Hawker Typhoon rises from the ashes!
07-21-2005, 09:36 AM
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Hawker Typhoon rises from the ashes!
A few years back, I made a 1/8 size Typhoon, based on my old 1/12 sized kit. George Kalbfleisch and I were thinking about putting it into production back when he owned a kit company.
George came into some difficult personal issues, and wound up selling the company. I had already assembled a prototype, at that point.
2 years ago, I completed it with MaxCim electric power, and started flying it. After some experimenting, and replacing a couple of bad cells, I got it airborned, and had an immediate winner on my hands. 18 cells, and part-throttle loops 7 minutes into the flight. Sweet plane!
But,
On my third flight, at Ann Arbour, I got hit hard at the top of a loop, losing radio contact. I throttled back, got control, pulled it level, throttled up, and lost contact again. Spiral dive into ground.
Last summer, I got around to repairing the wing and fuselage damage, and then sold the airframe to Chris Rebideaux, with plans for the cowling.
Chris finished the repair, and put in a Saito 80. He has now been flying it, and sent me this report, after flying it in the Chatham Scale meet last weekend.
Note that Chris had built a Typhoon the previous year, from some well-known plans, but it came out too heavy to fly.
"Well, here's some shots of the Tiffie flying this week end at the Chatham Scale Event. You should consider producing the kit. I had a lot of comments on the plane and how it flies (beautifully!!) I really like how this plane handles, great design job!! You should consider producing this and the other Hawkers in this size. Its not so big that you can't carry it in an average car, and doesn't require a huge engine (Saito 80 hauls it perfectly) But the plane still has a really good presence in the sky."
I'll post the pictures (taken by Palmer Johnson) later in the day. I can't get into my AOL ftp space right now, for some reason.
Chris,
Congratulations on a great "resurrection"!
Ron Daniels
George came into some difficult personal issues, and wound up selling the company. I had already assembled a prototype, at that point.
2 years ago, I completed it with MaxCim electric power, and started flying it. After some experimenting, and replacing a couple of bad cells, I got it airborned, and had an immediate winner on my hands. 18 cells, and part-throttle loops 7 minutes into the flight. Sweet plane!
But,
On my third flight, at Ann Arbour, I got hit hard at the top of a loop, losing radio contact. I throttled back, got control, pulled it level, throttled up, and lost contact again. Spiral dive into ground.
Last summer, I got around to repairing the wing and fuselage damage, and then sold the airframe to Chris Rebideaux, with plans for the cowling.
Chris finished the repair, and put in a Saito 80. He has now been flying it, and sent me this report, after flying it in the Chatham Scale meet last weekend.
Note that Chris had built a Typhoon the previous year, from some well-known plans, but it came out too heavy to fly.
"Well, here's some shots of the Tiffie flying this week end at the Chatham Scale Event. You should consider producing the kit. I had a lot of comments on the plane and how it flies (beautifully!!) I really like how this plane handles, great design job!! You should consider producing this and the other Hawkers in this size. Its not so big that you can't carry it in an average car, and doesn't require a huge engine (Saito 80 hauls it perfectly) But the plane still has a really good presence in the sky."
I'll post the pictures (taken by Palmer Johnson) later in the day. I can't get into my AOL ftp space right now, for some reason.
Chris,
Congratulations on a great "resurrection"!
Ron Daniels
07-22-2005, 09:36 AM
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Very Nice! Great detail. I love the Typhoon.
Do you plan on adding door panels to the gear?
I'd love a 1/6 scale.
Good luck with it.
Doug
Do you plan on adding door panels to the gear?
I'd love a 1/6 scale.
Good luck with it.
Doug
07-22-2005, 11:45 AM
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Doug,
1/6 scale is a Brian Taylor design. You can get the plans from Bob holman along with a lazer cut short kit for about $90. Nice work. I'm presently in the process of building my second BT Typhoon. [&o]
Chris
1/6 scale is a Brian Taylor design. You can get the plans from Bob holman along with a lazer cut short kit for about $90. Nice work. I'm presently in the process of building my second BT Typhoon. [&o]
Chris
07-22-2005, 02:19 PM
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Thanks Chris,
I have had the link to that order page for months now and drewl over it now and again
. I'm a beginner builder and feel I need to do a few more kits first before I tackle plans. I'm looking for more of a 1/6 scale kit or arf, but none yet exist that I can find. YT International will be coming out with a nice one next year I'm told.
Good luck with yours. Please post pics of your first and 2nd's building process.
thanks,
Doug
I have had the link to that order page for months now and drewl over it now and again
. I'm a beginner builder and feel I need to do a few more kits first before I tackle plans. I'm looking for more of a 1/6 scale kit or arf, but none yet exist that I can find. YT International will be coming out with a nice one next year I'm told. Good luck with yours. Please post pics of your first and 2nd's building process.
thanks,
Doug
07-22-2005, 07:46 PM
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Well then, here's more to drool over!! I just found this tonight!! I'm so excited I can't wait to order 2 or 3 or 4!!
[link]http://www.arizonacap.com/gifts/warbirds.htm[/link]
Chris
[link]http://www.arizonacap.com/gifts/warbirds.htm[/link]
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07-23-2005, 09:00 PM
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RE: Hawker Typhoon rises from the ashes!
Hey Chris,
I had the little Tempest Mk V (the one in the green ads) up at SMALL out in Ottawa today.
The paved runway allowed me to use the retracts, and taking off of wheels allowed me to (finally!!!!) use the bomb drops.
Fast, super smooth, and virtually unaffected by the bombs!
Nat's, here I come!
Ron
I had the little Tempest Mk V (the one in the green ads) up at SMALL out in Ottawa today.
The paved runway allowed me to use the retracts, and taking off of wheels allowed me to (finally!!!!) use the bomb drops.
Fast, super smooth, and virtually unaffected by the bombs!
Nat's, here I come!
Ron
07-24-2005, 07:55 AM
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Kewl!!!
I was hoping to attend the NATs with the Tiffie under the Fun Scale class but due to a recent family emergency (m-i-l got visited by the cancer man) I won't be able to compete. I may be able to make it down for a day or so.
Chris
I was hoping to attend the NATs with the Tiffie under the Fun Scale class but due to a recent family emergency (m-i-l got visited by the cancer man) I won't be able to compete. I may be able to make it down for a day or so.
Chris
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Hi Chris,
Sorry to hear about you mother-in-law. I hope things go well, and that she is feeling well soon.
Ken Park sent me a picture of the Tempest on take-off roll, just as the tail was coming up.
Note that since I use "scale" doors, but not a scale wheel well location, I fly without the doors. It makes no difference in the air, but the plane would look really cool on take-off and landing, if it had doors.
The wheels come up slightly out of sync (deliberate, for scale effect), which produces a small tail wag. I thought that was pretty neat.
I didn't notice any real difference in the handling with the bombs on board, though there may have been a slight decrease in speed. They certainly make the plane much easier to see when it is coming straight towards you, as the wing is very thin on a Tempest, as you well know.
If I can get a buddy to fly it, and I am allowed, I may do a V1 interception as a scale maneuver in the NAT's. JFZ was on "anti diver" patrol at the time that it is modeled after. The Tempests did some glide bombing later, but I don't know if JN 808 was equipped to handle bomb-dropping. Some did not have wings set up for it, though nearly all Tempest II's could handle bombs, rockets, or drop tanks.
Sorry to hear about you mother-in-law. I hope things go well, and that she is feeling well soon.
Ken Park sent me a picture of the Tempest on take-off roll, just as the tail was coming up.
Note that since I use "scale" doors, but not a scale wheel well location, I fly without the doors. It makes no difference in the air, but the plane would look really cool on take-off and landing, if it had doors.
The wheels come up slightly out of sync (deliberate, for scale effect), which produces a small tail wag. I thought that was pretty neat.
I didn't notice any real difference in the handling with the bombs on board, though there may have been a slight decrease in speed. They certainly make the plane much easier to see when it is coming straight towards you, as the wing is very thin on a Tempest, as you well know.
If I can get a buddy to fly it, and I am allowed, I may do a V1 interception as a scale maneuver in the NAT's. JFZ was on "anti diver" patrol at the time that it is modeled after. The Tempests did some glide bombing later, but I don't know if JN 808 was equipped to handle bomb-dropping. Some did not have wings set up for it, though nearly all Tempest II's could handle bombs, rockets, or drop tanks.
