40% MX2
01-21-2006, 12:40 PM
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40% MX2
I know there was a thread somewhere on here about people wanting a new design, other than a Yak or Extra, and a few knew about the MX2. Well, the choice, at least in 40%ers is now available. I’m not plugging the company, I’m plugging the airplane. Here’s the link to it. [link=http://www.composite-arf.com/ar/Product?651000]MX2[/link]
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01-22-2006, 01:16 AM
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RE: 40% MX2
Looks like a great place for a 3W 106QS on full length tuned pipes. I bet with a little thinking, you could get it down to 33lbs, which is the same weight of a lot of 35% Cardens. (not saying anything bad about Cardens)
With the wing area, it would be like a big foamy at that weight!!!!!
Too much fun, and you would not have to drop the money to upgrade your engine. With those pipes you can run a 30x10 prop!
I would think that any 106 owner would have to look hard at this option.
Good show Comp-Arf!
With the wing area, it would be like a big foamy at that weight!!!!!
Too much fun, and you would not have to drop the money to upgrade your engine. With those pipes you can run a 30x10 prop!
I would think that any 106 owner would have to look hard at this option.
Good show Comp-Arf!
01-22-2006, 05:14 AM
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RE: 40% MX2
The first 1 is actually already sold and due to land in Feb. The next few (also Red or Yellow in place of the Green, or custom colors) will land in March. No numbers on how many or which one's are coming, but I would imagine that the ones that are ordered and paid for, will be on the next boat.
A 106 with full pipes should work. I remember when Dave VonLinsowe took one of his TOC 202's and pulled every other thing out of it and flew it with a DA-100. He said it was a big kite... At 29lbs, I wouldn't guess otherwise.
A 106 with full pipes should work. I remember when Dave VonLinsowe took one of his TOC 202's and pulled every other thing out of it and flew it with a DA-100. He said it was a big kite... At 29lbs, I wouldn't guess otherwise.
01-22-2006, 09:37 AM
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RE: 40% MX2
Looks good and I like that scheme.
The plane is capable of balancing properly with either a 100cc engine or a 150cc engine? How is that possible? It doesn't look like there are 2 wing positions.
Jim
The plane is capable of balancing properly with either a 100cc engine or a 150cc engine? How is that possible? It doesn't look like there are 2 wing positions.
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01-22-2006, 03:16 PM
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Looks like a great place for a 3W 106QS on full length tuned pipes. I bet with a little thinking, you could get it down to 33lbs
01-22-2006, 03:26 PM
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RE: 40% MX2
I wanna big kite!!!! DA100 for me on pipes. THE GREEN SCENE!!!Ahhhhhhhhh! Comp-arf, your killin me! Between that or the lightening! Freakin airplane pourn!
JAS, is there any reason that this airframe could not be built to 29lbs like Dave did with the giles years ago? Did he have a special light one? Maybe even find skorepa or other carbon pipes!
THe video looks very promising. The checkers on the bottow look just a bit too busy for me but what the heck, I could get over that!~).
Joe Kelley
JAS, is there any reason that this airframe could not be built to 29lbs like Dave did with the giles years ago? Did he have a special light one? Maybe even find skorepa or other carbon pipes!
THe video looks very promising. The checkers on the bottow look just a bit too busy for me but what the heck, I could get over that!~).
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01-22-2006, 03:28 PM
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RE: 40% MX2
I wouldnt go with a 100cc anything on the plane, just for the fact that it will have enough power at 31-33lbs, but not completely unlimited. I had a Carden 40% giles that was around 34lbs with a 3w 150, and it was ballistic, as I like it. Tuned pipes do add weight, but I know at least with the 3w 106 that motor is a different animal with them. Guess no one has tried a 110 with full pipes yet. I think if I go this route I will try the Kroma 180 to try something else. Another good choice I would think would be a zdz 160, about the power of a DA, but 1lb less or so.
01-22-2006, 10:18 PM
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RE: 40% MX2
The 110 is a great engine and so is the DA100, they just not have the power of a 3W106QS from my personal experiance. But if they can spin a 30X10 with authority on pipes, then they will work great for this application too.
I have seen personally seen many 31lb to 34lb Carden's being completly unlimited without pipes on their 100's btw.
This plane just seems a little small for a 150, and a little big for 100, so creativity will be needed to make this plane a value at it's size.
I have seen personally seen many 31lb to 34lb Carden's being completly unlimited without pipes on their 100's btw.
This plane just seems a little small for a 150, and a little big for 100, so creativity will be needed to make this plane a value at it's size.
01-22-2006, 11:37 PM
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RE: 40% MX2
The stronger 100cc class engines should be able to pull about 60+ lbs static. That being said, if done light that still is about 1.8:1 thrust/weight.
More is better, but that still should be unlimited.
More is better, but that still should be unlimited.
01-23-2006, 12:53 AM
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A 150 would be insane on this thing, giving it the great power:weight ratio you'd want for IMAC and especially quick and exciting freestyles. Possibly a big 40% sized plane with the quickness and agility of a 35%'er.
01-23-2006, 01:11 AM
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Don't forget that a 40% Giles would be sized comparable to a 35-36% Extra. It's a smaller plane in full scale than a Cap, Edge, or Extra. A little effort to keep the plane as light as possible with a strong engine would go a long way to making it a true performer. Now I've heard rumors that a certain "cult" maker of engines may be coming out with something between the current 100/110's and 150's 'fore too long. Now that I think about it, I believe Taurus may have something currently available along those lines now. Not positive, tho.
01-23-2006, 07:49 AM
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RE: 40% MX2
It's not a Giles 202. It's closer to the Giles G-300, as the MX2 has a 6 cylinder engine, versus the 4 cylinder on the 202, and 200. Also the wing platform is different than the Giles, as it's a double taper wing like an Extra or Cap 232. The tail surfaces are also larger than on the 202. I got a good look at this plane at Oshkosh 2004, and really would have liked to fly it. Scott
01-23-2006, 09:42 AM
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I sure would like to get my hands on this model, and do some EXTENSIVE testing!hahaha! 100-150, whatever. It looks really fun., Great job comp-arf! Now how about a lightening in the p120 or p60 size!haha!~).ooooo, and in green!!! YEA!
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01-23-2006, 11:03 PM
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RE: 40% MX2
im not going to argue about this but i am almost positive it is a 202 fuse. all the giles had 4 cyl. engines. this was the entire idea of the plane itself. cheap, well cheaper acro. the 300 was a one seat airplane, the 202 was 2 seats. the MX2 is a two seat airplane. i think it might have a 6 cyl. lyc. i dont know much but i am sure its not a 300 fuse. im done
here is the real deal holly field http://www.mx2aircraft.com/site.html
here is the real deal holly field http://www.mx2aircraft.com/site.html
01-24-2006, 07:51 AM
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RE: 40% MX2
You are somewhat correct. The MX2 is not a stock 202 fuse, it's longer to accomodate the 6 cylinder engine. Yes' the G-300 is a single seater, but the MX2's fuselage is closer to that than the 202. The G-300 really was a 202 with the lengthened fuse to accomodate the bigger engine, and front seat removed. MX2 wing and tail are different also. Scott
01-25-2006, 12:41 AM
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Have the MX2 bathed, and brought to me!haha!
I remember that kawasaki green too! I love that green!
It sure looks punchy get off the ground like that. That's what I like. !~)
Joe
I remember that kawasaki green too! I love that green!
It sure looks punchy get off the ground like that. That's what I like. !~)
Joe