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THE WC 2009 THREAD!!! its about time!!!

Old 08-24-2009, 03:59 PM
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Hey Guy's, just got a e-mail back from JetLegend, on the street price of the Neptuno. the cost is for the ARF only $1800 dollar's shipped, now if you want it
faster add $300 dollars an they ship it DHL. Check out flight line B, it looks just like a finals
Jarvis and everyone....

The price of the kit is $2000 which includes a $200 hardware package (tank, wheels, horns, axles, wheelpants, landing gear, etc.)... and the price of the shipping is probably going to be over $400 with DHL. I am the US distributor for the kit - more details will follow shortly and anyone can order directly from me. The kit will change with the electric version - it will be a plug-in wing and a removable canopy to allow access to the fuselage quickly and easily. The glow kit weighed in at 4780g with a YS CDI motor in it - very light. As you can see from the pictures the plane is built-up and is very well built. It is glassed and painted as well. Custom color schemes can be done but the cost will be extra depending on the number of colors. I've seen this plane fly for about 50 flights now and the plane flies very, very well... I'm very impressed with the workmanship on it and the way it presents as well.

Old 08-24-2009, 04:22 PM
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TBL will help take care of some of that as well.

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Old 08-24-2009, 04:45 PM
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For those that are interested in pictures... please look at my album at the link below... there are some sightseeing pictures as well but the bulk of them are of the WC's.

http://picasaweb.google.com/DerekKoo...ODoo-cy7nH7AE#

Old 08-24-2009, 08:42 PM
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For those that are interested in pictures... please look at my album at the link below... there are some sightseeing pictures as well but the bulk of them are of the WC's.

http://picasaweb.google.com/DerekKoo...iRzvfb4tDPigE#

I can not open your album. don't know why[]
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Derek's album opened fine for me.

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Old 08-24-2009, 10:51 PM
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Hey Derek, keep those picture's coming.If you can,I need one of those T-Canalizer. I need 2 if they are been sold.
I perfer the CA Model's T- Canalizer,like the one that Jason is using.So let me know if you can get one

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Old 08-24-2009, 10:59 PM
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Derek,

If you can get two... maybe you should bring a few more back... I'd take one.

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Old 08-25-2009, 03:05 AM
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I'd take one also Derek.

C
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Hi,
I've noticed that QQ plane has a pull-pull on elevators.

What's the reason for this?

Thanks
Old 08-25-2009, 05:30 AM
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I'd take one also Derek.

C
I'll keep my eyes open but it doesn't look like anyone has anything for sale here...
Old 08-25-2009, 05:33 AM
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Hi,
I've noticed that QQ plane has a pull-pull on elevators.

What's the reason for this?

Thanks

He is standing next to me... he says it is to save weight.
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Hi,
I've noticed that QQ plane has a pull-pull on elevators.

What's the reason for this?

Thanks

He is standing next to me... he says it is to save weight.
Many thanks Derek for the reply!

May I ask you which kind of servos is QQ using?

Must be two...
Old 08-25-2009, 12:02 PM
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(2) 3421SA for ailerons, 8411SA for rudder, and 9411SA for elevators.
Old 08-25-2009, 01:13 PM
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How's this for a new version of the T-Can... one of the Czeck team is using it on his Spark. It looks like the V-tail from a Quickie racer...
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:19 PM
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How's this for a stick plane... it even comes with its own transport case.

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Old 08-25-2009, 01:30 PM
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OK, I'm bored at work, so I've been playing with the numbers on this web site: http://www.fpam.pt/WCF3A09/Classifications/scores.php I am extremely aware that these mean nothing at this point, but here's what I've come up with normalizing the scores on each panel and dropping the lowest round (which for most is a zero). Keep in mind, although CPLR has won 2 Panels so far, he's way down at 43rd because those are the only scores showing, and I only dropped one round. So here goes, raw scores normalized with no TBL applied, here's your current top ten:

First Name Last Name Panel 1 Panel 2 Panel 3 Panel 4 Total
AKIBA YOICHIRO 0.0000 954.9020 1000.0000 953.8462 2908.7481
JESKY ANDREW 0.0000 930.1961 958.4013 971.2551 2859.8524
BERND BESCHORNER 898.0563 972.5490 966.1501 0.0000 2836.7554
SUZUKI KOJI 900.0397 951.3725 953.5073 0.0000 2804.9196
ZEINER MARKUS 0.0000 907.8431 979.2007 912.5506 2799.5944
ROMBAUT JUAN 0.0000 872.1569 914.3556 912.9555 2699.4680
BUTUZOV SERGEY 0.0000 847.0588 892.3328 931.5789 2670.9706
JUN ZHANG XU 802.0627 905.4902 947.7977 0.0000 2655.3506
WICKIZER BRETT 829.0361 922.3529 903.3442 0.0000 2654.7332
BURBAUD LOIC 826.6561 892.5490 918.4339 0.0000 2637.6390

Before anyone says anything, yes I'm aware of how irresponsible it is to post things like this, but like I said, I'm bored and I got spare time... You'l notice Jesky and Wickizer in there, but Shulman and Somenzini are not, they're way down the list because they only have 2 scores posted on that website. CPLR is 43, Quique is 46, and Shulman is 50. CPLR is currently winning on Panels 1 and 2 (Shulman and Quique have both flown Panel 1), and Quique is currently winning on Panel 4 (CPLR and Shulman do not have scores for Panel 4).

Dang, tried editing to make it readable, but it didn't work...
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Just for the fun

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Seba - The Relief of the Warrior!!!
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:59 PM
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Ouch, Chad Northeast has posted some updates on his blog, it seems one pilot failed the noise test with a Hacker motor!
http://chadnortheast.blogspot.com/20...day-three.html
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Just for the fun

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Seba - The Relief of the Warrior!!!
WOW . . Seba is actually HUMAN [sm=lol.gif]

Cheers, JB
Old 08-26-2009, 07:40 AM
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Some scores from this morning... decent conditions - much warmer and the wind isn't as strong - probably around 5mph now.
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I think the Argentinean pilot who failed th sound test was running a Neu motor not a Hacker. It is also a geared inrunner.
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OK, now the numbers are getting a little more real. TBL still isn't applied and it looks like scores are still missing from two different groups, one on Panel 3 and one on Panel 4. Other than that, this is making more sense... Some things to note, many of the people in the top 31 here also are missing a flight score, so this could easily change (especially Wickizer, he has a very low normalized score on Panel 1, if he can replace that with a strong flight on Panel 4 like he did on Panel 2 he could jump up quite a bit, maybe even top 15). Here's what I have for the top 31:

1 CHRISTOPHE PAYSANT - LE ROUX 3000.0000
2 Quique SOMENZINI 2942.8757
3 YOICHIRO AKIBA 2899.1905
4 GERHRARD MAYR 2897.9677
5 TETSUO ONDA 2885.9914
6 SEBASTIANO SILVESTRI 2885.5041
7 ANDREW JESKY 2850.1204
8 BESCHORNER BERND 2836.7554
9 JASON SHULMAN 2831.0621
10 STEFAN KAISER 2809.2953
11 KOJI SUZUKI 2804.9196
12 MARKUS ZEINER 2790.4506
13 CHAD NORTHEAST 2789.4393
14 HELMUT DANKSAGMULLER 2787.5185
15 BENOIT PAYSANT - LE ROUX 2759.1737
16 MARK RUBIN 2725.9450
17 OLA FREMMING 2724.5618
18 JUAN ROMBAUT 2706.3029
19 LUCA FRIGGERI 2702.1831
20 SERGEY BUTUZOV 2695.5769
21 ULSAMER GUENTHER 2690.8884
22 WOLFGANG MATT 2682.3997
23 MASSIMO SELVA 2662.4005
24 XU JUN ZHANG 2655.3506
25 BRETT WICKIZER 2654.7332
26 BERNHARD SCHADEN 2645.5114
27 LOIC BURBAUD 2637.6390
28 ZHEN DI HUANG 2626.5010
29 LASSI NURILA 2622.2363
30 MICHAL HRACH 2617.9364
31 DANIELE PELLONI 2614.2540


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I am not clear how they are calculating the order.

Are they normalizing each pilot's score for each panel and taking the 3 best for each pilot?

OR

Are they dropping the low raw score, totalling the 3 best and then normalizing from there for each flight group?

OR

Are they going to wait until all the pilots have flown all 4 rounds, drop the low for each and then normalize as a group to get the top 30??
Old 08-26-2009, 10:25 AM
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Is anyone video taping any of the top guys flights to put on You Tube? Derek? C'mon..... Puleeeaasseeee...

Chris
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Well, it's my understanding that they take the raw scores first and run the TBL algorithm. Once that is done, each panel is considered one flight and they are normalized to the highest raw score. The low round is then discarded to determine who makes it to the semi-finals. Like I said, this is just my understanding of the process, and I could be wrong, but that's how I've been doing it (minus the TBL).

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