ORIGINAL: drac1


If you think it's so bad, why do you keep coming back?

ORIGINAL: collector1231



Please quit being a smart mouth. Imagine if you had JohnP2's job. thousands of terrabytes of data with bank accounts, credit card numbers, and much. much more. It is hard to protect that stuff with so many cyber attacks these days. He can never have a ''read only'' mode, if even, heck, the power goes out!

ORIGINAL: JohnP2



Hi all,

I'm posting this in the General Car forum so forgive me, but this whom I dialogue with most on this forum. Foxy, this is NO WAY inteded toward you as I understand you have no control and I think you are a top-notch moderator.

For anyone that cares, while I don't know RC Cars, I DO know Internet software such as this. I'm starting to wonder if this is some guy in his garage. I take pages that input financial data down 2-3 times per week and never allow a blip in the system. Whomever is operating this is just being lazy. If this gets me banished from this forum - oh well. At least I had my say. ;-)

If you are responsible to this site and are reading this, certainly you can divert traffic to another server. If you only have one web server, then we are in trouble (you know as well as I dobacking is up one thing. estoring is a whole other issue). There are only a few forms that require posting, so if you are on one server and doing somethig with your db, keep those pages up and create a set of tables and update prior to going live.

I love this forum very much - because of the people on here. However, I encourage the decision makers to look at other software and.or maintenance team once existing contracts expire...because this extremely poor software maintenance.

ORIGINAL: drac1
Ooooh. I'm not the one bagging RCU. Who cares what JohnP2's job is. Or yours for that matter. If all you can do is critisise, then don't bother.

ORIGINAL: JohnP2

Ha. You guys who want to flame me have at it - but I DO know what I'm talking about here, and I fully understand what is involved with this. At the end of the day, this system is very simplistic. If you think an Internet forum is more complex than financial software, then you've lost all credibility to even discuss this with me. Comments like ''well, why don't you fix it.'' or ''if you don't like it then leave''.... .takes nothing away from the fact that it's chock full of bugs. My intent is to edify those who perhaps are not familiar with Internet software this move is ANYTHING but ''legendary'' in IT. Are you serious? You might want to tap the brakes a little. Not to get ''old guy syndrome'' but in college when we wrote apps using the Name/Finger protocol to be the first to get our university ''online'' for the first time....THAT was legendary. I've moved multiple systems MUCH larger than this to new data centers 4-5 times over in my career and we were offline no more than one hour. Being in IT for 20+ years...yeah, I fully realize there are going to be bugs. In fact, I'm not complaining about the bugs, but instead the approach taken. If there is a new maintenance team trying to fix all the old problems - great. But to call this move ''legendary'' is bordering on ridiculous. If your feelings got hurt, I apologize - but I know what I know.

For those that doubt me: think of the last time an Internet software you use was offline (which this essentially was) for three days. If this was the first time it happened, that is one thing - but it's not. It just doesn't happen (often) with today's technology. I enjoy this forum as much as anyone on here....and consequently have no problem speaking up when I see this becomes tiresome.

ORIGINAL: 1QwkSport2.5r

frets24 - you said it better than I did, and could have. There is going on behind the scenes than a lot of people realize.

Ever try copying a 4GB SD card full of pics and vids over to your computer? How long did it take? Now imagine copying something that's easily 1000 times the size of that 4gb SD card (hell, it's probably 10,000 times bigger)... Add in the risk of file corruption?

Hats off to the RCU IT team!

ORIGINAL: JohnP2

Ha. You guys who want to flame me have at it - but I DO know what I'm talking about here, and I fully understand what is involved with this. At the end of the day, this system is very simplistic. If you think an Internet forum is more complex than financial software, then you've lost all credibility to even discuss this with me. Comments like ''well, why don't you fix it.'' or ''if you don't like it then leave''.... .takes nothing away from the fact that it's chock full of bugs. My intent is to edify those who perhaps are not familiar with Internet software this move is ANYTHING but ''legendary'' in IT. Are you serious? You might want to tap the brakes a little. Not to get ''old guy syndrome'' but in college when we wrote apps using the Name/Finger protocol to be the first to get our university ''online'' for the first time....THAT was legendary. I've moved multiple systems MUCH larger than this to new data centers 4-5 times over in my career and we were offline no more than one hour. Being in IT for 20+ years...yeah, I fully realize there are going to be bugs. In fact, I'm not complaining about the bugs, but instead the approach taken. If there is a new maintenance team trying to fix all the old problems - great. But to call this move ''legendary'' is bordering on ridiculous. If your feelings got hurt, I apologize - but I know what I know.

For those that doubt me: think of the last time an Internet software you use was offline (which this essentially was) for three days. If this was the first time it happened, that is one thing - but it's not. It just doesn't happen (often) with today's technology. I enjoy this forum as much as anyone on here....and consequently have no problem speaking up when I see this becomes tiresome.

ORIGINAL: JohnP2

Ha. You guys who want to flame me have at it - but I DO know what I'm talking about here, and I fully understand what is involved with this. At the end of the day, this system is very simplistic. If you think an Internet forum is more complex than financial software, then you've lost all credibility to even discuss this with me. Comments like ''well, why don't you fix it.'' or ''if you don't like it then leave''.... .takes nothing away from the fact that it's chock full of bugs. My intent is to edify those who perhaps are not familiar with Internet software this move is ANYTHING but ''legendary'' in IT. Are you serious? You might want to tap the brakes a little. Not to get ''old guy syndrome'' but in college when we wrote apps using the Name/Finger protocol to be the first to get our university ''online'' for the first time....THAT was legendary. I've moved multiple systems MUCH larger than this to new data centers 4-5 times over in my career and we were offline no more than one hour. Being in IT for 20+ years...yeah, I fully realize there are going to be bugs. In fact, I'm not complaining about the bugs, but instead the approach taken. If there is a new maintenance team trying to fix all the old problems - great. But to call this move ''legendary'' is bordering on ridiculous. If your feelings got hurt, I apologize - but I know what I know.

For those that doubt me: think of the last time an Internet software you use was offline (which this essentially was) for three days. If this was the first time it happened, that is one thing - but it's not. It just doesn't happen (often) with today's technology. I enjoy this forum as much as anyone on here....and consequently have no problem speaking up when I see this becomes tiresome.

ORIGINAL: t-max97


You sure about that? this site is pretty massive, think about all the posts, pictures, videos, links ect over the last 12 years that have to be moved.

ORIGINAL: Airplanes400

Then I shouldn't criticize your spelling either? [X(]

ORIGINAL: t-max97


You sure about that? this site is pretty massive, think about all the posts, pictures, videos, links ect over the last 12 years that have to be moved.

ORIGINAL: t-max97


You sure about that? this site is pretty massive, think about all the posts, pictures, videos, links ect over the last 12 years that have to be moved.

ORIGINAL: JohnP2

Ha. You guys who want to flame me have at it - but I DO know what I'm talking about here, and I fully understand what is involved with this. At the end of the day, this system is very simplistic. If you think an Internet forum is more complex than financial software, then you've lost all credibility to even discuss this with me. Comments like ''well, why don't you fix it.'' or ''if you don't like it then leave''.... .takes nothing away from the fact that it's chock full of bugs. My intent is to edify those who perhaps are not familiar with Internet software this move is ANYTHING but ''legendary'' in IT. Are you serious? You might want to tap the brakes a little. Not to get ''old guy syndrome'' but in college when we wrote apps using the Name/Finger protocol to be the first to get our university ''online'' for the first time....THAT was legendary. I've moved multiple systems MUCH larger than this to new data centers 4-5 times over in my career and we were offline no more than one hour. Being in IT for 20+ years...yeah, I fully realize there are going to be bugs. In fact, I'm not complaining about the bugs, but instead the approach taken. If there is a new maintenance team trying to fix all the old problems - great. But to call this move ''legendary'' is bordering on ridiculous. If your feelings got hurt, I apologize - but I know what I know.

For those that doubt me: think of the last time an Internet software you use was offline (which this essentially was) for three days. If this was the first time it happened, that is one thing - but it's not. It just doesn't happen (often) with today's technology. I enjoy this forum as much as anyone on here....and consequently have no problem speaking up when I see this becomes tiresome.

ORIGINAL: JohnP2



Yes. I am more than sure about that. Currently we have no purge thresholds and over 750 databases (yes they are normalized). Configuration data probably consumes 2/3 of that with ~ 3-4 billion records. Transactional data probably 5 billion records. If anyone wants to know specific techinical information, PM me. I will provide my phone number and walk you through everything in detail (but unless you are a geek such as myself you'll be bored to tears. Regardless, the offer is THERE).

Regardless of pay, staff count, etc. I stand by my statement that going off-line for 3 days is poor (just like the stabillity of this software).

To that end - I'll put my money where my mouth is. Due to the instability of this software and guys like Drac1 (he is just an example of someone who never posts unless it is to call someone out) it's now lost one more member. Guys like Neal might have the stomach to fight with guys such as this - but I don't. It's just not worth my time. Of course 99% of the members who leave (and you should request to see those stats) won't bother telling you WHY they are leaving -
This was a great forum and still is to a degree. However unstable software (and guys like DRAC1) make it not even worth the effort. A year from now when folks wonder why this forum has waned so much he is a perfect reason. Good luck with it all. ;-)

1QwkSport2.5r - I think I was unfair with you in a recent post and want to aplogize for that. I hope you forgive me. I probably read it one way that meant another, but even if that is not the case I should not have lashed out at you like that. Again, I'm sorry as that is not my demeanor.

Finally, I once owned an moderated a forum with as much traffic as this...and I STILL say JF (Foxy) is the best moderator I've seen - so ya'll be cool to him.

ORIGINAL: drac1

Well if that's all you can come up with, why not I suppose. Just because you do things a certain way in the US, doesn't make it the only way. You spell your way we spell ours.

And don't forget. Whatever happens, we will always be one day ahead of you.

ORIGINAL: Foxy

I dare say I am one of the more experienced IT professionals on this site, I have 24 years actual on the job experience, and currently consult on applications deployment strategies to one of the biggest companies in the world, but in the past I've worked on Bank data migrations as well as many much larger application migrations. You could even say that this kind of problem that RCU is facing is in fact my specialty.Having said that, I'm not going to say that the guys at IB (and yes I know a lot of the backoffice story around here too) have always displayed total competence and good procedures, HOWEVER... I have to admit that the enormity of this type of migration is of galactic proportions. Lest we forget, a few billion bank records does not even equate to the byte count of just the posts here on rcu, let alone the images, which would equate to TRILLIONS of bank records. Then there's the nature of the data, posts written in the different forum 'languages' - bbcode, html and the wysiwyg interface, all of which must be migrated to a single language, together with image conversion to conform to new site rules, changes in tags such as 'link' to 'url', finding a way to deal with corrupt posts, the number of which cannot be known, and finding a way for the migration process not to stop dead when it encounters data integrity issues, and finally migrating the actual configuration of the site for every user, every vendor, every moderator, every forum, etc.Then there's the thing about downtime... John, how exactly do you propose to move a bucket of water out from under one tap, place it under another, with both taps running, without losing any water. It is of course impossible, so at some point the tap must be turned off. An intermediary database could be used and then merged but it would have to have an identical schema to the main database and also somehow be compatible with both svhemas, it just isn't feasible for a deployment of this size. Much better a week of downtime than 2 weeks of extra work to prevent downtime. Yes, forums are simple, but this isn't just any forum...

ORIGINAL: Foxy

I dare say I am one of the more experienced IT professionals on this site, I have 24 years actual on the job experience, and currently consult on applications deployment strategies to one of the biggest companies in the world, but in the past I've worked on Bank data migrations as well as many much larger application migrations. You could even say that this kind of problem that RCU is facing is in fact my specialty.Having said that, I'm not going to say that the guys at IB (and yes I know a lot of the backoffice story around here too) have always displayed total competence and good procedures, HOWEVER... I have to admit that the enormity of this type of migration is of galactic proportions. Lest we forget, a few billion bank records does not even equate to the byte count of just the posts here on rcu, let alone the images, which would equate to TRILLIONS of bank records. Then there's the nature of the data, posts written in the different forum 'languages' - bbcode, html and the wysiwyg interface, all of which must be migrated to a single language, together with image conversion to conform to new site rules, changes in tags such as 'link' to 'url', finding a way to deal with corrupt posts, the number of which cannot be known, and finding a way for the migration process not to stop dead when it encounters data integrity issues, and finally migrating the actual configuration of the site for every user, every vendor, every moderator, every forum, etc.Then there's the thing about downtime... John, how exactly do you propose to move a bucket of water out from under one tap, place it under another, with both taps running, without losing any water. It is of course impossible, so at some point the tap must be turned off. An intermediary database could be used and then merged but it would have to have an identical schema to the main database and also somehow be compatible with both svhemas, it just isn't feasible for a deployment of this size. Much better a week of downtime than 2 weeks of extra work to prevent downtime. Yes, forums are simple, but this isn't just any forum...

ORIGINAL: Foxy

I dare say I am one of the more experienced IT professionals on this site, I have 24 years actual on the job experience, and currently consult on applications deployment strategies to one of the biggest companies in the world, but in the past I've worked on Bank data migrations as well as many much larger application migrations. You could even say that this kind of problem that RCU is facing is in fact my specialty.Having said that, I'm not going to say that the guys at IB (and yes I know a lot of the backoffice story around here too) have always displayed total competence and good procedures, HOWEVER... I have to admit that the enormity of this type of migration is of galactic proportions. Lest we forget, a few billion bank records does not even equate to the byte count of just the posts here on rcu, let alone the images, which would equate to TRILLIONS of bank records. Then there's the nature of the data, posts written in the different forum 'languages' - bbcode, html and the wysiwyg interface, all of which must be migrated to a single language, together with image conversion to conform to new site rules, changes in tags such as 'link' to 'url', finding a way to deal with corrupt posts, the number of which cannot be known, and finding a way for the migration process not to stop dead when it encounters data integrity issues, and finally migrating the actual configuration of the site for every user, every vendor, every moderator, every forum, etc.Then there's the thing about downtime... John, how exactly do you propose to move a bucket of water out from under one tap, place it under another, with both taps running, without losing any water. � It is of course impossible, � so at some point the tap must be turned off. An intermediary database could be used and then merged but it would have to have an identical schema to the main database and also somehow be compatible with both svhemas, it just isn't feasible for a deployment of this size. Much better a week of downtime than 2 weeks of extra work to prevent downtime. Yes, forums are simple, but this isn't just any forum...

ORIGINAL: phmaximus


but a simple striped grub screw keeps u suck for days???? go figure

seriously did RCU criticize you when u had problems working out a basic starterbox?
striped tower screw? use of locktight?
No we dident. why... because its FN rude, that's why

im very doubtfull u can come up with a better idea for RCU.
merging to vbullition is a step in the right direction and is there idea.

what's yours?