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Just out it right where the book says. I did that on both of mine and loved it. I know tons of people on here did it the same way. Here's the link to a post I did on doing it without the wings on if you have not seen it yet
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_32...tm.htm#4855801
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_32...tm.htm#4855801
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Mines getting closer to completion (and CH Ignitions is sending my ZDZ 50NG back today with the new ignition and CM-6 plug).
Looking through the thread again (for about the 20th time), it seems that pretty much everyone relocated the tank rearwards onto the CG. Any reason I can't do that with the stock tank?
Looking through the thread again (for about the 20th time), it seems that pretty much everyone relocated the tank rearwards onto the CG. Any reason I can't do that with the stock tank?
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ORIGINAL: maineflyer
I balanced mine based on bubba's method and it is on the numbers. Flies very well at that CG
I balanced mine based on bubba's method and it is on the numbers. Flies very well at that CG
Same here, Wouldnt change a thing!!
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Any reason I can't do that with the stock tank?
Any reason I can't do that with the stock tank?
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I got one of these when they first came out & flew it with a ZDZ 50. On the 2nd flight I had a deadstick while leaving the runway (about 10' off the ground) and bashed up the front end but other then that no damage to the plane. I'm home on disability now & decided to get some of my hanger queens back in the air including this one. New fuse arrived yesterday & I am hoping to have her in the air before long. This time the power will be a chinese 50cc that has been laying around a while, can't remember the manufacturer.
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I got one of these when they first came out & flew it with a ZDZ 50. On the 2nd flight I had a deadstick while leaving the runway (about 10' off the ground) and bashed up the front end but other then that no damage to the plane. I'm home on disability now & decided to get some of my hanger queens back in the air including this one. New fuse arrived yesterday & I am hoping to have her in the air before long. This time the power will be a chinese 50cc that has been laying around a while, can't remember the manufacturer.
I got one of these when they first came out & flew it with a ZDZ 50. On the 2nd flight I had a deadstick while leaving the runway (about 10' off the ground) and bashed up the front end but other then that no damage to the plane. I'm home on disability now & decided to get some of my hanger queens back in the air including this one. New fuse arrived yesterday & I am hoping to have her in the air before long. This time the power will be a chinese 50cc that has been laying around a while, can't remember the manufacturer.
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Yeah, ain't that the truth. This one is nice & light, came with the muffler & a Walbro carb (rear induction like the DA & ZDZ). The jug is blue anodized. Its a good looking little engine actually.
Spent the day salvaging the tail group from the old fuse. I couldn't believe Tower charged only 99.00 for the fuse but wanted 69.99 for the tail group. I have limited finds right now so I decided to recover the tail from the old fuse. I was successful but it took most of the day. I think I could have built one from scratch just about as quickly. Transferred the landing gear, painted the cockpit, installed a pilot, built a nice dash panel & attached the canopy. in between working on the Ulti I was also putting my sons Twist 60 fuse back together since he snapped her in two trying something a little to close to the ground. After that I was pretty well shot. Tomorrow I'll figure out the mounting points for the engine & attach the tail group.
Spent the day salvaging the tail group from the old fuse. I couldn't believe Tower charged only 99.00 for the fuse but wanted 69.99 for the tail group. I have limited finds right now so I decided to recover the tail from the old fuse. I was successful but it took most of the day. I think I could have built one from scratch just about as quickly. Transferred the landing gear, painted the cockpit, installed a pilot, built a nice dash panel & attached the canopy. in between working on the Ulti I was also putting my sons Twist 60 fuse back together since he snapped her in two trying something a little to close to the ground. After that I was pretty well shot. Tomorrow I'll figure out the mounting points for the engine & attach the tail group.
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A few progress pix - this bird might fly in my lifetime yet. With input from Zeeb and Keary (THANKS!!!!) I figured out a manual choke (ZDZ 50's are not "choke friendly")
Fuel line and vent will go in during tonight's build - who put their fuel dot where?
Fuel line and vent will go in during tonight's build - who put their fuel dot where?
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hey all! I hate to ask redundent questions but this thread is way to long to go all the way back throuh to find my answers! I am currently looking to buy one of these bipes and I'm looking for opinions on gas engines.
I am not a 3D pilot, and I dont hover although I do like to have lots of vertical preformance, just not that much. I am looking into the DLE 55, a Zenoah G-38, and a CRRC Pro 40cc.
DA and 3W are just a little to much for me although I know they are probably the best.
I am leaning towrds the G-38 cause I like zenoah and the CRRC 40cc becuase of the price.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
James
I am not a 3D pilot, and I dont hover although I do like to have lots of vertical preformance, just not that much. I am looking into the DLE 55, a Zenoah G-38, and a CRRC Pro 40cc.
DA and 3W are just a little to much for me although I know they are probably the best.
I am leaning towrds the G-38 cause I like zenoah and the CRRC 40cc becuase of the price.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
James
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Think also about what the next plane your engine will go into - not just this bipe. If you get the DLE-55 or a DA-50 you can step up to a larger airframe later. If you buy the smaller engines they will be limited to smaller airframes. I bought a Brillelli 46 and have that issue now with that engine.
I had a DA-50 in my Bipe and the plane flew great. There is no weight issue. Unfortuanately, I just smashed up my Bipe this weekend. I think my CA hinges on the starboard elevator pulled out - but it is hard to tell from the carnage. The stabalizer and th elevator were in good shape and the hinges were pulled out very clean. Anyway, with my DA-50, I am in a great position to choose my next plane. My B46 is a different matter. I must choose carefully. The plane must be very light and have good wing area and the choices are limited.
Good Luck!
I had a DA-50 in my Bipe and the plane flew great. There is no weight issue. Unfortuanately, I just smashed up my Bipe this weekend. I think my CA hinges on the starboard elevator pulled out - but it is hard to tell from the carnage. The stabalizer and th elevator were in good shape and the hinges were pulled out very clean. Anyway, with my DA-50, I am in a great position to choose my next plane. My B46 is a different matter. I must choose carefully. The plane must be very light and have good wing area and the choices are limited.
Good Luck!
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Give Ron at South East Rc Engines a call. He sells the DLE-55 and it would be the hot setup on this plane! Plus he has great service.
http//www.southeastrcengines.com tell him Brian sent you!
http//www.southeastrcengines.com tell him Brian sent you!
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I might also suggest the BME58. Its lighter than all the other 50s and is smooth as silk. Its the best running engine I have ever seen and will expand your choices even more. With all the gassers I have bought over the years I have never tossed a DA or BME. I can't say that for some of the others.
On another note in these economic times I feel pretty good about supporting the US economy. Not trying to start a political debate or rile up the handbag brigade but we all should really take a look around us.
On another note in these economic times I feel pretty good about supporting the US economy. Not trying to start a political debate or rile up the handbag brigade but we all should really take a look around us.
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Some more progress pictures.
Installed some lite ply for my "super sexy" Fromeco RX switch, Ignition switch and fuel dot
From the outside
Cut the cowl. Outsmarted myself - put the ply spacer on the inside , so I had to re-drill
Installed some lite ply for my "super sexy" Fromeco RX switch, Ignition switch and fuel dot
From the outside
Cut the cowl. Outsmarted myself - put the ply spacer on the inside , so I had to re-drill
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The DLE55 is proving to be a very good engine, like earlier versions of the DL engines. It is also moderately priced, and powerful. The 50/55 has been installed on many Ultimates with great success.
The G38 offers the same thrust as a G26, when both are running their best props, and I doubt highly you would be satisfied with the performance on this plane.
The G38 offers the same thrust as a G26, when both are running their best props, and I doubt highly you would be satisfied with the performance on this plane.
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hey all! I hate to ask redundent questions but this thread is way to long to go all the way back throuh to find my answers! I am currently looking to buy one of these bipes and I'm looking for opinions on gas engines.
I am not a 3D pilot, and I dont hover although I do like to have lots of vertical preformance, just not that much. I am looking into the DLE 55, a Zenoah G-38, and a CRRC Pro 40cc.
DA and 3W are just a little to much for me although I know they are probably the best.
I am leaning towrds the G-38 cause I like zenoah and the CRRC 40cc becuase of the price.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
James
hey all! I hate to ask redundent questions but this thread is way to long to go all the way back throuh to find my answers! I am currently looking to buy one of these bipes and I'm looking for opinions on gas engines.
I am not a 3D pilot, and I dont hover although I do like to have lots of vertical preformance, just not that much. I am looking into the DLE 55, a Zenoah G-38, and a CRRC Pro 40cc.
DA and 3W are just a little to much for me although I know they are probably the best.
I am leaning towrds the G-38 cause I like zenoah and the CRRC 40cc becuase of the price.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
James
I have found trying to call the supplier of an engine will quickly tell you which one to go with.
Try calling Desert Aircraft, then try calling the others. I did, and it really helped me make a disision.
The lilltle bit you save on another engine might be lost the first time you need advice or service. Desert Aircraft's response is stellar, and that is worth a whole lot!!
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I REALLY would like to have a DA but they are just to far outside of my price range, like I said I know they are probably the best but I just cant afford and extra 200 or so bucks for and engine.
I also found this and it is just another option I found. A TOC-53 any know about these?
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/rcmsec/...les.html#_53cc
also with the bigger engines, will 70oz/in digital servos be okay for all but the rudder? I'll use an airtronics 94162 for the rudder at 144oz/in.
I also found this and it is just another option I found. A TOC-53 any know about these?
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/rcmsec/...les.html#_53cc
also with the bigger engines, will 70oz/in digital servos be okay for all but the rudder? I'll use an airtronics 94162 for the rudder at 144oz/in.
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bipeguy
I cannot tell you much about any other those short of the Zenoah or the DLE. I flew a plane with a DLE this weekend and though it had gobs of power, getting it tuned was a PIA. The Zenoah may be a bit heavy for this plane and a biut underpowered. You could also go with the Fuji 43cc. I had one on this plane and it was jsut fine, not lots of excess power but plenty. Your vertical will suffer a bit though
When I had my first one, I had a Brison 3.2 on it and if you can get a hold of one of those, do it. About the same power as a DA50, about the same weight as a DA50 but about 2/3rds the cost and rock solid
I wish I could tell you where to get them. I know the original maker of these engines went out of business and that Kangke took it over but I have not looked for one in a long time (went to 40% planes over the last couple of years)
I cannot tell you much about any other those short of the Zenoah or the DLE. I flew a plane with a DLE this weekend and though it had gobs of power, getting it tuned was a PIA. The Zenoah may be a bit heavy for this plane and a biut underpowered. You could also go with the Fuji 43cc. I had one on this plane and it was jsut fine, not lots of excess power but plenty. Your vertical will suffer a bit though
When I had my first one, I had a Brison 3.2 on it and if you can get a hold of one of those, do it. About the same power as a DA50, about the same weight as a DA50 but about 2/3rds the cost and rock solid
I wish I could tell you where to get them. I know the original maker of these engines went out of business and that Kangke took it over but I have not looked for one in a long time (went to 40% planes over the last couple of years)
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I use the CRRC 50 and it seems to have plenty power, works fine every time. I would have preferred a DA 50 but the price also beat me down and I am not sorry that I bought the CRRC
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Well, finished her up this evening (for the second time). Took a little longer then I expected because evidently one of the wings was damaged a little bit while she was laying around in the garage & I had to re-skin & re-cover a portion of it. Come to find out, the red covering looked darker sitting around in my shop. I went & bought a new roll only to find I already had two partial rolls! Anyways, this time I added some bling to the plane (similar to the stuff I have seen in this thread, thanks guys) and I added flying wires to the wings like the full size plane has. They will serve two purposes. One is to slow the plane on downlines & the second is to help keep the wings from blowing apart. I don't trust the wing joiner & wood to aluminum bond on the top wing. Changed out the tail wheel for a Hague style & the spinner for a Tru-Turn. Power this time around is a RCGF 50 with a Pitts style muffler. Servos are Hitec 5645's with SWB arms. The rudder is set up pull-pull style. It has NiMh batteries, 2000 ma flight battery & a 1400 ma ignition. I dunno what the all up weight is but it balanced with no additional weight & 2 oz. in the left wings for lateral balance.
Sure is a pretty plane, I hope I have better luck this time around.
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Sure is a pretty plane, I hope I have better luck this time around.
edited for spelling
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I purchased a sullivan smoke system for my Ultimate today. I would like some advice as to where to mount the pump and I don't have a connection on the exhaust, so where is the best place to fit a connection
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I noticed a possible problem last night when starting my wheel pants (doing the mod) - the threaded portion of the axle shaft isn't anywhere near long enough for the nylock nut to engage properly. Did you folks find a different axle, use locktite on the nylock, change to a thinner nut and star washer or ?