Phase 3 EF - 16
03-24-2009, 12:41 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
Hi All,
I’d like to introduce an [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] for the Phase 3 EF-16.
http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm
What could be done in hours is now possible in minutes. The [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] is a drop in aerodynamic enhancement for the interior of the duct in front of the fan. The ESC Fairing covers the wires and sharp edges in the motor compartment while creating laminar flow where it’s needed the most in a ducted fan – right in front of the motor. This should gain you performance and speed across the wide range of motor and fan configurations possible with this aircraft.
Weather it’s a stock motor on 3 cells or one of the high performance setups on 4 cells covered in detail in this thread - it will add speed and performance to an already outstanding performer at next to nothing in weight and installation time.
The mold was machined such that it provides suggested cut lines for an optional oval shaped hole at the rear of the battery compartment and necessary cooling hole cut lines for the stock ESC location.
Hot air from the battery compartment is exhausted through the rear hole and out around the ESC Fairing through the cheater holes. If you choose to close your cheater holes you can use the optional oval hole to exhaust hot air into the fan itself. See installation suggestions on the web site.
The [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] will fit the stock fan shroud and any 70mm setup and is placed between the belly pan and the main fuselage. Used in conjunction with The Cheater Hole Supports it makes for a superb installation setup.
Made from High Impact Polystyrene.
Thanks for looking!
Gary
I’d like to introduce an [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] for the Phase 3 EF-16.
http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm
What could be done in hours is now possible in minutes. The [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] is a drop in aerodynamic enhancement for the interior of the duct in front of the fan. The ESC Fairing covers the wires and sharp edges in the motor compartment while creating laminar flow where it’s needed the most in a ducted fan – right in front of the motor. This should gain you performance and speed across the wide range of motor and fan configurations possible with this aircraft.
Weather it’s a stock motor on 3 cells or one of the high performance setups on 4 cells covered in detail in this thread - it will add speed and performance to an already outstanding performer at next to nothing in weight and installation time.
The mold was machined such that it provides suggested cut lines for an optional oval shaped hole at the rear of the battery compartment and necessary cooling hole cut lines for the stock ESC location.
Hot air from the battery compartment is exhausted through the rear hole and out around the ESC Fairing through the cheater holes. If you choose to close your cheater holes you can use the optional oval hole to exhaust hot air into the fan itself. See installation suggestions on the web site.
The [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] will fit the stock fan shroud and any 70mm setup and is placed between the belly pan and the main fuselage. Used in conjunction with The Cheater Hole Supports it makes for a superb installation setup.
Made from High Impact Polystyrene.
Thanks for looking!
Gary
03-24-2009, 12:52 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
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Hi All,
I’d like to introduce an [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] for the Phase 3 EF-16.
http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm
What could be done in hours is now possible in minutes. The [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] is a drop in aerodynamic enhancement for the interior of the duct in front of the fan. The ESC Fairing covers the wires and sharp edges in the motor compartment while creating laminar flow where it’s needed the most in a ducted fan – right in front of the motor. This should gain you performance and speed across the wide range of motor and fan configurations possible with this aircraft.
Weather it’s a stock motor on 3 cells or one of the high performance setups on 4 cells covered in detail in this thread - it will add speed and performance to an already outstanding performer at next to nothing in weight and installation time.
The mold was machined such that it provides suggested cut lines for an optional oval shaped hole at the rear of the battery compartment and necessary cooling hole cut lines for the stock ESC location.
Hot air from the battery compartment is exhausted through the rear hole and out around the ESC Fairing through the cheater holes. If you choose to close your cheater holes you can use the optional oval hole to exhaust hot air into the fan itself. See installation suggestions on the web site.
The [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] will fit the stock fan shroud and any 70mm setup and is placed between the belly pan and the main fuselage. Used in conjunction with The Cheater Hole Supports it makes for a superb installation setup.
Made from High Impact Polystyrene.
Thanks for looking!
Gary
Hi All,
I’d like to introduce an [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] for the Phase 3 EF-16.
http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm
What could be done in hours is now possible in minutes. The [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] is a drop in aerodynamic enhancement for the interior of the duct in front of the fan. The ESC Fairing covers the wires and sharp edges in the motor compartment while creating laminar flow where it’s needed the most in a ducted fan – right in front of the motor. This should gain you performance and speed across the wide range of motor and fan configurations possible with this aircraft.
Weather it’s a stock motor on 3 cells or one of the high performance setups on 4 cells covered in detail in this thread - it will add speed and performance to an already outstanding performer at next to nothing in weight and installation time.
The mold was machined such that it provides suggested cut lines for an optional oval shaped hole at the rear of the battery compartment and necessary cooling hole cut lines for the stock ESC location.
Hot air from the battery compartment is exhausted through the rear hole and out around the ESC Fairing through the cheater holes. If you choose to close your cheater holes you can use the optional oval hole to exhaust hot air into the fan itself. See installation suggestions on the web site.
The [link=http://morganmill.com/RC/rc-site-10-7-08_029.htm]ESC Fairing[/link] will fit the stock fan shroud and any 70mm setup and is placed between the belly pan and the main fuselage. Used in conjunction with The Cheater Hole Supports it makes for a superb installation setup.
Made from High Impact Polystyrene.
Thanks for looking!
Gary
03-24-2009, 02:34 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
I made my air intake removable on my current F-16, which already saved the day when I had a servo fail. I get paid tomorrow, I'll check the finances, I may buy this unit....it's a great upgrade, and I can get rid of the packing tape in the air chamber.
03-25-2009, 03:01 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
Started putting together my new f-16 today.
Using a HET 6904 fan and HET 2w 23 motor.
60 amp esc. Had to melt away a little foam to get the bits and pieces in.
Using a 4cell 25c pack. Hitec hs65 servos and Futaba 2.4 reciever.
Should be super quick and unlimited vertical [>:]
Using a HET 6904 fan and HET 2w 23 motor.
60 amp esc. Had to melt away a little foam to get the bits and pieces in.
Using a 4cell 25c pack. Hitec hs65 servos and Futaba 2.4 reciever.
Should be super quick and unlimited vertical [>:]
03-25-2009, 03:59 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
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Started putting together my new f-16 today.
Using a HET 6904 fan and HET 2w 23 motor.
60 amp esc. Had to melt away a little foam to get the bits and pieces in.
Using a 4cell 25c pack. Hitec hs65 servos and Futaba 2.4 reciever.
Should be super quick and unlimited vertical [>:]
Started putting together my new f-16 today.
Using a HET 6904 fan and HET 2w 23 motor.
60 amp esc. Had to melt away a little foam to get the bits and pieces in.
Using a 4cell 25c pack. Hitec hs65 servos and Futaba 2.4 reciever.
Should be super quick and unlimited vertical [>:]
04-13-2009, 04:22 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
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Started putting together my new f-16 today.
Using a HET 6904 fan and HET 2w 23 motor.
60 amp esc. Had to melt away a little foam to get the bits and pieces in.
Using a 4cell 25c pack. Hitec hs65 servos and Futaba 2.4 reciever.
Should be super quick and unlimited vertical [>:]
Started putting together my new f-16 today.
Using a HET 6904 fan and HET 2w 23 motor.
60 amp esc. Had to melt away a little foam to get the bits and pieces in.
Using a 4cell 25c pack. Hitec hs65 servos and Futaba 2.4 reciever.
Should be super quick and unlimited vertical [>:]
04-13-2009, 09:57 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
ORIGINAL: skyracer068
The 2W-23 works best on a 5s 2500 25c pack producing 950 watts and drawing 50 to 52 amps. The 2W-20 is designed for 4s use. I'm running both motors in my 16s and both have unlimited vertical.
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Started putting together my new f-16 today.
Using a HET 6904 fan and HET 2w 23 motor.
60 amp esc. Had to melt away a little foam to get the bits and pieces in.
Using a 4cell 25c pack. Hitec hs65 servos and Futaba 2.4 reciever.
Should be super quick and unlimited vertical [>:]
Started putting together my new f-16 today.
Using a HET 6904 fan and HET 2w 23 motor.
60 amp esc. Had to melt away a little foam to get the bits and pieces in.
Using a 4cell 25c pack. Hitec hs65 servos and Futaba 2.4 reciever.
Should be super quick and unlimited vertical [>:]
Here's a pic of mine, which has landing gears and steerable nose wheel BTW.
04-14-2009, 10:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: phippsa3
4 cells is a squeeze.
Dont think i can get 5 cells in there lol.
4 cells is a squeeze.
Dont think i can get 5 cells in there lol.
04-14-2009, 02:15 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
I just got one of these, haven't put it together yet.
What's the consensus on keeping the tailerons from getting ripped off on landing? Is it easy enough to flare and then release before touchdown to keep the leading edge from catching, or is it wise to rig up (or buy) some ventral fins to prevent this? The stuff on the Morganmill website looks cool, but it's hard for me to justify spending $18 on a set of fins for a $99 plane.
Thanks!
What's the consensus on keeping the tailerons from getting ripped off on landing? Is it easy enough to flare and then release before touchdown to keep the leading edge from catching, or is it wise to rig up (or buy) some ventral fins to prevent this? The stuff on the Morganmill website looks cool, but it's hard for me to justify spending $18 on a set of fins for a $99 plane.
Thanks!
04-14-2009, 03:34 PM
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Im tempted now.
What size speed controller was he using?
Im tempted now.
What size speed controller was he using?
With the HET 2W-23 and 5s 2500 mAh, you can expect to see speeds of 145-155 mph with a flight time of 5 to 6 minutes with throttle management.
04-14-2009, 04:06 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
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I just got one of these, haven't put it together yet.
What's the consensus on keeping the tailerons from getting ripped off on landing? Is it easy enough to flare and then release before touchdown to keep the leading edge from catching, or is it wise to rig up (or buy) some ventral fins to prevent this? The stuff on the Morganmill website looks cool, but it's hard for me to justify spending $18 on a set of fins for a $99 plane.
Thanks!
I just got one of these, haven't put it together yet.
What's the consensus on keeping the tailerons from getting ripped off on landing? Is it easy enough to flare and then release before touchdown to keep the leading edge from catching, or is it wise to rig up (or buy) some ventral fins to prevent this? The stuff on the Morganmill website looks cool, but it's hard for me to justify spending $18 on a set of fins for a $99 plane.
Thanks!
04-14-2009, 04:29 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
Hey PKH.......I did not like the fins.. They grab too much and u end up slaming the nose down.
I do what you suggested, just before touch down I release the elevator.. This works nice..
Have fun
I do what you suggested, just before touch down I release the elevator.. This works nice..
Have fun
04-14-2009, 05:40 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
ORIGINAL: -pkh-
I just got one of these, haven't put it together yet.
What's the consensus on keeping the tailerons from getting ripped off on landing? Is it easy enough to flare and then release before touchdown to keep the leading edge from catching, or is it wise to rig up (or buy) some ventral fins to prevent this? The stuff on the Morganmill website looks cool, but it's hard for me to justify spending $18 on a set of fins for a $99 plane.
Thanks!
I just got one of these, haven't put it together yet.
What's the consensus on keeping the tailerons from getting ripped off on landing? Is it easy enough to flare and then release before touchdown to keep the leading edge from catching, or is it wise to rig up (or buy) some ventral fins to prevent this? The stuff on the Morganmill website looks cool, but it's hard for me to justify spending $18 on a set of fins for a $99 plane.
Thanks!
Hobby People doesn't sell just the Belly Pan either - the parts only kit is $64 most of the time and $49 when you can catch it on sale. One rough landing and it's $49 - $64 bucks. You make the choice.
With the Fins installed you can flare the landing a lot more than with out - as you can use the tailirons all the way to touch down.
But hey that's just me and I am bias
Hope this helps and whatever way you go - have fun!
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04-30-2009, 01:29 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
I have always wanted an EDF plane. I think I may have finally decided on the Phase 3 F-16. I do have a question about the 3 different forms you can buy it in from Hobby People. Is the kit with the motor/fan/esc worth getting ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/107312.asp]this one[/link]). Or would I be better off to get the kit with out it and add my own esc/motor/fan setup ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/107311.asp]like this one[/link])? What's a good recommended power set up for this one?
Last question is, what's the difference in the 2 kits, besides $20? ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/109329.asp]cheaper kit[/link])
Last question is, what's the difference in the 2 kits, besides $20? ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/109329.asp]cheaper kit[/link])
04-30-2009, 01:37 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
ORIGINAL: 06sportster
I have always wanted an EDF plane. I think I may have finally decided on the Phase 3 F-16. I do have a question about the 3 different forms you can buy it in from Hobby People. Is the kit with the motor/fan/esc worth getting ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/107312.asp]this one[/link]). Or would I be better off to get the kit with out it and add my own esc/motor/fan setup ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/107311.asp]like this one[/link])? What's a good recommended power set up for this one?
Last question is, what's the difference in the 2 kits, besides $20? ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/109329.asp]cheaper kit[/link])
I have always wanted an EDF plane. I think I may have finally decided on the Phase 3 F-16. I do have a question about the 3 different forms you can buy it in from Hobby People. Is the kit with the motor/fan/esc worth getting ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/107312.asp]this one[/link]). Or would I be better off to get the kit with out it and add my own esc/motor/fan setup ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/107311.asp]like this one[/link])? What's a good recommended power set up for this one?
Last question is, what's the difference in the 2 kits, besides $20? ([link=http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/109329.asp]cheaper kit[/link])
Fly it as stock for a while...get the one that has motor/ESC/fan unit....you can always mod it later.
04-30-2009, 10:55 PM
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
ORIGINAL: crashcrash
Best to see if you can actually fly it before pumping $$$ into it.
ORIGINAL: sanman55
Amen
Amen
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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16
Just finished building my second Phase 3. This one has a HET motor/fan unit in it and I"ll be using a 2650mah 4s lipo.
The stock Phase 3 came in at 25.4 oz. This latest one with the HET unit came in at 35 oz.
Just wondering if anyone has flown one at that weight, what it flys like and how much faster do you need to land.