Losi's new 1/10th Crawler
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Losi's new 1/10th Crawler
Has anyone seen this yet? Any more info on it?
[link=http://losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSA0051]Losi 1/10th Comp Crawler Race Roller[/link]
[link=http://losi.com/Products/Features.aspx?ProdId=LOSA0051]Losi 1/10th Comp Crawler Race Roller[/link]
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[link=http://www.rccaraction.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=E29CAE68A6D4457BA0FB171BEC7D56D2&nm=Site+Features&type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=D449A9170B9142E0B2C6726748E4111A]Here is a little more info[/link]
And a pic or 2
And a pic or 2
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RE: Losi's new 1/10th Crawler
ORIGINAL: dezfan
The RF is toast.
I'll be willing to bet that Losi actually LISTENED to crawlers when they designed this rig.
Nice job Losi.
The RF is toast.
I'll be willing to bet that Losi actually LISTENED to crawlers when they designed this rig.
Nice job Losi.
It will be a good head to head challenge. Advantage Losi with the front and rear dig. Isn't the RF only one axle?
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Oh ok like remote lockin diffs that are coming on the summit ?
Oh ok like remote lockin diffs that are coming on the summit ?
When in doubt, search here...or Google "rc dig unit"
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Can't wait until it's released. Going to get the kit and hopefully a couple of the trannys for my Ax's.
The $280 price range is awesome for the features this has.. Love the high center clearance axles on it...
I was thinking of going the Berg route before this info came out on the Losi.. Now I know which direction I am going... At the past several comps I have attended I have seen about a dozen berg dig switches fry and then there digs are useless...
I am still not understanding though how Losi claims it will not have any torque twist since it does still have drive shafts...
The $280 price range is awesome for the features this has.. Love the high center clearance axles on it...
I was thinking of going the Berg route before this info came out on the Losi.. Now I know which direction I am going... At the past several comps I have attended I have seen about a dozen berg dig switches fry and then there digs are useless...
I am still not understanding though how Losi claims it will not have any torque twist since it does still have drive shafts...
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RE: Losi's new 1/10th Crawler
Here is some more info on this new rig from Losi:
Incorporating real engineering elements from full-size rock crawling competition, the 1/10 Comp Crawler represents the pinnacle of RC rock crawling design. Every part, every feature and every inch is designed to mimic real-world competition platforms, resulting in the most advanced 1/10-scale radio control crawler ever developed.
The list of innovations that make the Comp Crawler an RC revolution is long, and it starts with a solid foundation. The Twin Vertical Plate (TVP) chassis with adjustable upper shock mounts offers unbeatable stability and rigidity in a durable, lightweight design. The result is confident handling over any terrain and outstanding suspension articulation. And Team Losi Racing has gone one step further, by offering this innovative crawling chassis pre-built and tuned right out of the box. All you have to do is add the electronics of your choice and paint the included Lexan Grapler Pro body.
Team Losi Racing’s Comp Crawler is the first rock crawling platform in the industry to offer a revolutionary front and rear “dig†transmission. The use of an optional third channel setup allows the front or rear drive axle to be disengaged, locking the wheels in place and acting as a steering brake for precise lateral movement on and over obstacles. The transmission case has been fitted with adjustable servo mounts that will allow for the use of most “mini†servos and includes an aluminum servo arm. The third channel on a 3-channel radio (such as the Spektrum DX3R) allows the full use of the DIG transmission, and also requires a micro servo installation for actuation. If you do not have a 3-channel radio system or extra servo there is no need to worry - the Comp Crawler will function with full time 4wd with our without a dig servo hooked up.
The solid axle setup on the Comp Crawler offers a significant reduction in flex for improved performance. Inside, the axles utilize a worm gear drive for outstanding precision in throttle control and maneuverability. Another benefit of the worm gear drivetrain design is the elimination of the “torque twist†commonly found in shaft driven rock crawlers. As a result, the Comp Crawler stays in contact with the ground for uninterrupted grip.
The Comp Crawler features a 4 link suspension layout that offers 70 degrees of suspension articulation. This specially designed 4-link suspension setup is used in combination with the twin vertical plate chassis to reduce axle swing and eliminate side-to-side movement for increased steering and maneuvering precision. 7mm diameter aluminum suspension links are hard anodized and triangulated to the center of the chassis for better balance front to rear when the suspension starts to twist. 4†Aluminum threaded shocks with Titanium Nitride (TiNi) shafts allow the suspension to articulate without any binds.
Designed with the demanding conditions of competition rock crawling in mind, the steering system on the Comp Crawler provides precise control as well as class leading performance with 45 degrees of steering throw. The front caster blocks feature 10 degrees of caster and the spindles are attached with heavy duty steel king pins. The steering geometry also allowed Team Losi Racing engineers to raise the main steering link closer to the axle housing, giving the Crawler additional clearance when approaching obstacles.
Just like full-size crawlers, the 1/10 Comp Crawler utilizes functional beadlock wheels with aluminum outer rings. The functioning beadlock allows for the tires to maintain more contact and traction, while the aluminum outer rings provide evenly distributed pressure for unbeatable tire mounting. Losi’s National Champion Rock Claws 2.2 Tires come mounted on the beadlock wheels, complete with foam inserts. The added ground clearance from the Rock Claws tires makes conquering any and all courses easier.
Features:
Compact Front & Rear Locking (DIG) Center Transmission allows the crawler to overtake obstacles with ease
Front and Rear Solid Axle with Worm Gear Drive
4-Link Suspension offers 70 degrees of articulation and minimizes front and rear axle swing, allowing for more precise handling
Zero Ackerman Steering provides class leading performance with 45 degrees of steering throw
Front and Rear locked differential provides full time 4wd
3-Piece 2.2" Bead Lock Wheels with aluminum outer rings
National Champion 2.2 Losi Rock Claws Tires with foam inserts
Twin Vertical Plate Chassis with adjustable upper shock mounts
4" Aluminum Threaded Shocks with Titanium Nitride (TiNi) Shafts allow the suspension to articulate without any binds.
Durable, telescoping CV drive shafts allow for increased steering range
Aluminum Upper and Lower Suspension Links for added strength
Lexan Grappler Pro body is optimized to USRCCA Rules and allows for clearance of the tires as they articulate
Race Roller Chassis is preassembled; simply add electronics, paint the body and go
Product Specifications:
Type:Competition 2.2 Rock Crawler Race Roller
Scale:1/10 (2.2)
Length:17.5 inches (444.5mm)
Width:10.5 inches (266.7mm)
Wheelbase:12.5 inches (317.5 mm)
Weight:4.18 lbs. (1.9kg)
Chassis:Twin Verticle Plate
Suspension:4-Link
Tire Type:National Champion Losi Rock Claws 2.2
Wheel Size:2.2" Bead Lock
Kit/RTR:Race Roller
Shock Type:4" Aluminum with Titanium Nitride (TiNi) shafts
Body:Clear Lexan Grappler Pro
Needed to Complete:
Basic set-up
17.5 T Brushless Motor and ESC (LOSB9553 Xcelorin Sensored 17.5T ESC/Motor Combo)
2-3-Cell LiPo (LOSB9865 11.1V 1350mAh 3S 20C LiPo)
Charger for above battery (LOSB9605 Intelligent Lithium Charger)
High torque Steering Servo (Min. of 200oz) (JRPSZ9100T Digital Ultra-Torque MG Servo)
2 Channel Radio System
Paint
Advanced Completion
To take full advantage of the DIG set-up and the true potential of the 1/10 Comp Crawler .
3-Channel Radio System w/ 3 position 3rd channel switch (SPM3130 DX3R DSM2 Radio System)
Mini Steering Servo (LOSB0822 MSX12 Digital Mini Servo)
Incorporating real engineering elements from full-size rock crawling competition, the 1/10 Comp Crawler represents the pinnacle of RC rock crawling design. Every part, every feature and every inch is designed to mimic real-world competition platforms, resulting in the most advanced 1/10-scale radio control crawler ever developed.
The list of innovations that make the Comp Crawler an RC revolution is long, and it starts with a solid foundation. The Twin Vertical Plate (TVP) chassis with adjustable upper shock mounts offers unbeatable stability and rigidity in a durable, lightweight design. The result is confident handling over any terrain and outstanding suspension articulation. And Team Losi Racing has gone one step further, by offering this innovative crawling chassis pre-built and tuned right out of the box. All you have to do is add the electronics of your choice and paint the included Lexan Grapler Pro body.
Team Losi Racing’s Comp Crawler is the first rock crawling platform in the industry to offer a revolutionary front and rear “dig†transmission. The use of an optional third channel setup allows the front or rear drive axle to be disengaged, locking the wheels in place and acting as a steering brake for precise lateral movement on and over obstacles. The transmission case has been fitted with adjustable servo mounts that will allow for the use of most “mini†servos and includes an aluminum servo arm. The third channel on a 3-channel radio (such as the Spektrum DX3R) allows the full use of the DIG transmission, and also requires a micro servo installation for actuation. If you do not have a 3-channel radio system or extra servo there is no need to worry - the Comp Crawler will function with full time 4wd with our without a dig servo hooked up.
The solid axle setup on the Comp Crawler offers a significant reduction in flex for improved performance. Inside, the axles utilize a worm gear drive for outstanding precision in throttle control and maneuverability. Another benefit of the worm gear drivetrain design is the elimination of the “torque twist†commonly found in shaft driven rock crawlers. As a result, the Comp Crawler stays in contact with the ground for uninterrupted grip.
The Comp Crawler features a 4 link suspension layout that offers 70 degrees of suspension articulation. This specially designed 4-link suspension setup is used in combination with the twin vertical plate chassis to reduce axle swing and eliminate side-to-side movement for increased steering and maneuvering precision. 7mm diameter aluminum suspension links are hard anodized and triangulated to the center of the chassis for better balance front to rear when the suspension starts to twist. 4†Aluminum threaded shocks with Titanium Nitride (TiNi) shafts allow the suspension to articulate without any binds.
Designed with the demanding conditions of competition rock crawling in mind, the steering system on the Comp Crawler provides precise control as well as class leading performance with 45 degrees of steering throw. The front caster blocks feature 10 degrees of caster and the spindles are attached with heavy duty steel king pins. The steering geometry also allowed Team Losi Racing engineers to raise the main steering link closer to the axle housing, giving the Crawler additional clearance when approaching obstacles.
Just like full-size crawlers, the 1/10 Comp Crawler utilizes functional beadlock wheels with aluminum outer rings. The functioning beadlock allows for the tires to maintain more contact and traction, while the aluminum outer rings provide evenly distributed pressure for unbeatable tire mounting. Losi’s National Champion Rock Claws 2.2 Tires come mounted on the beadlock wheels, complete with foam inserts. The added ground clearance from the Rock Claws tires makes conquering any and all courses easier.
Features:
Compact Front & Rear Locking (DIG) Center Transmission allows the crawler to overtake obstacles with ease
Front and Rear Solid Axle with Worm Gear Drive
4-Link Suspension offers 70 degrees of articulation and minimizes front and rear axle swing, allowing for more precise handling
Zero Ackerman Steering provides class leading performance with 45 degrees of steering throw
Front and Rear locked differential provides full time 4wd
3-Piece 2.2" Bead Lock Wheels with aluminum outer rings
National Champion 2.2 Losi Rock Claws Tires with foam inserts
Twin Vertical Plate Chassis with adjustable upper shock mounts
4" Aluminum Threaded Shocks with Titanium Nitride (TiNi) Shafts allow the suspension to articulate without any binds.
Durable, telescoping CV drive shafts allow for increased steering range
Aluminum Upper and Lower Suspension Links for added strength
Lexan Grappler Pro body is optimized to USRCCA Rules and allows for clearance of the tires as they articulate
Race Roller Chassis is preassembled; simply add electronics, paint the body and go
Product Specifications:
Type:Competition 2.2 Rock Crawler Race Roller
Scale:1/10 (2.2)
Length:17.5 inches (444.5mm)
Width:10.5 inches (266.7mm)
Wheelbase:12.5 inches (317.5 mm)
Weight:4.18 lbs. (1.9kg)
Chassis:Twin Verticle Plate
Suspension:4-Link
Tire Type:National Champion Losi Rock Claws 2.2
Wheel Size:2.2" Bead Lock
Kit/RTR:Race Roller
Shock Type:4" Aluminum with Titanium Nitride (TiNi) shafts
Body:Clear Lexan Grappler Pro
Needed to Complete:
Basic set-up
17.5 T Brushless Motor and ESC (LOSB9553 Xcelorin Sensored 17.5T ESC/Motor Combo)
2-3-Cell LiPo (LOSB9865 11.1V 1350mAh 3S 20C LiPo)
Charger for above battery (LOSB9605 Intelligent Lithium Charger)
High torque Steering Servo (Min. of 200oz) (JRPSZ9100T Digital Ultra-Torque MG Servo)
2 Channel Radio System
Paint
Advanced Completion
To take full advantage of the DIG set-up and the true potential of the 1/10 Comp Crawler .
3-Channel Radio System w/ 3 position 3rd channel switch (SPM3130 DX3R DSM2 Radio System)
Mini Steering Servo (LOSB0822 MSX12 Digital Mini Servo)
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RE: Losi's new 1/10th Crawler
Sounds like those boys need to step up to some MANLY DIG switches from Holmes Hobbies.
http://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...&cat=12&page=1
http://holmeshobbies.com/product.php...&cat=12&page=1
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ORIGINAL: KvilleKrawler
Can't wait until it's released. Going to get the kit and hopefully a couple of the trannys for my Ax's.
The $280 price range is awesome for the features this has.. Love the high center clearance axles on it...
I was thinking of going the Berg route before this info came out on the Losi.. Now I know which direction I am going... At the past several comps I have attended I have seen about a dozen berg dig switches fry and then there digs are useless...
I am still not understanding though how Losi claims it will not have any torque twist since it does still have drive shafts...
Can't wait until it's released. Going to get the kit and hopefully a couple of the trannys for my Ax's.
The $280 price range is awesome for the features this has.. Love the high center clearance axles on it...
I was thinking of going the Berg route before this info came out on the Losi.. Now I know which direction I am going... At the past several comps I have attended I have seen about a dozen berg dig switches fry and then there digs are useless...
I am still not understanding though how Losi claims it will not have any torque twist since it does still have drive shafts...
And #2, with a real 4 link setup you can use link geometry to get rid of the rest...
The biggest reason for torque twist is that in the currently available crawlers with a ring and pinion axle, most the the torque multiplication happens in the transmission, so a lot of torque is going down the driveshafts between the tranny and diffs. Since there is a large load on the driveshaft, when the wheels meet resistance, it makes the axle want to twist.
On the other hand with a worm gear design, you can built most of the torque multiplication into the axle itself, so there is very little torque going from the tranny to the diff, so any torque twist is barely noticeable.....
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This will be the ONE to own!....
Yes they took some q's from Kyosho....
Here is how I look at that.........
If I lived in Japan, I would have the kyosho crowler....
But I live in the USA....ans Losi is based here.....
Other thing, the hobby shops will stock parts for this.... They will not for the kyosho....
So if you have the kyosho, you will have to go and bring a tool box with all the parts you need...
That is what I did with my Mad Force.... Still have that one... can be made into a awsome nitro crawler!...
Anyway,.. I guess with anyone of them, you will be mostly ordering from online...
If you are a serious competitor, you will bring your own parts not matter what brand you have!.... so I stand corrected.....
Also mail ordering parts isn't a big deal anymore..... most everyone orders parts from online, and they get to qicker than ever....
It comes down to preference..... I want the Losi..... Inexspensive (for what you get) and that is just enough for me to sway from getting the Kyosho....
Late may realese date!!!! Can't wait!!!...... (I will finally be able to use that 3rd channel on my radio) that I never use....
It comes down to preference....
Yes they took some q's from Kyosho....
Here is how I look at that.........
If I lived in Japan, I would have the kyosho crowler....
But I live in the USA....ans Losi is based here.....
Other thing, the hobby shops will stock parts for this.... They will not for the kyosho....
So if you have the kyosho, you will have to go and bring a tool box with all the parts you need...
That is what I did with my Mad Force.... Still have that one... can be made into a awsome nitro crawler!...
Anyway,.. I guess with anyone of them, you will be mostly ordering from online...
If you are a serious competitor, you will bring your own parts not matter what brand you have!.... so I stand corrected.....
Also mail ordering parts isn't a big deal anymore..... most everyone orders parts from online, and they get to qicker than ever....
It comes down to preference..... I want the Losi..... Inexspensive (for what you get) and that is just enough for me to sway from getting the Kyosho....
Late may realese date!!!! Can't wait!!!...... (I will finally be able to use that 3rd channel on my radio) that I never use....
It comes down to preference....
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RE: Losi's new 1/10th Crawler
Got mine ordered have new holmes hobbies motor momba max everything i need losi is making sure everything is good before sending them out the door looking forward to a present arriving here sometime in the next month and well worth the wait
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RE: Losi's new 1/10th Crawler
I just want it to be able to climb up my stairs in my house!.....AWW...LOl
Honestly though....
the whole idea about rock clibing is to go slow and all.... but...
Why wouldn't you want to do like a power hop? You gas it, so the front end becomes light and it just jumps up the obsticle???
WIth brushless motors and lipos the way they are, wouldn't youthink this could do a backflip with just a full squeeze of the throttle...
Like in the HPI brushless savage video????
Even though I really do like the sounds and smells of engines running.....Electrics are soooooo powerfull it is sick!.... when setup right!.....
When I saw the vids with 1/8 scale buggies and brushless/lipo setups WOW>>>InSANE!@@
Honestly though....
the whole idea about rock clibing is to go slow and all.... but...
Why wouldn't you want to do like a power hop? You gas it, so the front end becomes light and it just jumps up the obsticle???
WIth brushless motors and lipos the way they are, wouldn't youthink this could do a backflip with just a full squeeze of the throttle...
Like in the HPI brushless savage video????
Even though I really do like the sounds and smells of engines running.....Electrics are soooooo powerfull it is sick!.... when setup right!.....
When I saw the vids with 1/8 scale buggies and brushless/lipo setups WOW>>>InSANE!@@
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RE: Losi's new 1/10th Crawler
Performance ********* has em now! I just got mine today. They threw in a set of G8 Chisels for $299 out the door. Man, I love those guys!
http://www.performancerchobby.com/Check em out!
http://www.performancerchobby.com/Check em out!
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ORIGINAL: Gex_61
I just got a text from a hobby shop at the coast. They are setting one aside for me... should be picking it up tomorrow.
I just got a text from a hobby shop at the coast. They are setting one aside for me... should be picking it up tomorrow.
It was worth the 6-month wait; I don't even care that there was a wait. It's as nice as anything I would have expected. I've been carrying the chassis around the house with me all day. After looking through the car and the manual, I don't see how it's possible to make improvements performance wise, and it's just beautiful to look at. It's a Losi too, so I'm already familiar with the shocks and other small design inputs. I do wish I could have put it together myself, but oh well.
Adding it to My Models right now.