German Police Thwart RC Terrorists
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German Police Thwart RC Terrorists
Courtesy of Aero-News.net:
German police have taken two men into custody and searched buildings at several addresses in multiple cities, thwarting what they say was a plan to use remote-controlled airplanes to carry out terrorist attacks.
Homes were raided in Stuttgart, Munich, and Dachau, according to a report in the U.K. newspaper The Sun. Among the materials seized were technical information and other paperwork that indicated there was a "home grown" attack in the planning stages.
German authorities said that during theTuesday morningraid, police confiscated multiple model aircraft, some reportedly large enough to carry sufficient explosives to destroy a commercial building. Also seized was paperwork relating to money laundering that would allow the suspects, who are reportedly of Tunisian descent, to fund the attacks.
The authorities said that the two suspects are connected with a Jihadist organization which they declined to identify. They also did not release information about the likely targets.
Among the addresses that were raided Tuesday was one in the Munich Olympic Village. It was in that compound in 1972 that members of the Palestinian Black September movement took eleven members of the Israeli Olympic team hostage. Those athletes died during a shootout at the Munich Airport.
German officials say the country remains as a "top target" for terrorist organizations for its support of NATO operations in Afghanistan.
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German police have taken two men into custody and searched buildings at several addresses in multiple cities, thwarting what they say was a plan to use remote-controlled airplanes to carry out terrorist attacks.
Homes were raided in Stuttgart, Munich, and Dachau, according to a report in the U.K. newspaper The Sun. Among the materials seized were technical information and other paperwork that indicated there was a "home grown" attack in the planning stages.
German authorities said that during theTuesday morningraid, police confiscated multiple model aircraft, some reportedly large enough to carry sufficient explosives to destroy a commercial building. Also seized was paperwork relating to money laundering that would allow the suspects, who are reportedly of Tunisian descent, to fund the attacks.
The authorities said that the two suspects are connected with a Jihadist organization which they declined to identify. They also did not release information about the likely targets.
Among the addresses that were raided Tuesday was one in the Munich Olympic Village. It was in that compound in 1972 that members of the Palestinian Black September movement took eleven members of the Israeli Olympic team hostage. Those athletes died during a shootout at the Munich Airport.
German officials say the country remains as a "top target" for terrorist organizations for its support of NATO operations in Afghanistan.
FMI:www.berlin.de/polizei/english.html
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That is a pretty big plane to fly enough explosive to destroy a commercial building. I wonder what that plane was. Do they realize how difficult this attack would be?
That is a pretty big plane to fly enough explosive to destroy a commercial building. I wonder what that plane was. Do they realize how difficult this attack would be?
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+1 on the size big enough to destroy a commercial building. Amazing.
I question also the point about a money laundering scheme. By definition that is converting dirty money into clean. If you are going to use the money for 'dirty' purposes, why bother to go the trouble and great expense of laundering it?
I guess I just don't have a criminal mind (or a reporter's pen).
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I question also the point about a money laundering scheme. By definition that is converting dirty money into clean. If you are going to use the money for 'dirty' purposes, why bother to go the trouble and great expense of laundering it?
I guess I just don't have a criminal mind (or a reporter's pen).
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I have seen some pretty large models over the years. The largest one I ever saw was an eight engine B-52 model, I think the wingspan was 170 inches or more. Anyway, if you looked inside the thing it was chock full of fuel systems, servos, receivers, and batteries. There was precious little room for any other stuff, i.e. explosives, certainly not enough to blow up a shed let alone a building. I think the Germans are exagerating a bit.Still, US lawmakers see these reports and without any knowledge of RC they start looking at ways to regulate or outlaw the hobby. it is too bad that our world is controlled by fear and ignorance.
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Anything is possible... an attack of this sort would require testing and technical support. Hopefully, the plot would be revealed in the early stages as this was. It takes a lot of flying experience to control a heavy aircraft... keep your eyes open and watch for such activity. Most likely this would not be at a flying field. If you see this happening in remote areas, you should report it. Best case, a couple of modelers get to show their aircraft off. Worse case, an attack is foiled, and arrests are made.
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Since this was reported by the media it is loosely based on facts and most likely inacurate fabrications.
A plane large enough to blow up a comercial building (assuming we're not talking about a 7-11 here) would need to be the size of a Cessna 150 or better.
A plane large enough to blow up a comercial building (assuming we're not talking about a 7-11 here) would need to be the size of a Cessna 150 or better.
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There is a difference between blowing up and burning down. I believe it would be impossible to blow up a large building using a typical RC model aircraft.
But, a couple of pounds of Thermite or less can start quite a fire! Remember that the terrorists often use the amplifying effects of publicity to enhance results.
Let's hope key words in this don't excessively excite the powers that be! Some time ago, a popular fiction author described a plot that used a concrete mixer truck
filled with a fertilizer base mixture as a plausible improvised mobile bomb. The same author also, years before 9/11, described a plot using a hijacked airliner to do in
the congress and executive branch during a joint session for the state of the union message. I often wondered if that book was unintended inspiration for 9/11.
But, a couple of pounds of Thermite or less can start quite a fire! Remember that the terrorists often use the amplifying effects of publicity to enhance results.
Let's hope key words in this don't excessively excite the powers that be! Some time ago, a popular fiction author described a plot that used a concrete mixer truck
filled with a fertilizer base mixture as a plausible improvised mobile bomb. The same author also, years before 9/11, described a plot using a hijacked airliner to do in
the congress and executive branch during a joint session for the state of the union message. I often wondered if that book was unintended inspiration for 9/11.
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Terrorists don't need any help in thinki g of ways to terrorize.
If its your life's passion you will think about them all on your own.
rc model deliveryif any kind is useless for their goals.
If its your life's passion you will think about them all on your own.
rc model deliveryif any kind is useless for their goals.