Adam Bailey

And pedelcast works for SMC?

Adam Bailey

So I just re-read those copies and nowhere is there misinformation? It actually really good info to have...

That basiclly says don't run cheap LiPo's and you get what you pay for, pretty smart info if I do say so, kudo's to that dude

Freezetron

Pedel is the president of Castle Creations

SureToCrash

Well i'm too new to the lipo's to argue, but I swear that is what I read from a SMC rep who posted on thread which I am looking for right now. As far as I know the battery would be ruined and not the esc according to the manual on page 7 under batteries.

Thank you for the heads up, gotta admit i'm worried now so i'll be looking into this further and please keep me posted on anything you may find out.

SureToCrash

SureToCrash

I just spoke to a SMC rep and they stand by their claim that this 18c battery will not damage the esc or battery. He said he personally tested it and they also gotfeedback from HPI that theytested this batteryat arecent Tournement and found it to cause no problems whatsoever.

Call'em yourself guys, this is what they say.

kiddioo

Will SMC warranty any damage done to the ESC from using the low C batteries?

Freezetron

Well heres my current information on this topic

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8822901/tm.htm

SureToCrash

He said thats a possibility but depends on the situation just like every warranty in the RC biz. Like I said though, he claims they recieved positive feeback from HPI about that battery so who knows, I guess time will tell.

I'll give feeback as I get it so stay tuned.

SureToCrash

New news. Now I spoke to HPI and they say do not use 18c it will damage the esc. SMC says its fine and feedback from HPI they say they got was positive.

So who's lying here???????? I'd put my money on SMC but who the hell knows. This thing is too exspensive to screw around with so now I don't know what to do.

Gotta say i'm pissed my lhs says this is fine, don't worry. I'll be talking to them at some length right away.

I'll give you thenews as I get it because someone must be wrong here.

thzero

HPI does not make the ESC, nor the motor. All the "Flux" ESCs are rebadged Castle Creation (CC) products. CC is your best source of information, and Joe at CC is really very helpful.

black mamba

To the dude running the 18C packs......READ YOUR MANUAL! It clearly states 25C packs. I'd personally run at least 30Cs.

SureToCrash

I'm back from the lhs and I can't say in satisfied at the moment. The lhs assures me that the battery will not damage anything based on the logic that they sold nothing stronger than a 20c lipo to any customers that have yet boughta flux, over a dozen people, and they have yet to hear of a burnt out esc or damaged lipo. The BL expert at the lhs is only using 20c lipo's and has run his truck alot and has yet to have a problem. So basically I don't know what to do now, search forums and you will find many many people using less than 25c without problems so far.

One interesting thing the guy from SMC said was when HPI puts 62mph on the box they actually want people to achieve it so it's not a lie and thats most likely why they say only 3s 25c lipo's, anything less will not reach it. True or not, I don't know.

The lhs will most likely help me out if anything happens due to the fact if it does happen they will have many more esc's that will come back soon due to selling less than 25c lipo's on all their flux sales.

We'll see what happens. I think I'll contactCC and see what they say as everyone seems to be on a different page.Thanks to all for the heads up and replies. I will update if anything worth mentioning happens.

SureToCrash

SureToCrash

Yes I did, and I read quite well. Did you know everthing that is written is not always true?

If there were any 25c lipo's in the city I would buy them.

Freezetron

I HIGHLYsuggest you read my current thread about this

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/foru...smode_1/tt.htm

SureToCrash

I have and am quite unsure what to do, many are using less then 25c. Better safe then sorry I konw,but new lipo's are weeks away and im itching to make this thing fly. lol

Freezetron

Just remember thatYOUCANrun less then 25C, but HPI and Castle have stated its not recommened so it up to you if you wanna play the chance game. HPI will replace your ESC if you fry it, but it will be a lesson learned while you wait for a replacement.

black mamba

Hey, I'm just tyring to help you as are the other guys here. Run those 18Cs and take your chances-that's on you. HPIclearly states 25C (min) is required. Good luck man and by the way, you are now our official under 25C battery pack stress tester. lol

black mamba

You sure about "many are using less than 25C" in the Flux? I don't know of anybody that is and I'm on 4 Savage-type forums. Again, all we are doing is trying to help you out. I'd personally ditch those 18C packs and get some that are at least 25C.

SureToCrash

My apologies, nerves were a little high strung about this. I thank you for your advice. I bought what the lhs had on hand and said was able to run the truck. I will buy better as soon as they are in stock, trust me.

I guess I am the official 18c tester. Stupid to do it? Probably, but I can't wait so lets see what happens.

black mamba

Let us know what happens or doesn't happen.

SureToCrash

Well I just ran it for the third time and did a little bashing and no smoking esc yet. I'm trying to take it easy on it by keeping it under half throttle, and compared to my old revo 3.3 theres much more power even at half throttle! The esc and batteries were only warm after the run and no broken parts thank goodness. My friend had his camera out of course so maybe i'll put the vid up so people can see a 18c can run and jump decently at only half throttle. Not that I recomend it.lol

The Truth

You guys need to CALM DOWN. There is no SMC misinformation here. SMC determines their C rating using a 90% retention under load rating method. Most other companies use 70 or 80%. This means that an 18C SMC could theoretically meet or exceed the C rate of another brand's 25 or 30C packs. SMC has the strictest lipo rating system in the industry. If they say it can be run, I would believe it.

BANKRUPTER

+1 good people and great products out of SMCmy opinion is SMCratings are just that much better than the other guys ... 18Cacross the board is not the same. But if yea want more SMChas that covered too.

Brain and scott from SMCDOuse the 18C packs in thier trucks and have had no issues. These packs won the long jump at the world finals memorial day weekend scoring a Brain this truck here FTW

2500 buck prize won on them lil 18C's ! Truck sponserdand built by Hpisavagefourm



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SureToCrash

Thanks for the replies guys. This is pretty much what SMC told me on the phone and you just confirmed it. Don't forget guys the manual says RECOMMENDED batteries not REQUIRED.

Not that I wouldn't behappier (and feel safer)running better packs of course.

BANKRUPTER

yea just as you run it harder keep a eye on the temps. It will tell you there is a issue b4 its too late. Dont go getting stupid with that 25 pinion too. Its a novelty item 4 sure ...

Run, run hard... Have FUN!