digitech

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anyone?
need some extra info
CG
overall quality
setup,s radio,s etc

how do they fly ?
fast ? or slow to land?

av8rk

Sandor,
are you referring to the A-10X jet that is available from dreamworks/rc ?
if yes i can help you...

richard

digitech

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yes exactly
i want to know about if you like it or if changes are needed
flying , cg , bad habits , good handling.

Shok

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cg is on the spar.

It's a pretty simple plane to fly.
It will land very slowly with flaps at 40 and just a touch of down trim.

It does not need much throw on the ailerons, they are powerful.

I lost mine when the aileron mount broke loose and jammed full right aileron up deflection. I could not counteract the roll.

Other than that it's a great sport plane.

Oh the landing rails are junk and you need to go inside and glass everywhere the glue joints are and strengthen the whole landing gear area.
I think that was everyones complaint on this aircraft.

Also you might consider some small skids on the underside of the wing in case you have a gear up landing. The booms are pretty weak and will break guaranteed.

swansons

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Sandor,
double ditto on the landing gear blocks!! I got one flight on my 10X at Waco this past weekend because of the weak landing gear mounts. One of them folded almost completely out of the wing. They definitely need strengthening.

John S.

cactusflyer

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Ronnie,

By "spar" do you mean the wing tube or the wooden spars in the wing??

Thanks in advance,

John

Shok

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sorry, wing tube


rcarf shows the cg 100mm from the leading edge back.

digitech

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ok thanks all.
i just recieved stock and before i will start to sell these .
i want to find issues so i can perpare some stuff for it.
i will defenetly make a jet-1a gear for it , this will fix most of the small problems.
the original gear looks ok , but as always the oleo,s are to long and act as a long lever to pull out your wingspars.
the wooden blocks seems to be ok , hover the glue is minor indeed.
on the front one this is typical lasercut problems.
the cut ok but do not grind them so the glue wont hold.i will post some pixtures also soon to see progress.

AirPac Models

We have the original A-10X, Many people still fly in the our field. Also both AirPac and Dreamworks still have the A-10X in stock. Ronnie is right, the C.G. just on the wing tube. It's a very simple and easy plane. Show the pictures when we developed it in 2004 and some A-10x fly in our field, even a EDF version!

rongreg13

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I've got one that I flew originally with a P-60 and a CG that was too far to the rear. That resulted in a less than perfect landing and the gear blocks being ripped out (as others have experienced). I repaired it with better quality wood and glue, recovered, and have converted it to twin 90mm EDF. I also adjusted the CG forward, and now it flies like it's on rails. It is absolutely rock solid stable with a fantastic roll rate. Approaches are simple and it slows down to a crawl for landing. Mine weighs 16 lbs with the EDF setup that puts out a bit over 10 lbs of thrust. This results in performance similar, but not quite even with the P-60 setup I had in it originally. It's not a speed demon by any means, but it flies so stable and predictable that it is a lot of fun.
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digitech

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i was suprised again about the good quality of the paint job done.
and especialy the packaging of the whole plane.
as i mentioned it needs some work , but then again it is relative cheap if you compare to others.
this has composite hull , wooden wings and booms.
i just weighted it and got only 3,9 kilo,s incl landing gear.
i will fly it next week powered with a Wren gold 44 , i think this will be a winner..
about the rails breaking out , as i mentioned it needs different oleo,s.
i will see what i can comeup with to suit a set of oleo,s to fit FB,s landing gear and wheels.

thank you all for this loverly info , i am getting a good overal picture.
after we fly it we will start offering them to others.
i rather test it first myself then to sell it and have a mouth full of uhhhhhhssssss..

lov2flyrc

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Hey Sandor,
The A-10X is a fantastic little airplane. Very nice flight envelope, no bad habits, fairly well constructed. The only complaint I have is the lack of proper glue at the gear mounting blocks. The blocks themselves are more than adequate, the bonding of the blocks does need attention. Just some additional application of hysol at the blocks is all that is needed to rectify this problem. If flying off rough grass, you may wish to laminnate the block with some carbon plate but, since securing them with hysol, I have yet to pull the mounts out..... and, I have purposely tried!
For the price, I am really surprised this kit has not grown in popularity. It is one of my favorite "every day beater" planes. No fear flying with great perfomance. I tucked another kit away for my son when he is ready....

Todd

digitech

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Thanks todd

i am sure after this weekend we wil get some reply,s from the UK and mainland.
they just need to see it like i did.
i am always a bit sceptical , but true it looks good.
the first boomerangs also needed work on the bearers as long you can do it before you build it.
looking forward to maiden this baby next week.
i am sure with that tank and a wren 44 on it we would be looking at 15-20 minutes of flying time..

ravill

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Sandor,

I have video of me flying my A-10x at www.alamedahornetsquadron.com. Just look in the video section. Its the "trainer" jet.

The elevators are also a little touchy so have dual rates. The gear WILL break if you leave them alone. I have had the most gentle landings and the gear mounts broke.

I hate dissagreeing with Todd, but.....I think the blocks need more than just some extra hysol. I had to buy a whole other airplane(thanks for the deal Todd!!) just for the center section. I had to double EVERY former and now it is bullet proof. I had a buddy bounce it 9 times down the runway without any damage.

Let her settle on final, it floats FOR EVER........ Crow setting might help bleed off some speed. She flys straight and true and will do almost anything you want. It will snap out of a sharp loop. Kinda like a mustang or spitfire in a tight loop.

I have now about 50 flights and this little airplane is great.

Enjoy!!

Rafael

rongreg13

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I agree with ravill's comments on the landing gear blocks. When mine departed the plane, they came out pretty much in one piece still attached to my retract (SA702 w/ crappy SA Robostrut knock-off). I inspected the blocks themselves and they were made from some extremely soft plywood that literally bent in my hands with very little force applied to them. I used them to create templates and cut new mounts from some higher quality plywood and they have performed great since reinstalled. I did no other reinforcement other than glueing them back in the same cradles with 30-minute epoxy. I now use Central Hobbies titanium wire struts on the SA702 retracts and have had no gear issues since.

I think an MW44 Gold would be a GREAT combo for this plane with some super long flight times. My EDF setup puts out a bit over 10 lbs of thrust and I set my timer for 10 minute flights which I think would be a similar experience to what you would get with the MW44.

rongreg13

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More on the original questions from the first post--

>anyone?
>need some extra info
>CG
>overall quality
>setup,s radio,s etc
>
>how do they fly ?
>fast ? or slow to land?

The setup I use on mine includes a 6V servo/receiver system with (4) JR 811 servos on ailerons and elevators, (2) Hitec 475HB servos on flaps, (2) Hitec 125MG servos on rudders, a standard servo for nose steering, and a micro servo for the retract valve. This plane is not fast, nor is it heavy, and you could probably get away with flying it using all standard servos, although I wouldn't want to experiment on mine! I've had no issues with control and use the stock Skymaster linkages and carbon horns, but I have added heavy duty servo arms.

Since converting to EDF power, I've eliminated the pneumatic brake system in the interest of weight. My control surface throws are pretty much the standard settings that have been suggested for the jet. I use a large amount of expo on the elevators as I have found them to be ultra sensitive, but the rest is pretty standard. It takes quite a bit of flap>elevator mixing to compensate for the change in pitch, but other than that I have nothing out of the ordinary. I use a JR R2000 synthesized SPCM receiver with a Revolution whip antenna mounted on the equipment tray extending into the canopy. It works great.

digitech

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can anyone tell me the trows needed?
just finisched it and need some info
what do you guys used?

digitech

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done!
still need the trows
anyone?

Shok

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did you paint that?
Or is that new design

Aero65

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Sandor

Sweet paint job. Looks real good!

digitech

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that is the Fei bao,s new design i guess
i just build it ...
still need the trows since i want to fly it this weekend

Shok

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18-25mm for elevator
15-20mm aileron
15-20mm rudder

I put in about 50 degree flap with a slight down elevator trim, it will land at a crawl.

rongreg13

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I've been using the standard throws above on mine with no problems. I like the elevator setup towards the high end of the scale with plenty of expo. The ailerons don't need the max throws as roll rate is excellent without too much expo. I have about 15% up elevator mixed in with flaps to compensate for the nose down pitch. If you get your CG set correctly, the plane will fly very docile at these throws and will takeoff and land quite slow.

av8rk

the last 2 posts are a little confusing.....to me at least.....
some a10-x flyers say to mix down elevator trim when flaps are deployed.....
some a10-x flyers say to mix up elevator trim when the flaps are deployed.....
of course it is assumed that the cg and incidence is identical for the models.....
i'm not saying that the pilots of these models are incorrect with their info here...
i'm just trying to figure out why one model would require up trim and the other model
needs down trim when flaps are deployed....

Rich

Shok

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No idea, but mine took just a slight amount of down with flaps deployed