friend for not balancing the model per the plans when it's your plane and your plans can you?
Not trying to be rude but it just doesn't seem right for you to push the blame on the your friend, it is your model afterall.
Andrew.
Not trying to be rude but it just doesn't seem right for you to push the blame on the your friend, it is your model afterall.
Andrew.
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his fault, checked the CG but is not made āāby my plans ......... nothing to fear but this will be a lesson for hem The CG must be like in my plans or 25% or 12 sm from the front angle , but can be and 23% . Between 23-25%
Yes the model had fly , but to short cose the control was hard owing to bad CG
The nex time will be better I think
his fault, checked the CG but is not made āāby my plans ......... nothing to fear but this will be a lesson for hem The CG must be like in my plans or 25% or 12 sm from the front angle , but can be and 23% . Between 23-25%
Yes the model had fly , but to short cose the control was hard owing to bad CG
The nex time will be better I think
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I do not judge my friend but the CG of his model was more than what I calculated according to the profile of the wing that I use. So in my drawings the CG is 23-25% of the leading edge, and my friend's 30%.
Separately in weight that was put in a 40 cube motor was already weak for that plane model. For the second fly he change the engine with 55 cc , the weight is one kilogram less before was 10 kg , now is 8,850 kg. !
So, we are both working in a team. I believe in his pilot abilities as he is a better pilot than I am. When he makes a mistake I am not the one to judge him. ........ combination of factors !
Very soon we will have the second fly and I believe that will be a good
Casey , thanks buddy !
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Separately in weight that was put in a 40 cube motor was already weak for that plane model. For the second fly he change the engine with 55 cc , the weight is one kilogram less before was 10 kg , now is 8,850 kg. !
So, we are both working in a team. I believe in his pilot abilities as he is a better pilot than I am. When he makes a mistake I am not the one to judge him. ........ combination of factors !
Very soon we will have the second fly and I believe that will be a good
Casey , thanks buddy !
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RE: Project BF-109 E 4 1/5
I apologize for that Fokke I did not realize this was not your personal model but that of your friend. I thought that he was simply doing the maiden for you; I should have read more carefully.
Andrew.
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Hi guys, i finish with the flaps and ailerons
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Hy again guys
I made new wings for my model, because I give my wings of my friend . So I made the wings and carbon fiber Kevlat- tubes , yes it is to slowly but I have too much other work
This is the tubes
The biger is 30Š¼Š¼ Š„ 480 Š¼Š¼ weight 79gr ( I cover it with glass fabrik)
The other 15Š¼Š¼. Š„ 1000Š¼Š¼ weight 80 gr.
And the glass tube 15Š¼Š¼ Š„ 1000Š¼Š¼ weight25 gr.
received very well
Here is short video with the tubes :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=W6ylK2auUXQ
I made new wings for my model, because I give my wings of my friend . So I made the wings and carbon fiber Kevlat- tubes , yes it is to slowly but I have too much other work
This is the tubes
The biger is 30Š¼Š¼ Š„ 480 Š¼Š¼ weight 79gr ( I cover it with glass fabrik)
The other 15Š¼Š¼. Š„ 1000Š¼Š¼ weight 80 gr.
And the glass tube 15Š¼Š¼ Š„ 1000Š¼Š¼ weight25 gr.
received very well
Here is short video with the tubes :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=W6ylK2auUXQ
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Several pics from wings construction and tubes :
And video with wings flaps and ailerons test :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=SmG5tJeGNOA
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And video with wings flaps and ailerons test :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=SmG5tJeGNOA
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Video with all mobile controllable surfaces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=SmG5tJeGNOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BgFUX2bPsqw#!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BgFUX2bPsqw#!
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Hi guys, today I made engine tests and I think I am redy for fly in the next week maybe , i must to find some free time
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Hi guys
After settings and several adjustments of the engine and electronic we tryed how the model react on the airstrip, the result is two broken props the reason is landing gear. is my fault, the small distance between wheels [>:] stupid mistake , the first think who I will make in my home will be landinggear and again ot the airstrip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61a9b...ature=youtu.be
After settings and several adjustments of the engine and electronic we tryed how the model react on the airstrip, the result is two broken props the reason is landing gear. is my fault, the small distance between wheels [>:] stupid mistake , the first think who I will make in my home will be landinggear and again ot the airstrip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61a9b...ature=youtu.be
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RE: Project BF-109 E 4 1/5
Fokke it is looking so good mate and almost ready to fly.
Couple of things, Make sure you hold full up elevator for taxiing, even if you dial in extra on high rates. This will keep the tails on the ground and keep it slow.
Also remember these early aircraft operated off grass strips so they were not so 'grippy' on the hard surfaces and tracked a lot better for take off. It might be an idea to find a nice low cut grass surface to fly off for the first few flights. I find with my ESM 109 on take off I have full up elevator for the initial roll then slowly centralise it and then leave it alone and concentrate on rudder to keep it dead straight, throttling up slowly so the tail lifts and then it is running on it's mains. It will start flying soon after that.
Well done any way mate. I will have some questions for you very soon as I look at putting my machine together.
Cheers,
Brad (still a very proud '109' owner)
Couple of things, Make sure you hold full up elevator for taxiing, even if you dial in extra on high rates. This will keep the tails on the ground and keep it slow.
Also remember these early aircraft operated off grass strips so they were not so 'grippy' on the hard surfaces and tracked a lot better for take off. It might be an idea to find a nice low cut grass surface to fly off for the first few flights. I find with my ESM 109 on take off I have full up elevator for the initial roll then slowly centralise it and then leave it alone and concentrate on rudder to keep it dead straight, throttling up slowly so the tail lifts and then it is running on it's mains. It will start flying soon after that.
Well done any way mate. I will have some questions for you very soon as I look at putting my machine together.
Cheers,
Brad (still a very proud '109' owner)
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Brad, you're absolutely right about everything you said! Should I rebuild the tail wheel to turn at least rudder, It is very important also
Thanks for yŠ¾ur comment and advice Brad !!!
Thanks for yŠ¾ur comment and advice Brad !!!
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Brad, you're absolutely right about everything you said! Should I rebuild the tail wheel to turn at least rudder, It is very important also
Thanks for yŠ¾ur comment and advice Brad !!!
Brad, you're absolutely right about everything you said! Should I rebuild the tail wheel to turn at least rudder, It is very important also
Thanks for yŠ¾ur comment and advice Brad !!!
Remember also you are testing an unproven model (lucky you) so there may be many mishaps and the odd frustration.
I'm sure you will work through it mate. I wish I was at the stage of testing with you but this will be later.
Good luck.
Brad
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Fokke
Thank you very much for your reply I am kind of surprised that the price is so reasonable. This makes it a lot more affordable for us guys over here because I'm sure shipping to America will cost a pretty penny. Again thank you for your reply and when the time is right I will be getting one of these.
Fokke
Thank you very much for your reply I am kind of surprised that the price is so reasonable. This makes it a lot more affordable for us guys over here because I'm sure shipping to America will cost a pretty penny. Again thank you for your reply and when the time is right I will be getting one of these.
By the way sent seven 7 KITs in USA, Australia, Rusia, France Sweden and 2 kits here in BG , so the price to USA and Australia is almost the same
Here is the BBrad topic : http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11...m.htm#11396422
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Hi guys, the model FLYING !!!!
The first flight was performed yesterday.
FIRST FLY VIDEO :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnb_L...ature=youtu.be
The seccond video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PINdr...ature=youtu.be
The first flight was performed yesterday.
FIRST FLY VIDEO :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnb_L...ature=youtu.be
The seccond video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PINdr...ature=youtu.be
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RE: Project BF-109 E 4 1/5
Rumen that is so awesome mate!!!
I will have to call your test pilot 'Full throttle man'
It sounded windy, I hate the way you pilot 'burps' the throttle while taxiing, it behaved very well on take off, it flew well (and fast) it looked well balanced and it landed and stayed straight.
What a great test flight.
That's it I am dusting off the building board and doing my wings!
Congratulations Mr Fokke. (and Mrs Fokke)
Brad
I will have to call your test pilot 'Full throttle man'
It sounded windy, I hate the way you pilot 'burps' the throttle while taxiing, it behaved very well on take off, it flew well (and fast) it looked well balanced and it landed and stayed straight.
What a great test flight.
That's it I am dusting off the building board and doing my wings!
Congratulations Mr Fokke. (and Mrs Fokke)
Brad
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IS THIS MY FRIEND RUMEN'S THREAD ?? 8-0 !!
Congratulations Sir - You ARE The Man !!
Another unbelievable dream come true - by a true Artist!
I can't stop smiling so Ican't imagine your face!
The photos are inspirational, just awesome.
Congratulations Sir - You ARE The Man !!
Another unbelievable dream come true - by a true Artist!
I can't stop smiling so Ican't imagine your face!
The photos are inspirational, just awesome.
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WOWOWO! Thanks guys, I am a very very happy man!
The model first flight passed normally and the landing was without any flaps! A throttle was caused due to a software problem with the mixer of ailerons, several seconds after the model took off... One of the ailerons moved only from the midle to down!!! My friend (the test pilot) was in very a good condition to handle with the first model testing without any major issues.
The model must be regulated litlle bit more, some changes in the radio and this is it after second and rhird fly averything will be perfect and we will be able to make TonŠ¾ (snap-roll) reversman loop and all other figures
Cheers
The model first flight passed normally and the landing was without any flaps! A throttle was caused due to a software problem with the mixer of ailerons, several seconds after the model took off... One of the ailerons moved only from the midle to down!!! My friend (the test pilot) was in very a good condition to handle with the first model testing without any major issues.
The model must be regulated litlle bit more, some changes in the radio and this is it after second and rhird fly averything will be perfect and we will be able to make TonŠ¾ (snap-roll) reversman loop and all other figures
Cheers