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Old 01-19-2003, 06:25 AM
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AndyF.

Looks like its gonna be a nice one here in Tulsa Sunday, You gonna be able to get yours up in OKC? Mine may get her maiden today....
Old 01-19-2003, 12:20 PM
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Using a Spin Right 4" aluminum spinner from Cermark. About $23.00 plus $2.00 for adapter nut. I also used the spinner that came with Patty and no problem. Have 34 flights on my Patty with about half the flights on each spinner.
Old 01-19-2003, 03:51 PM
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CrazyRay Iam using a brand new os 160 with a 17x8 apc prop. Like I said plane weights 14.2 lbs. I used a scale to check thrust on engine it was producing 16.5 lbs. doing the old stand by test to make sure engine wasnt going to lean out and quit, after starting engine I had a helper pont the nose straight up at full throttle. just for grins he let go and the plane started to climb away. He grabed it and I cut the throttle back we finished the pre flight and took off. plane has a better than 1:1 power to weight ratio. and when enginr is good and broke in I will switch to an 18-10 apc prop that should really help out a lot. As far as a pull pull rudder I dont have any info I used the 2 servo set up. So far I like it.
Old 01-19-2003, 04:17 PM
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Your helper let the plane go with full throttle in the vertical and then grabbed it!

I'm happy you guys fly in Texas.
Old 01-19-2003, 04:31 PM
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rcguy1 I'm glad I'm in Texas too actually everything was in complete control and not as bad as it sounds. and we saw first hand what the vertical capabilities were
Old 01-19-2003, 04:39 PM
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LeeL,

You should try an APC 18X6 prop if you want top performance with your engine. See the posts in rpm data for the 160.

Brian
Old 01-19-2003, 04:42 PM
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Brian thanks for the info after engine is good and broke in I am planning to experiment with different props to see which is best Lee
Old 01-19-2003, 05:48 PM
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LeeL, Thanks for the info. I am shooting for a weight of 13.5lb with half the weight coming from a pull-pull rudder setup. The plane should balance without added lead up front. This one change alone will save 6oz (servo & extensions 2.5oz and lead 3.5oz) The tail wheel rods will also be changed to springs for steering like my Sig 300XS (1 oz). Only 4 oz to go wish me luck!!!!

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Old 01-19-2003, 10:39 PM
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Im joining the Wagstaff gang. Just got mine today. I'm thinking of an OS BGX or a Super Tiger 4500 for the front end. Any thoughts ?

Tom
Old 01-19-2003, 10:45 PM
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Hey Tom,
I think that super tigre would be a beast!! And where you fly at?
Old 01-19-2003, 11:42 PM
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Old 01-20-2003, 01:05 AM
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Old 01-20-2003, 03:15 AM
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Originally posted by 14th_Reaper
AndyF.

Looks like its gonna be a nice one here in Tulsa Sunday, You gonna be able to get yours up in OKC? Mine may get her maiden today....
We had a beautiful day here 64 degrees and winds 10 - 22 MPH so I decided to work in the garage. I am not in any hurry. I want to fly it but I want the conditions to be right.

Maybe next week.

Andy
Old 01-20-2003, 03:39 AM
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HI has anybody flown this plane in a high altitude state,also can anyone recomend a good gas engine for this plane? because i'm only 12 and have no experience with gas engines,another thing does this plane fly good? heard much about it but how does it fly?
Old 01-20-2003, 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by flyboy4
also can anyone recomend a good gas engine for this plane?
BME 44, BME 50, ZDZ40 or 50, Taurus 3.2, 3W48b2, DA50R, take your pick. All will fly the plane just fine. Try to stay away from the heavier engines like Zenoah, Fuji, US Engines, First Place Engines. Remember, lighter is better. It just all depends on your budget. Most of these engines listed are all within about 100-200 dollars of each other.

As far as how it flies, I too would like to here more flight reports!!!!
Old 01-20-2003, 07:17 AM
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Hello Deadsticker,
We fly at the airport here in Chico. The Super Tiger is almost 1lb heavier than the OS BGX 1. The ST checks in at 4.7 Hp and the OS at 4.1. Have you flown yours ? What are you running ?

Tom
Old 01-20-2003, 02:35 PM
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Hey everyone, my "Patty" has taken to the sky. Yesterday her had her first maiden flight!!!!! What a absoluely wonderful plane!!!

We fired up the ZDZ 40 with Pitts muffler, sounded great, adjusted the carb to bring the top end power close to peak, and did full range check with the engine running.

Just for grins I flip on the smoke for a few seconds while range checking 55 paces away. The plane and the person holding her still disappeared into a huge cloud of smoke! Absolutely awsome!

First flight was rather short, just to get it trimed and test the "feel" for the sticks, the smoke system, and landing approach. It produced tons of dense smoke, even got an applause from the audience. :stupid:

The Second flight was even better, everything set up in high rate for normal flying according to the manual, except the rudder was set for max throw (6-1/2"). I have 3D throws dialed into the dual rate switches, but will wait a few flights to get used to the plane first befoe turning the wild rates loose. I performed a knife edge loop, with the smoke on, quben 8's, vertical 8's, 4 point rolls, stall turns, Torque rolls, loops, and a few vertical tubles, even one that looked like a horizontal knife edge spin!!!

The wind was 10-20 MPH, about 20 Degrees cross wind, landing approachs were wonderfully slow, predictable, and nearly hovered down in the available wind, bounce once, added just a touch of power and she settled right in.


I'm running a Zinger Pro 22-8 prop, ballance point is the center of the wing tube, weight is 15 lbs 8 oz.
Old 01-20-2003, 03:36 PM
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Default Solution to wing tube problem on the GP PW Extra 300

I got mine Extra with the same problem, and after a while I figure a solution....I think:

Take a 3/8" x 24" dowel and rap one of the tips with sponge, about the last 4 inches of the tip. Rap enough sponge until duplicate the ID of the carton tube. Secure the sponge with masking tape in the end where the dowel exit. It will look like a giant Q-Tips!

Take a full sheet of 250 sand paper, roll it and insert it into the carton tube in the fuselage. Help the sand paper to unroll inside the tube until match completely the ID of the tube.

With care, insert the giant Q-tip inside. The pressure of the sponge with expand evenly the sand paper. Then star to stroke all the way. The sand paper is suppose to move along with the Q-tips.

I worked fine for me and the tube fix with no problem at all.

Good luck!
Old 01-20-2003, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Wagstaff Engine

Originally posted by PropFlipper
Hello Deadsticker,
We fly at the airport here in Chico. The Super Tiger is almost 1lb heavier than the OS BGX 1. The ST checks in at 4.7 Hp and the OS at 4.1. Have you flown yours ? What are you running ?

Tom
Cool...I will be soon flying at the Vaca Valley R/C field in Fairfield. I didn't even know about it until about a month before I left to come to Germany. I will be running a DA50R if it will ever ship! I might have to drive up to Chico when I get back and say hey....
Old 01-22-2003, 03:40 AM
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WOW....... where's everybody at
Old 01-22-2003, 04:04 AM
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I'm right here, where are you???

They better be out flying there patty's!
Old 01-22-2003, 08:33 AM
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I was wondering the same?
Old 01-22-2003, 12:42 PM
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After reading almost 1300 posts we are all either experts or just plain tired.
Old 01-22-2003, 12:44 PM
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now it's 1300, do I win something ?
Old 01-22-2003, 12:51 PM
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Is anyone using a Futaba 9C on thier patty? how did you set up the plane with all the functions / mixes ?


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