crankpin

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elderair

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I ordered mine from Airwild. Guess I will get it when I get it. I will just have to suffer with my substandard 10X for a while longer. There is no way I am getting rid my 10X even if I do ever get my 2.4 9303. Just too nice of a radio and I will need a while to build my own trust in the 2.4. The thing is, I wanted a new 9303 anyway and I was talked into waiting for the 2.4 becuase of the servo sync and the model match. Anyway, I am waiting to set up my Aerotech Yak with the new system. I will be buying a few new Rx's also. Hold tight everyone. Good things (like 9303 2.4's) come to those who wait. [sm=wink_smile.gif]

crankpin

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I agree. I am OK on radios, etc. This 9303 is going in my 86" QQ Yak. I don't want to spend this kind of dough on the plane, and take a chance of getting shot down, or some kind of interference. I believe that the manufacturer's of larger planes, engines, etc., may sell more product with these 2.4 GHZ radio's. As you said, we will buy more rx's, servos, battery packs, enignes, etc., for this new technology.

elderair

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Yes, I like the thought of the 2.4 being out of the range of ignition interference.
Gassers should benefit from it . I will just say this, When Somenzini was flying his new Pitts Monster with the 2.4 Ghz 9303 at Mac Hodges field it experienced problems and went into the field. I didn't find out what caused it but hope it was pilot error or equipment other than the DSM system. I don't think that much was said about the "rough" landing in the field. It certainly wasn't blamed on radio problems. We all have some problems eventually, even the great ones.

golfingguy27

Horizon explained QQ's problems on high servo current draw. According to the article on the website, the servos were drawing so much power that they caused the problem and had nothing to do with the 2.4ghz technology.

elderair

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That is a good thing to hear. I guess I should have followed up on it. Thanks for the info.
Kent

crankpin

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Affirmative ........... Batteries. Problem resolved.

Futurase

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Danny,
Is there any update to the radios? It is odd you have been saying very soon for a while now and website said they had shipped and now it says the end of August and the shipped notice is gone. I am going to assume the end of August is to stop the deluge of people wanting an answer on arrival.

Thanks,

Norman Ross Jr.

dsnyder

There are no updates at this time. The systems will be shipping ASAP.

crankpin

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I do not think that a field rep for any company, can advise availability or production 'ready to ship' dates. These folks get pummeled with questions daily. If they go to trade shows and contest's, same thing. The distributor's employee's want to tell you what you want to hear, but also walking a fine line of: keeping the end user's interested, their employer's goodwill to all, somewhat of a solid delivery date, and making sure that once it gets in everyone's hands, and that it is bullet proof.

A lot of these guy's are married, have a family, live in the technical world in the daytime. They go home at night, and their wife tells them to take the garbage out. Real world returns. To us it is a hobby. If you work in the industry, it becomes a job, and radio's, airplanes and engines are just product, pieces to be sold so a salary can be earned.

I hope they pay these guys that work in the industry well. They listen to crap from us all day long on the internet with many e-mails to answer before they start their day, at contest's, trade shows, plus inter-company meetings, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and the boss wanting to know, "What did you do for me today". How many units did we move last month. Nothing else matters. Sales.

Waiting on a good radio, worth waiting for.
Vince
Hobe Sound, FL
AMA 52779

teryn1

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and what is your point with all of this? there is no reason why Danny/JR/Horizon can not give us good info on an update. Everyone in the chain of command from Danny to his boss's are well aware of where the product is and when it will arrive. Although I have a lot of respect for Danny/JR/Horizon, it's all just a big game. But I am looking forward to the 9303.

crankpin

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TMI (too much information)

teryn1

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OK, point taken. Your new comments make more sense.

reyn3545

The retailers had an opportunity to pre-order this long before the consumers, so that part of the equation should be pretty predictable. I think its likely that the first shipment will be smaller than originally planned, and now the allocation game begins. It will be the same when the product makes it to the retailers... they will have to decide who gets the product first, and who waits.

Technology manufacturing always has been burdened with short "first runs", quickly backfilled with more product. From Horizon's site, it looks like they've decided to feed the customer first who ordered the radio, receiver and servos in one kit... the other customers will wait until September. Based on where the products are kitted, I'd say that JR made that decision and forced it downstream.

We're all waiting, and that's all we can do. Remember when you were a kid and Christmas just couldn't get here soon enough? Its no different now, except that you can't look at the calendar and count. I'm just glad I ordered the whole kit. I bet there will be a ton of servos on ebay soon.

crankpin

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TMI (too much information).

reyn3545

Yeah, you're right... Igotta admit, its not very kind to flood this thread with banner ads for a product that nobody can get!!

jcarlton

Danny,

I, too, came to the same conclusion about orders for Tx's with servos shipping out ahead of those looking simply for the Tx and Rx. Are you at liberty to explain to us how the back orders will be filled for the X9303's? Will it be on a first order in, first order out basis, or more along the lines of pleasing the big disty's first?

Waiting for 9 channels of fun,

John

reyn3545

Here it is, straight from Horizon to my inbox.....


Thank you for your inquiry. Our system shows that we expect to
receive our first shipment of JR X9303 2.4 GHz Radios with Servos
(JRP2910,JRP2920) some time around the middle of August and we expect to
receive our first shipment of JR X9303 2.4 GHz Radios without Servos
(JRP2915,JRP2925) some time around the beginning of September. If you
have any other questions, feel free to either respond to this e-mail or
call us at 1-800-338-4639 and we would be happy to provide you with the
information that you need.

jcarlton

Okay, so reyn has been able to answer my question about servos vs no servos. I would still like to have Danny comment on the allocation of products once shipments begin.

Danny, can you please comment on allocation of first shipments and subsequent shipments?

reyn3545

Wait a minute... I'm just a retail customer like almost everyone else posting here... I don't know a thing abuot JR/Horizon's distribution policies.. my comments are based on my experience in the technology industry with many other manufacturers. In the end, in a perfect world, it would come down to a simple first-come, first-served practice, and that very well may be what's going to happen.

But, if the products are allocated, its only fair for Horizon to allow some number to go to each distributor, and some number to be reserved for the direct retail customers... what the numbers are is purely up to them. Excess demand is a great problem to have, but a terrible one to resolve!

60 days from now, we'll all look back and just be glad that we already have ours!

golfingguy27

That's easy for you to say, you probably are still flying with another transmitter. I am waiting for mine to put in my brand new Yak and I haven't flown anything but my foamies in 5 years. 60 days from now I'll be happy to have the radio but will only have a few weeks to fly before it gets too cold. I should have never sold my old Tx until this one came.

jcarlton

Reyn,

I was not implying that you know anything about the JR or Horizon policy on shipments. In my original post I asked Danny two questions:

1.) Based on the data from Horizon's web site, it appears that the X9303's with servos will be shipping first; Is this true? (You answered this by posting your email from Horizon)

2.) Are you at liberty to explain to us how the back orders will be filled for the X9303's? Will it be on a first order in, first order out basis, or more along the lines of pleasing the big disty's first? (Still waiting on an answer from Danny)

I was in no way implying that you knew inside information. Sorry for any confusion.

My second question is still out there for Danny to answer... If Danny is at liberty to answer. If not, Danny, please answer the best you can. Secret code along the lines of, "The might Mississippi River will see boat traffic first" or "The earlier the seed was planted, the earlier the crop will grow" would be acceptable, too. [sm=wink_smile.gif][sm=wink_smile.gif]

Altough a straight answer would be much appreciated after the generic answers the techno-hungry consumers here on RCU have had to put up with. (I completely understand that Danny is simply doing his best to provide as much detail as possible without stepping outside of what he has been instructed to state, everyone, so please don't jump down my post and explain why Danny isn't able to answer us as we would prefer to be answered)

John

teryn1

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After being asked a million times in different threads, why couldn't we get at least this out of Danny. I just really don't get what the game is here.....

Jerry C

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dsnyder

In regards to allocation, dealer orders are filled first, all other orders are filled first in, first out.