New Biplane by Bryan Hebert - Alferma
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Hi Guys,
I took A video of some flight testing being done By Brett Wickizer this weekend this is flight 4 of his testing
If the wings didn`t break or come off after he abused ,, flew it on the first three flights, I think it will survive normal flying
Enjoy!
here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ozvKUqwwQ
I took A video of some flight testing being done By Brett Wickizer this weekend this is flight 4 of his testing
If the wings didn`t break or come off after he abused ,, flew it on the first three flights, I think it will survive normal flying
Enjoy!
here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ozvKUqwwQ
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Very nice to watch. The Alferma seems to present very well. And its a YS! What version of Hyde mount was being used Bryan?
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Hi Guys,
I took A video of some flight testing being done By Brett Wickizer this weekend this is flight 4 of his testing
If the wings didn`t break or come off after he abused ,, flew it on the first three flights, I think it will survive normal flying
Enjoy!
here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ozvKUqwwQ
Hi Guys,
I took A video of some flight testing being done By Brett Wickizer this weekend this is flight 4 of his testing
If the wings didn`t break or come off after he abused ,, flew it on the first three flights, I think it will survive normal flying
Enjoy!
here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ozvKUqwwQ
I think that the maneuver no. P-13.10 was wrong.
It should be a Pull-Push-Pull Humpty-Bump not a Pull-Pull-Pull Humpty-Bump.
Am I right?
Best regards,
Isaac Najary
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Thanks Alejandro,
Keith, I`m using a Custom Mount Merle made for me for My Shark Bipe. It`s a micro mount that weighs 70 grams.
It`s amazingly small. But the 1.75 runs so smooth it`s no problem swinging the APC 20.5-10.
Also you can`t deny the nice tone from that YS with Brett working the thottle, it`s almost like Music to the ears
I swear with that prop he never went over half throttle just a awesome power curve, and mid range power we always wanted.
in combo with the Bipe Well, you see the results
Now for a 120 sized Ys powerd Alferma!
Bryan
Keith, I`m using a Custom Mount Merle made for me for My Shark Bipe. It`s a micro mount that weighs 70 grams.
It`s amazingly small. But the 1.75 runs so smooth it`s no problem swinging the APC 20.5-10.
Also you can`t deny the nice tone from that YS with Brett working the thottle, it`s almost like Music to the ears
I swear with that prop he never went over half throttle just a awesome power curve, and mid range power we always wanted.
in combo with the Bipe Well, you see the results
Now for a 120 sized Ys powerd Alferma!
Bryan
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Bryan,
I couldnt agree more on the comment you mentioned about the tone of the YS in the air- the same though crossed my mind yesterday! It got me to thinking.... I wonder if Brett could play us all some Mozart if he were given control of an orchestra of 1.75's!?
Brandon Landry
I couldnt agree more on the comment you mentioned about the tone of the YS in the air- the same though crossed my mind yesterday! It got me to thinking.... I wonder if Brett could play us all some Mozart if he were given control of an orchestra of 1.75's!?
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Here it is Brett, your challenge.
Play we are the champions with a YS motors......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aArS...eature=related starts around 20 seconds in.
Chuck
Play we are the champions with a YS motors......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aArS...eature=related starts around 20 seconds in.
Chuck
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Nice video... liked it very smooth & precise flying. But i need to know why have you made the landing gear retractable? I have seen many F3A biplanes but never seen a retractable... Or just to avoid drag
My question is are retractable allowed in F3A now.
My question is are retractable allowed in F3A now.
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Retracts were never not allowed. Years ago we needed the reduced drag to compensate for less power. With todays models this is not an issue. I believe Bryan's thought process was that with the retracts he wouldn't have that long arm to account for hanging below the airplane when trimming, so the trimming should be much more straight forward and such. I'm sure Bryan will chime in. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
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Retracts were never not allowed. Years ago we needed the reduced drag to compensate for less power. With todays models this is not an issue. I believe Bryan's thought process was that with the retracts he wouldn't have that long arm to account for hanging below the airplane when trimming, so the trimming should be much more straight forward and such. I'm sure Bryan will chime in. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
Arch
Retracts were never not allowed. Years ago we needed the reduced drag to compensate for less power. With todays models this is not an issue. I believe Bryan's thought process was that with the retracts he wouldn't have that long arm to account for hanging below the airplane when trimming, so the trimming should be much more straight forward and such. I'm sure Bryan will chime in. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
Arch
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Arch is on the money I`ve never been a fan of fixed gear, But I do like the ease of transport and have learned to live with them.
I`m a purest at heart my designs are art to me, they all start with inspiration and a philosophy for the patterns they are designed to fly,and end with how well I hit the mark on the total impression I was aiming for.in looks and performance.
I like a challenge. A Bipe is still unproven ground , and as they say the pioneers get the arrows
My Ideas are molded through my experience with competition and the outcome of my other designs. I also take into account the feed back I get from Top pilots like Brett ,Jason, , and even the guys working their way up the heap like Brandon Landry,Brian Stahan and Brian Clemmons.
Some airplanes like the alferma ,are designed for the World class Guys and some are designed for the average guy trying to earn his best score against equal Talent.Brett, Jason, and Andrew really can make anything work all the guys at the top can , I try to shoot for both ends of the expectations ,and thats not a easy task sometimes.
The retracts , Well Im stuborn. But the new Talent Never flew with them ,and Now they think they are all the Rage ,,Just like bell bottoms from the 70`s
But, there is a reason to my madness , and like Scott says really Beauty is in the eye of the creator of the art some like the look some don`t, I love to see them things dissapear as the airplane slips though the takeoff for another flight.
Bryan
I`m a purest at heart my designs are art to me, they all start with inspiration and a philosophy for the patterns they are designed to fly,and end with how well I hit the mark on the total impression I was aiming for.in looks and performance.
I like a challenge. A Bipe is still unproven ground , and as they say the pioneers get the arrows
My Ideas are molded through my experience with competition and the outcome of my other designs. I also take into account the feed back I get from Top pilots like Brett ,Jason, , and even the guys working their way up the heap like Brandon Landry,Brian Stahan and Brian Clemmons.
Some airplanes like the alferma ,are designed for the World class Guys and some are designed for the average guy trying to earn his best score against equal Talent.Brett, Jason, and Andrew really can make anything work all the guys at the top can , I try to shoot for both ends of the expectations ,and thats not a easy task sometimes.
The retracts , Well Im stuborn. But the new Talent Never flew with them ,and Now they think they are all the Rage ,,Just like bell bottoms from the 70`s
But, there is a reason to my madness , and like Scott says really Beauty is in the eye of the creator of the art some like the look some don`t, I love to see them things dissapear as the airplane slips though the takeoff for another flight.
Bryan
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Retracts were never not allowed. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
Arch
Retracts were never not allowed. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
Arch
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Really love this Bipe!
It was great to finally see some footage of the model in flight. Looks awsome!
I can't wait for this model to be available to us "Novice" pattern-folks... I'm looking for a substitute for my trusty ZN Suxess, and the Alferma looks like a great oportunity to update!
Has the model been tested in windy conditions yet? The Suxess, being an older design, really struggles in windy conditions, hence it is not my first weapon of choice for the F3A schedule. Also, it has some wierd couplings (a lot of throttle - aileron mix(...), plenty aileron to rudder mix etc etc). I'm guessing a "new generation" bipe has shaken off most of these "bad habits"?
Audun
It was great to finally see some footage of the model in flight. Looks awsome!
I can't wait for this model to be available to us "Novice" pattern-folks... I'm looking for a substitute for my trusty ZN Suxess, and the Alferma looks like a great oportunity to update!
Has the model been tested in windy conditions yet? The Suxess, being an older design, really struggles in windy conditions, hence it is not my first weapon of choice for the F3A schedule. Also, it has some wierd couplings (a lot of throttle - aileron mix(...), plenty aileron to rudder mix etc etc). I'm guessing a "new generation" bipe has shaken off most of these "bad habits"?
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RE: New Biplane by Bryan Hebert - Alferma
Yeah, but then you lose all of those "cool points" when one leg collapses on landing. . . .
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Plus....it just really looks bad a** to see them suck up into the wing on take-off. You can't deny it!
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Retracts were never not allowed. Years ago we needed the reduced drag to compensate for less power. With todays models this is not an issue. I believe Bryan's thought process was that with the retracts he wouldn't have that long arm to account for hanging below the airplane when trimming, so the trimming should be much more straight forward and such. I'm sure Bryan will chime in. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
Arch
Retracts were never not allowed. Years ago we needed the reduced drag to compensate for less power. With todays models this is not an issue. I believe Bryan's thought process was that with the retracts he wouldn't have that long arm to account for hanging below the airplane when trimming, so the trimming should be much more straight forward and such. I'm sure Bryan will chime in. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
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Retracts may represent a small weight penalty. Also will require newcomers to learn what we long timers have forgotten, almost. Newcomers will need to learn how to operate them reliably for the life of the plane; don't forget a collapsed gear on a landing in AMA still earns zero for the maneuver.
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Retracts were never not allowed. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
Arch
Retracts were never not allowed. With takeoff's and landings not being judged in FAI, it certainly makes sense. Flying off grass with retracts in lower classes can be a much larger headache.
Arch
Not too sure about the weight penalty, Matt. Retract are about an ounce each, with another ounce in the servo. Gear is usually 140~150g plus another 40g for pants. 180g is around 6.5 oz. (Less wheels and axles on each.) Heavier retracts are 1.5oz each, plus another one for servo. Even that is less than a standard set of Bolly Long plus pants by about two ounces. IF you can find a set of Supra's lying around, that is Support structures should be a wash, BTW. Depending on your struts, these numbers go up, but retracts should be lighter either way you go, unless you compare heavy retracts to light fixed. Might be close then.
Seems to me the retracts can be lighter AND more aerodynamic. But the fixed gear LOOKS cool, they all say. I think Bryan Hebert is all over it.
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I used Supra retracts w/titanium struts (from Central Hobbies) on an old ZN Caprice some years back. I think I replaced one strut after approx.90-100 flights. No real issues there!
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RE: New Biplane by Bryan Hebert - Alferma
Here is the new version of the Alferma Proto#2
We test flew it this weekend and there is a Utube vid of the airplane going through the f Pattern for rate setting
Enjoy !
Bryan
We test flew it this weekend and there is a Utube vid of the airplane going through the f Pattern for rate setting
Enjoy !
Bryan