retransit

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And Jim, this is the way I balanced the Fleet, hanging from a hook above my garage door.

By the way, my Fleet is down for engine maintenance. Had to send it to BJ's Model Engine Service for new bearings. It should eat up at least $300, probably more.

Bob

Jb Stearman

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Bob,

Just checked the PC for your reply.It's after 1:am here. I will go through the numbers again in the morning daylight hours and use your examples for CG. I did not build the model. It was given to me by a friend who got it from a friend who acquired it from a guy in West Virginia that built it from Concept plans years ago. All the measurements I took when restoring it equate to those on the plans. There is a picture of it in My Gallery of how it looked when I got it, red and yellow and a mess. I will get back to you soon.
Maybe you could do a fund raiser to help pay for your engine overhaul. I'll throw in a couple bucks.

Thanks much for your help,

Jim

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It all evens out. Through a YouTube video I was able to repair the AC/heater control module on my wife's car that usually costs over $300 a pop to replace. The fix cost me nothing, so I figure I'm even.

Bob

Kinner

GM auto?

retransit

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Correct, and specifically a Malibu (1998-2004). I understand this also applies to the Impala and maybe the other GM chassis clones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXx21L6Kixw

Bob

Mein Duff

As to balancing the 1/4 scale Fleet... I emailed Concept Fleet a few years ago. He told me the CG was 1" in front of rear Cabane mount under top wing.

retransit

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Eric, I'm going by the plans. If the cabanes are installed as drawn on the plans, the rear cabane bolt centerline is 3/16" forward of the aft CG limit and 13/16" behind the forward CG limit. The CG range is 1", so placing it 1" forward of the rear cabane bolt centerline will give you aircraft balancing outside the forward CG limit by 3/16".

By the way, does anyone need a "Fleet Brotherhood" number?

Bob

Jb Stearman

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Bob, slight error in my numbers in post #674. I took a ruler and remeasured the distances on the plan and wing to make sure they were the same. So, the top wing is located correctly according to the plans
The 6" distance from LE to rear bolt center, top wing should have been 7"which now makes sense to me.The pucker factor has returned to normal and I can get on with this balancing act.

Jim


I cut it off three times and it is still to short!!!

retransit

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Whew, that was close!

Bob

smkrcflyer

Bob,
How did your Fleet balance with the radial on it? Did you have to add tail weight?

retransit

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No weight added. I just moved some batteries around.

Bob

Jb Stearman

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Bob,

Finally got the N2Y-1 balanced where it should be, half way between the forward and aft CG range. Interestingly, I had to add 12 0z. to the nose. Used the 3oz. sticks and screwed them to the fire wall. Quarter scale rudder and elevator servos under the rear cockpit where the origional builder had them. US 35 cc for power. Sounds like "old school" building when thing were still simple.

Jim

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Glad to hear you've had success.

My servos are in the rear of the aircraft and a 4300 mah 4-"D" cell battery pack for the on-board glow driver along with the Rx battery, are located under the rear cockpit floor.

Whatever it takes.

Bob

JGrc

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Hi All,

my 1/4 scale Fleet just had a ugly mishap and needs the fuse and one bottom wing to be rebuilt. Does anyone know where I can get a set of plans?

knucklebutt

I actually Have an old set for the Fleet I am flying now, plus a complete set in a new kit. Sure something can be worked out

Denis

JGrc

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OK, I will PM

Jose G.

mrdhud

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Hello all,
I'm looking for a dummy engine for my 1/4 scale Fleet not having any luck finding any.
Thanks
Dan

Jaybird

There isn't one of the Kinner engine found on most Fleets. A few have made their own somewhere in this thread from scratch. Others have used the Williams Brothers individual Wright cylinders and turned them around from standard (Kinner pushrods are behind the cylinder) and those look pretty close. The Kinner cylinders are quite tall and narrow compared the the Wright cylinder.

My 1/6 scale Fleet was bult by onother modeler and has the Wright cylinders with the pushrods in front.

Others may know more or have other ideas.

Jaybird

Kinner

Check my reply on Wiess 1/3 scale.

You can convert to a Model 7G that had a inline inverted engine.

Ray W.

mrdhud

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Thanks guys,
I was able to find 4 individual Williams Brothers cylinders from Graves’s hobbies. With the carb from the G38 sticking out of the cowl that’s all I may be able to use. Has any one found an engine big enough to fly the Fleet and have every thing fit inside the cowl?

knucklebutt

I made the "Kinner" Cylinders per the plans and use the G-38, they all fit just fine

mrdhud

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knucklebutt,
Your Fleet looks great do you have any pictures showing how you mounted your dummy cylinders. I'm in the process of recovering mine it's covered with some kind of fabric and painted with latex. The plane is in need of some repair work so I thought this would be a good time to recover and paint.
Thanks

dabrown

Mine has a Quadra 35, but the carb sticks out too. I was able to have enough of the cowl left to be able to attach all 5 cylinders. The attachment of the bottom cylinders is marginally secure, but they're still attached...




Dave

knucklebutt

Daves is pretty much the same as mine except he is using the fiberglass cowl I used the balsa block method. I'll see if I can get some close up photos in the next day or so as mine is packed in my trailer


Denis

retransit

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Love that shade of green.