Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
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Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
Folks,
Bought a product via Postal Money Order from and individual on RC Universe. Have not recieved the product and the guy is non-responsive. [:@]
Turns out the guy may very well be operating a scam. If you see anything from the following individual report it to the moderator.
Seller:
Mark Shay
45259 13th cavalry circle
El paso , Texas 79904
[email protected]
[email protected]
912-508-4561
He has ripped off myself and two other model aviators. Following was from one of the moderators on RC Universe:
On Jun 26, 2013 12:46 PM, "John Neff" wrote:
Mr. Shay was found yesterday to have previously operated another account which received a similar complaint to your own. He was suspended pending resolution of that situation. His only response was a profanity laced tirade which resulted in him being banned. When it was found he had been banned under the previous account, his current account was also banned.
Unless you receive a tracking number from him today, I would seriously consider contacting your local authorities to file a complaint against him. Given you and he both live in Texas, your chances of getting a positive response from the police is better than if you two lived in different states. You may even be able to file a complaint through the Texas Attorneys General.
Thank you,
John
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Bought a product via Postal Money Order from and individual on RC Universe. Have not recieved the product and the guy is non-responsive. [:@]
Turns out the guy may very well be operating a scam. If you see anything from the following individual report it to the moderator.
Seller:
Mark Shay
45259 13th cavalry circle
El paso , Texas 79904
[email protected]
[email protected]
912-508-4561
He has ripped off myself and two other model aviators. Following was from one of the moderators on RC Universe:
On Jun 26, 2013 12:46 PM, "John Neff" wrote:
Mr. Shay was found yesterday to have previously operated another account which received a similar complaint to your own. He was suspended pending resolution of that situation. His only response was a profanity laced tirade which resulted in him being banned. When it was found he had been banned under the previous account, his current account was also banned.
Unless you receive a tracking number from him today, I would seriously consider contacting your local authorities to file a complaint against him. Given you and he both live in Texas, your chances of getting a positive response from the police is better than if you two lived in different states. You may even be able to file a complaint through the Texas Attorneys General.
Thank you,
John
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RE: Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
That guy posted in the rc car forum a few months ago and said he was about to be deployed to Afghanistan and wanted rc donations for him and his friends to play with when they where there, he didn't get any positive replies. I didn't have any idea it was a fraud, just thought it was ridiculous to ask for that just because he decided to join the military, which I guess was a lie.
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RE: Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
All,
I am one of the other two individuals that the original poster was talking about. I bought a small electric plan from Mark back on June 3rd. I sent the money order, and he acknowledged receiving it a few days later. However, that was the last message I received from him until now. I sent multiple emails asking about the status of shippment, but no reply from Mark. I then sent an email explaining that I was going to notify the authorities, and turn him in for theft and/or mail fraud. That got his attention, because he emailed me back right away, and was very deffensive, and rude. He explained that he supposedly shipped my plane through Greyhound, but has no tracking info or bus ticket at all. I called my local bus station, and they didn't have anything for me. I then called the El Paso Greyhound station, and they had no record of shipment. After explaining this in another email to Mark, all I received was a profanity laced email with nothing more then excuses. I still have no plane nor has any money been refunded.
PLEASE, do not let thisthief scam you as well.
I am one of the other two individuals that the original poster was talking about. I bought a small electric plan from Mark back on June 3rd. I sent the money order, and he acknowledged receiving it a few days later. However, that was the last message I received from him until now. I sent multiple emails asking about the status of shippment, but no reply from Mark. I then sent an email explaining that I was going to notify the authorities, and turn him in for theft and/or mail fraud. That got his attention, because he emailed me back right away, and was very deffensive, and rude. He explained that he supposedly shipped my plane through Greyhound, but has no tracking info or bus ticket at all. I called my local bus station, and they didn't have anything for me. I then called the El Paso Greyhound station, and they had no record of shipment. After explaining this in another email to Mark, all I received was a profanity laced email with nothing more then excuses. I still have no plane nor has any money been refunded.
PLEASE, do not let thisthief scam you as well.
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RE: Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
Can't pay anyone like this a visit.
No amount of money is worth getting in an altercation. You have no idea what any criminal is capable of and what length they will go to steal.
We've got another plan.
Sgt Shay is being contacted by Fort Bliss authorities. I suspect he may have a very big problem to resolve shortly.
No amount of money is worth getting in an altercation. You have no idea what any criminal is capable of and what length they will go to steal.
We've got another plan.
Sgt Shay is being contacted by Fort Bliss authorities. I suspect he may have a very big problem to resolve shortly.
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RE: Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
The other side of this story.
I'm very concerned he was able to open yet a 2nd RC Universe account (the original account was suspended) and with this 2nd account stole from Sgt Ski and myself. I understand there may be more people affected by Sgt Mark Shay.
***** How is RC Universe going to prevent Mark Shay (or the next cyber thief) from opening a 3rd account and doing this to other individuals on RC Universe? *****
Sgt Ski and I have contacted the Military Police Investigation Unit at Fort Bliss El Paso, Texas. An investigation has been opened against Mark Shay.
We would like to find out if there are other RC Universe members that have been victimized. It would be extremely helpful to have other victims contact the Military Police Investigation Unit at Fort Bliss El Paso, Texas. I'm sure those victims would be more than happy to report their experience with Mark Shay.
Feel free to call Military Police Investigation at Fort Bliss, El Paso, Texas - 915-307-1015 - they are very interested in any report reference Sgt Mark Shay.
I'm very concerned he was able to open yet a 2nd RC Universe account (the original account was suspended) and with this 2nd account stole from Sgt Ski and myself. I understand there may be more people affected by Sgt Mark Shay.
***** How is RC Universe going to prevent Mark Shay (or the next cyber thief) from opening a 3rd account and doing this to other individuals on RC Universe? *****
Sgt Ski and I have contacted the Military Police Investigation Unit at Fort Bliss El Paso, Texas. An investigation has been opened against Mark Shay.
We would like to find out if there are other RC Universe members that have been victimized. It would be extremely helpful to have other victims contact the Military Police Investigation Unit at Fort Bliss El Paso, Texas. I'm sure those victims would be more than happy to report their experience with Mark Shay.
Feel free to call Military Police Investigation at Fort Bliss, El Paso, Texas - 915-307-1015 - they are very interested in any report reference Sgt Mark Shay.
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RE: Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
ORIGINAL: t-max97
That guy posted in the rc car forum a few months ago and said he was about to be deployed to Afghanistan and wanted rc donations for him and his friends to play with when they where there, he didn't get any positive replies. I didn't have any idea it was a fraud, just thought it was ridiculous to ask for that just because he decided to join the military, which I guess was a lie.
That guy posted in the rc car forum a few months ago and said he was about to be deployed to Afghanistan and wanted rc donations for him and his friends to play with when they where there, he didn't get any positive replies. I didn't have any idea it was a fraud, just thought it was ridiculous to ask for that just because he decided to join the military, which I guess was a lie.
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ORIGINAL: collector1231
I had a junk car i was going to give him (tried to pay someone 15 dollars to take it off me) and they didn't want to. Good thing he was found phony.
ORIGINAL: t-max97
That guy posted in the rc car forum a few months ago and said he was about to be deployed to Afghanistan and wanted rc donations for him and his friends to play with when they where there, he didn't get any positive replies. I didn't have any idea it was a fraud, just thought it was ridiculous to ask for that just because he decided to join the military, which I guess was a lie.
That guy posted in the rc car forum a few months ago and said he was about to be deployed to Afghanistan and wanted rc donations for him and his friends to play with when they where there, he didn't get any positive replies. I didn't have any idea it was a fraud, just thought it was ridiculous to ask for that just because he decided to join the military, which I guess was a lie.
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Mark Shay requested I remove this post. I told him I would do so... only after I received my money back or the motor I bought from him. Well... today I received a motor from him.
If I could go back... and have never seen his ad... or have any dealing with this guy... I would do so in a NEW YORK MINUTE. But I can't.
This was the biggest P-I-T-A online transaction I have had after years of trading.
In any case this is behind me. Unfortunately, I'll never forget this guy and El Paso, Texas.
I'll NEVER send a money order again.
So... Mr. Moderator... please delete this thread. I promised Mark Shay I would have this thread deleted after I received my money back or a motor.
Well today I got a motor.
If I could go back... and have never seen his ad... or have any dealing with this guy... I would do so in a NEW YORK MINUTE. But I can't.
This was the biggest P-I-T-A online transaction I have had after years of trading.
In any case this is behind me. Unfortunately, I'll never forget this guy and El Paso, Texas.
I'll NEVER send a money order again.
So... Mr. Moderator... please delete this thread. I promised Mark Shay I would have this thread deleted after I received my money back or a motor.
Well today I got a motor.
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RE: Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
ORIGINAL: Falcon_az
Mark Shay requested I remove this post. I told him I would do so... only after I received my money back or the motor I bought from him. Well... today I received a motor from him.
If I could go back... and have never seen his ad... or have any dealing with this guy... I would do so in a NEW YORK MINUTE. But I can't.
This was the biggest P-I-T-A online transaction I have had after years of trading.
In any case this is behind me. Unfortunately, I'll never forget this guy and El Paso, Texas.
I'll NEVER send a money order again.
So... Mr. Moderator... please delete this thread. I promised Mark Shay I would have this thread deleted after I received my money back or a motor.
Well today I got a motor.
Mark Shay requested I remove this post. I told him I would do so... only after I received my money back or the motor I bought from him. Well... today I received a motor from him.
If I could go back... and have never seen his ad... or have any dealing with this guy... I would do so in a NEW YORK MINUTE. But I can't.
This was the biggest P-I-T-A online transaction I have had after years of trading.
In any case this is behind me. Unfortunately, I'll never forget this guy and El Paso, Texas.
I'll NEVER send a money order again.
So... Mr. Moderator... please delete this thread. I promised Mark Shay I would have this thread deleted after I received my money back or a motor.
Well today I got a motor.
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RE: Fraud Alert - Mark Shay or Sgt Shay
ORIGINAL: schoeps80
if i got scammed by this guy i would ship him a donation of ricen laced crap parts and see how he does with those [img][/img]
if i got scammed by this guy i would ship him a donation of ricen laced crap parts and see how he does with those [img][/img]
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Mark Shay requested I remove this post. I told him I would do so... only after I received my money back or the motor I bought from him. Well... today I received a motor from him.
.......
So... Mr. Moderator... please delete this thread. I promised Mark Shay I would have this thread deleted after I received my money back or a motor.
Well today I got a motor.
Mark Shay requested I remove this post. I told him I would do so... only after I received my money back or the motor I bought from him. Well... today I received a motor from him.
.......
So... Mr. Moderator... please delete this thread. I promised Mark Shay I would have this thread deleted after I received my money back or a motor.
Well today I got a motor.
Sounds like this guy needs to make restitution with a lot of other folks before the thread gets removed.