Gas for RC use & general trasportation
07-17-2013, 06:10 AM
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Gas for RC use & general trasportation
Two important elements of the U.S. oil export equation have changed in the past few years. First, exporting U.S. crude oil has become economically attractive to the energy industry. Crude oil exports have grown from next to nothing in 2007 to around one hundred thousand barrels per day in March 2013, all of which went to Canada. Second, the United States has become one of the world's largest gross exporters of refined oil products, such as gasoline and diesel. Unlike crude oil, which is unprocessed, oil that has been refined can be exported freely under U.S. law. Roughly three million barrels per day of refined oil products were exported in December 2012, a major increase from prior decades. Until 2011, the United States had not been a consistent net exporter of oil products since 1949. No wonder our gas prices are high here in the USA. All that needs to be done is lower the price here for us...we would then have money to buy...and that would provide more jobs here.
07-17-2013, 10:23 AM
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You mean if we just kept our own oil instead of sending our money overseas to buy theirs we could better the economy. Now you are just trying to make sense which we all know nobody in the capital has that ability. lol.
07-17-2013, 06:19 PM
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Anyone remeber ethyl? There is still a ma and pa filling station here that has the leaded alcohol free high octane fuel for recreation and off road, the thread starter tiltle had me interested until the politics monster showed up.
anyhow I've heard the recreation fuel make our older vintage gas engines run like they should.
anyhow I've heard the recreation fuel make our older vintage gas engines run like they should.
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ORIGINAL: captinjohn
Two important elements of the U.S. oil export equation have changed in the past few years. First, exporting U.S. crude oil has become economically attractive to the energy industry. Crude oil exports have grown from next to nothing in 2007 to around one hundred thousand barrels per day in March 2013, all of which went to Canada. Second, the United States has become one of the world's largest gross exporters of refined oil products, such as gasoline and diesel. Unlike crude oil, which is unprocessed, oil that has been refined can be exported freely under U.S. law. Roughly three million barrels per day of refined oil products were exported in December 2012, a major increase from prior decades. Until 2011, the United States had not been a consistent net exporter of oil products since 1949. No wonder our gas prices are high here in the USA. All that needs to be done is lower the price here for us...we would then have money to buy...and that would provide more jobs here.
Two important elements of the U.S. oil export equation have changed in the past few years. First, exporting U.S. crude oil has become economically attractive to the energy industry. Crude oil exports have grown from next to nothing in 2007 to around one hundred thousand barrels per day in March 2013, all of which went to Canada. Second, the United States has become one of the world's largest gross exporters of refined oil products, such as gasoline and diesel. Unlike crude oil, which is unprocessed, oil that has been refined can be exported freely under U.S. law. Roughly three million barrels per day of refined oil products were exported in December 2012, a major increase from prior decades. Until 2011, the United States had not been a consistent net exporter of oil products since 1949. No wonder our gas prices are high here in the USA. All that needs to be done is lower the price here for us...we would then have money to buy...and that would provide more jobs here.
In Aust at the moment we are paying AUD$1.50 ltr, that works out to aprox US$5.90 usg, I don't know what you are paying at the moment.
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07-17-2013, 10:01 PM
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Seems like from my Bultaco motorcycle racing days that the ethyl leaded gas fouled plugs like crazy.
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Anyone remeber ethyl? There is still a ma and pa filling station here that has the leaded alcohol free high octane fuel for recreation and off road, the thread starter tiltle had me interested until the politics monster showed up.
anyhow I've heard the recreation fuel make our older vintage gas engines run like they should.
Anyone remeber ethyl? There is still a ma and pa filling station here that has the leaded alcohol free high octane fuel for recreation and off road, the thread starter tiltle had me interested until the politics monster showed up.
anyhow I've heard the recreation fuel make our older vintage gas engines run like they should.
07-18-2013, 08:10 AM
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RE: Gas for RC use & general trasportation
ORIGINAL: captinjohn
Two important elements of the U.S. oil export equation have changed in the past few years. First, exporting U.S. crude oil has become economically attractive to the energy industry. Crude oil exports have grown from next to nothing in 2007 to around one hundred thousand barrels per day in March 2013, all of which went to Canada. Second, the United States has become one of the world's largest gross exporters of refined oil products, such as gasoline and diesel. Unlike crude oil, which is unprocessed, oil that has been refined can be exported freely under U.S. law. Roughly three million barrels per day of refined oil products were exported in December 2012, a major increase from prior decades. Until 2011, the United States had not been a consistent net exporter of oil products since 1949. No wonder our gas prices are high here in the USA. All that needs to be done is lower the price here for us...we would then have money to buy...and that would provide more jobs here.
Two important elements of the U.S. oil export equation have changed in the past few years. First, exporting U.S. crude oil has become economically attractive to the energy industry. Crude oil exports have grown from next to nothing in 2007 to around one hundred thousand barrels per day in March 2013, all of which went to Canada. Second, the United States has become one of the world's largest gross exporters of refined oil products, such as gasoline and diesel. Unlike crude oil, which is unprocessed, oil that has been refined can be exported freely under U.S. law. Roughly three million barrels per day of refined oil products were exported in December 2012, a major increase from prior decades. Until 2011, the United States had not been a consistent net exporter of oil products since 1949. No wonder our gas prices are high here in the USA. All that needs to be done is lower the price here for us...we would then have money to buy...and that would provide more jobs here.
It was the 1970s, and with the Arab oil embargo a fresh memory and fears that domestic drilling had peaked, Congress instituted fuel-economy standards for cars, an energy-conservation program for consumer products and the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. It also banned all exports of U.S. oil except for small amounts to Canada.
There is a growing movement to lift the ban on oil exports. You can read all about it and the reasons why here:
[link]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-17/lift-the-ban-on-u-s-oil-exports.html[/link]
The US exported 2.6 million barrels of refined petroleum products in 2012. This was an increase from 1.2 million barrels in 2011. The assumption is that this was all gasoline. Wrong! It was mostly heating oil and petrochemical feedstocks. Again, most of these exports went to Canada. As a point of reference, the US produced a total of 17.9 million barrels of refined products in 2012.
[link]http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mtpexus2&f=a[/link]
[link]http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_SUM_SND_A_EPP2_MBBLPD_A_CUR.htm[/link]
Gas prices in the US are the lowest of any industrialized country with the exception of Venezuela, and we know what a mess that country is in. Gas prices are what they are due to supply and demand. There is only so much refining capacity in this country and the prospects of additional refining capacity coming on line soon is virtually nil. It seems that the oil companies would rather invest their money in exploration and extraction. That is the supply side of the equation. The demand side is fueled by all of us. Fortunately, the demand for gasoline has decreased somewhat in recent years due to energy conservation movements and higher mileage standards. However as long as we continue to drive our SUV's and pickups we will have to pay for it at the gas pump.
John, who would you suggest should lower the price of gasoline? The government? Are you advocating wage and price controls? We saw how well that worked when Nixon tried it. The producers? Why should they? They will charge whatever the public is willing to pay. When demand for gasoline goes down, prices will follow.
We all want less government involvement in our affairs until it hits us in the pocketbook. I guess it all depends on whose ox is being gored.
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07-18-2013, 09:19 PM
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Look who has complaint from gas prices.We here pay about 9,75 $ per gallon .Andddd also our paychecks give as half of yours.Thank your gov.instead whining.
07-19-2013, 06:48 PM
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ORIGINAL: azalner
This is the most misleading and inaccurate post that I have ever seen in these forums and the conclusion is equally bizzare. Let's break this down. True, exporting of U.S. crude has become economically attractive. However, the last time serious talk about exporting oil was heard in Washington, the Soviet Union still loomed, the Reagan Revolution had yet to take place and the National Basketball Association had an equitable distribution of talent.
It was the 1970s, and with the Arab oil embargo a fresh memory and fears that domestic drilling had peaked, Congress instituted fuel-economy standards for cars, an energy-conservation program for consumer products and the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. It also banned all exports of U.S. oil except for small amounts to Canada.
There is a growing movement to lift the ban on oil exports. You can read all about it and the reasons why here:
[link]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-17/lift-the-ban-on-u-s-oil-exports.html[/link]
The US exported 2.6 million barrels of refined petroleum products in 2012. This was an increase from 1.2 million barrels in 2011. The assumption is that this was all gasoline. Wrong! It was mostly heating oil and petrochemical feedstocks. Again, most of these exports went to Canada. As a point of reference, the US produced a total of 17.9 million barrels of refined products in 2012.
[link]http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mtpexus2&f=a[/link]
[link]http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_SUM_SND_A_EPP2_MBBLPD_A_CUR.htm[/link]
Gas prices in the US are the lowest of any industrialized country with the exception of Venezuela, and we know what a mess that country is in. Gas prices are what they are due to supply and demand. There is only so much refining capacity in this country and the prospects of additional refining capacity coming on line soon is virtually nil. It seems that the oil companies would rather invest their money in exploration and extraction. That is the supply side of the equation. The demand side is fueled by all of us. Fortunately, the demand for gasoline has decreased somewhat in recent years due to energy conservation movements and higher mileage standards. However as long as we continue to drive our SUV's and pickups we will have to pay for it at the gas pump.
John, who would you suggest should lower the price of gasoline? The government? Are you advocating wage and price controls? We saw how well that worked when Nixon tried it. The producers? Why should they? They will charge whatever the public is willing to pay. When demand for gasoline goes down, prices will follow.
We all want less government involvement in our affairs until it hits us in the pocketbook. I guess it all depends on whose ox is being gored.
BertZ
ORIGINAL: captinjohn
Two important elements of the U.S. oil export equation have changed in the past few years. First, exporting U.S. crude oil has become economically attractive to the energy industry. Crude oil exports have grown from next to nothing in 2007 to around one hundred thousand barrels per day in March 2013, all of which went to Canada. Second, the United States has become one of the world's largest gross exporters of refined oil products, such as gasoline and diesel. Unlike crude oil, which is unprocessed, oil that has been refined can be exported freely under U.S. law. Roughly three million barrels per day of refined oil products were exported in December 2012, a major increase from prior decades. Until 2011, the United States had not been a consistent net exporter of oil products since 1949. No wonder our gas prices are high here in the USA. All that needs to be done is lower the price here for us...we would then have money to buy...and that would provide more jobs here.
Two important elements of the U.S. oil export equation have changed in the past few years. First, exporting U.S. crude oil has become economically attractive to the energy industry. Crude oil exports have grown from next to nothing in 2007 to around one hundred thousand barrels per day in March 2013, all of which went to Canada. Second, the United States has become one of the world's largest gross exporters of refined oil products, such as gasoline and diesel. Unlike crude oil, which is unprocessed, oil that has been refined can be exported freely under U.S. law. Roughly three million barrels per day of refined oil products were exported in December 2012, a major increase from prior decades. Until 2011, the United States had not been a consistent net exporter of oil products since 1949. No wonder our gas prices are high here in the USA. All that needs to be done is lower the price here for us...we would then have money to buy...and that would provide more jobs here.
It was the 1970s, and with the Arab oil embargo a fresh memory and fears that domestic drilling had peaked, Congress instituted fuel-economy standards for cars, an energy-conservation program for consumer products and the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. It also banned all exports of U.S. oil except for small amounts to Canada.
There is a growing movement to lift the ban on oil exports. You can read all about it and the reasons why here:
[link]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-17/lift-the-ban-on-u-s-oil-exports.html[/link]
The US exported 2.6 million barrels of refined petroleum products in 2012. This was an increase from 1.2 million barrels in 2011. The assumption is that this was all gasoline. Wrong! It was mostly heating oil and petrochemical feedstocks. Again, most of these exports went to Canada. As a point of reference, the US produced a total of 17.9 million barrels of refined products in 2012.
[link]http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mtpexus2&f=a[/link]
[link]http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_SUM_SND_A_EPP2_MBBLPD_A_CUR.htm[/link]
Gas prices in the US are the lowest of any industrialized country with the exception of Venezuela, and we know what a mess that country is in. Gas prices are what they are due to supply and demand. There is only so much refining capacity in this country and the prospects of additional refining capacity coming on line soon is virtually nil. It seems that the oil companies would rather invest their money in exploration and extraction. That is the supply side of the equation. The demand side is fueled by all of us. Fortunately, the demand for gasoline has decreased somewhat in recent years due to energy conservation movements and higher mileage standards. However as long as we continue to drive our SUV's and pickups we will have to pay for it at the gas pump.
John, who would you suggest should lower the price of gasoline? The government? Are you advocating wage and price controls? We saw how well that worked when Nixon tried it. The producers? Why should they? They will charge whatever the public is willing to pay. When demand for gasoline goes down, prices will follow.
We all want less government involvement in our affairs until it hits us in the pocketbook. I guess it all depends on whose ox is being gored.
BertZ
