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Old 03-18-2008, 02:10 PM
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Heres the Astec website: http://astecmodels.co.uk/
Old 03-18-2008, 02:49 PM
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retrobor's idea was a good one, it would be a great boat and you will learn a lot from it. 27mph is pretty fast for a brushed 500 boat, it would take a while to set it up but it would be great fun and you may get it up to similar speeds, good luck
Old 03-18-2008, 03:55 PM
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All right.. Sorry everybody, for saying some different all the time.
i have now read the whole thread through again, and there i saw that retobcr was the guy that started to write i should make one myself..
- And after many thoughts it is actually that i want to do most.. And im sorry for just been saying that i want the SuperVee..
I hope your not mad at me

So if u want to help me i would be pleased.
I'm not sure if i want a mono or a cat.. - I want one that is very stabil, and easy to use.
Old 03-18-2008, 04:26 PM
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Ok, the UFO is the best bang for the buck. Go to astec model like alloutcustom typed. UFO is solid and postage from U.K. shouldn't be much. Also it can be 6-8 cell and best results is saddle packs, one 3 cell on each side of motor. ok, www.finedesignrc.com, then go to boat hulls, then to h20 boats, then click around till you find setups for ufo cause i just did and showed it all. Make your own hardware and copy the pictures on your printer . My motor setup is 6" from transom and some say 5 1/2" from transom and cg is right at 29-30% from transom and a good sold 05-540 in what ever they have in Denmark on 6-7 cell. Get a 632 prop but make sure it is a 6 pitch, anything else won't work. now a 8 pitch won't work, a 534 won't work, 535 won't work, 432 won't work but a 632 will work. I don't know what kind of props you have over there, but carbon fiber in the 6 pitch and could be the " S " series, not sure but ask your dealer. That's the best i can do. Forgot , get .130 cable and teflon liner and cable stub or shaft. I sandpaper my cable so it is almost smooth so to cut friction by 75% except where cable goes into cable stub or shaft. Won't hurt the cable cause your not racing and still won't hurt. I picked up the sanding from Ernie Lazbury of U.K. many years ago of Rumrunner site.
Old 03-18-2008, 04:31 PM
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Forgot, tape all around the cover and then put another row of tape outside that just for sake.
Old 03-18-2008, 04:56 PM
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All right, im pretty frustrated now..
Shall i make all the hardware my self?
And what material, and what are all the precise measurements?
All i can find is some pictures of the hardware at the UFO, and prices..
The hull looks good..
Old 03-18-2008, 05:02 PM
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you could use the motor reterbcr said or use a Co27, that should work as well, and has more potential for 8 cells
Old 03-18-2008, 05:24 PM
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Are you thinking about the trinity CO27?
And how should i make an axle that goes from the motor to transom. Or is it something that i just should buy?
Old 03-18-2008, 05:38 PM
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you should buy it. Go to offshoreelectrics.com then hardware and then to cables. Get an assembled .125 or .130 cable

Beware of finedesignrc.com recently people from out of the us have bought stuff and not recieved it so be carefull, maybe try another place to buy it.
Old 03-19-2008, 08:19 AM
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Good luck in what ever boat you decide on, i gave a honest college try. I just suggested what might be a good solid boat that was stable and easy to setup. BTW, i'm not arrogant by any means but i'm 72 and time is like gold for me compared to the younger set. Now alot of threads like this come up everyday and the poster needs to give alot more info to even get a half way decent answer.I don't think i'll answer any more questions about which boat and etc; seems everyone who asks never read about boats or types or even motors before posting and then get hot under the collar, that makes the helper feel like a a** and automatically turns them sour. Now if you don't go after the boat mentioned, fine, your decision, we can't force your or deside, just suggest only! This is why the older guys like me won't touch these type postings.
Old 03-19-2008, 08:23 AM
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The only reason i typed finedesignrc was for a look at boat and the inside setup so you could understand what i' talking about and the transom area. Most monos will look similiar in setup, no matter a deep vee or even shallow v will look!
Old 03-19-2008, 08:56 AM
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Yesterday i was sitting for hours and looking at all the sites u mentioned..
And i found out of this:

The hull should be a H20 Ufo II
I should use 6 cell saddle pack.
I should make the hardware my self..
i should use a flex cable, .125 or .130
I should use a 632 prop.

So stop saying, that i dont appreciate you help. Cause i do. - And i wouldnt have known as much if u would'nt have helped.
Old 03-19-2008, 09:28 AM
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Whoa, cowboy, i didn't say one word about appreciation. I said it's your decision, i just suggested and said older don't like such threads cause most are to vague and should read something before asking cause 99 3/4% older guys will just go right on by. I do think this thread should shut down and erased by you and start over. You were the original poster and you can do that. I can't erase as i don't have permission to do so or i would erase the stuff i posted and get on with my life. Good luck! I don't tell people how to do stuff, i just suggest only as i first stated.
Old 03-19-2008, 10:19 AM
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Retaobcr,. Please stop writing in my thread constantly has to say ur retired.. - Then i dont want your help.. All that u do is make me more confused.
Thank for your help Alloutcustom and Jeeprubicon.
Old 03-19-2008, 11:34 AM
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Excellent idea, you can erase all my posting would please me greatly or ask the moderator to do it cause you started the thread and so you can do it. Thank You!
Old 03-19-2008, 03:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: MaaRcuuS

Yesterday i was sitting for hours and looking at all the sites u mentioned..
And i found out of this:

The hull should be a H20 Ufo II
I should use 6 cell saddle pack.
I should make the hardware my self..
i should use a flex cable, .125 or .130
I should use a 632 prop.

So stop saying, that i dont appreciate you help. Cause i do. - And i wouldnt have known as much if u would'nt have helped.
Yes that is good. Then you need a coupler 1/8th to .130
Old 03-19-2008, 03:36 PM
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That covers it for hardware and hull. Now for electronics. If you want to run 8-cells then get the trininty Co27, if you would like to run 6-cells, i would run the motor retaobcr recomended, or a team checkpoint money motor. As for building hardware you would use around 1/8th aluminum for the rudder, nvm ill just post a pic of it.
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Old 03-19-2008, 06:26 PM
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All right, so thats the parts i need to make..
Will the parts that u posted an image of, fit directly to the UFO II hull?

What about the aluminium, shall i just ask for a piece of 1/8" thick sheet of aluminium.
Well, so my basket at offshore should look this:



About the electrics.. Why not a brushless? i hate that a brushed motor has to get so much maintenance.
Btw. thanks for you helping
Old 03-19-2008, 07:11 PM
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Oops, forgot coupler.. So also that..
Doh, my pic is pretty big /:
What about cooling of the motor? - Dont i need that?
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you can make a cooling coil but a water jacket is better
Old 03-20-2008, 04:31 AM
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Ok..
If we say i buy a Feigao size 540, which of these?
[link=http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_power_Search.asp]Feigao Motors.[/link]
And then on of these for motor-cooling.
[link=http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4887]Motor-cooling[/link]
btw. The stuff on the picture, is it what i has to buy at offshore, or is there more?
Can you recommend an esc, for the job

Link for the motor doesnt work..
Just type "Feigao 540" in the search field

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