Seagull Superstar 120. Weak spot repair!
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Well I finally got off my can and finished my electric SS. Used a eflite 160 brushless 10cell lipo. Pulling 2500 watts. Thing should have unlimitted Vert. Plane came in just under 12 pounds with the landing gear mod and the battery tray.
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Been flying my electrics a lot this summer. I finally pulled out the Super Star after some engine flameouts last summer that resulted in ripping off the landing gear (easy repair). I am using a Webra 1.20 2-stroke and it did not like the Slimline pits muffler. I switched to a Bisson Pitts muffler and the engine seems to llike it. Got to tweak it a bit more for smooth transitiion up from idle but so far its running well.
I flew the plane without the cowl to insure engine cooling and protection from a potential nose-over on the intial flights. She flew well with about 1/2 inch up and down on the elevator. With the ailerons on high rate, she rolled 360 before I could blink. Knife edge flight was easy even at 3/4 throttle. Loops were big and no snap tendencies. I brought the plane in for landing after about 8 minutes (half tank left) and she showed no signs of tip stalling at a moderate speed.
Since I am a sports flyer (no 3D stuff), this plane will be a good addition to my hanger. I got offers to buy it from two of the guys at the field as they liked the way it flew and looks very good in the air. I had thoughts of selling it (with my switch to a few electrics) but she is a keeper and will be a plane to fly when I feel like taking out a BIG one.
I flew the plane without the cowl to insure engine cooling and protection from a potential nose-over on the intial flights. She flew well with about 1/2 inch up and down on the elevator. With the ailerons on high rate, she rolled 360 before I could blink. Knife edge flight was easy even at 3/4 throttle. Loops were big and no snap tendencies. I brought the plane in for landing after about 8 minutes (half tank left) and she showed no signs of tip stalling at a moderate speed.
Since I am a sports flyer (no 3D stuff), this plane will be a good addition to my hanger. I got offers to buy it from two of the guys at the field as they liked the way it flew and looks very good in the air. I had thoughts of selling it (with my switch to a few electrics) but she is a keeper and will be a plane to fly when I feel like taking out a BIG one.
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I've been flying mine with a Brillilli 26 (bored out to a 29cc) and it flies great. I do have to keep the speed up when landing or it will drop out on me.........
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Do you know how much you Super Star weighs with the Brillilli, I am thinking of putting mine on it when I get the fire wall replaced. Been flying it with a O.S. 120 AX, which will be hard to beat.
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Do you know how much you Super Star weighs with the Brillilli, I am thinking of putting mine on it when I get the fire wall replaced. Been flying it with a O.S. 120 AX, which will be hard to beat.
Do you know how much you Super Star weighs with the Brillilli, I am thinking of putting mine on it when I get the fire wall replaced. Been flying it with a O.S. 120 AX, which will be hard to beat.
How did the 120 AX pull the SS? I still haven't built mine and am planning on using the 120AX. I saw others use a 120 but nobody that I read used the AX on theirs.
What prop were you using also?
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RE: Seagull Superstar 120. Weak spot repair!
I was flying a 15/10 zinger {if I remember correctly} on the 1.20. It was'nt much of a 3-D plane, but it was more than capable of doing anything that I could get it to do. Slow rolls the length of the field were a piece of cake, with unlimited verticle, It was a blast to fly.
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Had "Big Red" out for the week end and flew it for the first time with the cowl. A quick question about CG. Once I trim the plane for straight and level flight, she track well when inverted with no elevator input. However, it is very sensitive on the elevator when inverted as the slightest "down" elevator results in the plane going up. That is the correct response but it is very sensitive. After a ten minute flight with over a half of the tank depleted, she climbs very slightly when inverted and is more sensitive to elevator inputs.
Does this indicate a tail heavy plane?
Does this indicate a tail heavy plane?
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Had "Big Red" out for the week end and flew it for the first time with the cowl. A quick question about CG. Once I trim the plane for straight and level flight, she track well when inverted with no elevator input. However, it is very sensitive on the elevator when inverted as the slightest "down" elevator results in the plane going up. That is the correct response but it is very sensitive. After a ten minute flight with over a half of the tank depleted, she climbs very slightly when inverted and is more sensitive to elevator inputs.
Does this indicate a tail heavy plane?
Had "Big Red" out for the week end and flew it for the first time with the cowl. A quick question about CG. Once I trim the plane for straight and level flight, she track well when inverted with no elevator input. However, it is very sensitive on the elevator when inverted as the slightest "down" elevator results in the plane going up. That is the correct response but it is very sensitive. After a ten minute flight with over a half of the tank depleted, she climbs very slightly when inverted and is more sensitive to elevator inputs.
Does this indicate a tail heavy plane?
i think your right on if you can get used to it.if you have other planes that drop then you may have problems getting used to it.
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Does this indicate a tail heavy plane?
If you are not into heavy 3D, you will probably prefer the CG 1/2" further forward.
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Thanks Gary and Jim for the replies. I suspected the flight characteristics indicated a rearward CG. This is the way the plane came off the bench with no weights added (hate to do that). Most of my planes require some degree of down elevator for inverted flight so this is somewhat "annoying" for want of a better term. Can I live with it - YES. Will I add nose weight to compensate - YES, probably because don't think this is the plane to invest the effort to perfect my 3D skills. As I have stated, I am a sports flyer who sometimes performs "maneuvers of interest". If the plane responds well to my humble inputs, I go for some of pattern plane aerobatics. As for 3D stuff, I don't think I will ever try them with anything more than a foamy.
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what kind of landing gear is that?
what kind of landing gear is that?
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I have purchased a few light 3D planes (electrics) to burn some holes in the sky when I feel like free styling. I want to use "Big Red" to improve my precision flying skills and perform some IMAC pattern maneuvers. Anyone flying IMAC with the Superstar?
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I don't know about "imac " Iwould have said the first " burning holes in the sky....... I just looked up the imac thread , I have been looking for something to hone my skills instead of just getting in the sky and burning fuel. I have a lot fun with the ss powered with a 180asp four stroke. Does flat spins like no tomorrow, and when all done lands like a puppy. There are two at our club : one flying one under repair. The second one when flying again will have a supertiger 3250 up front. Should be a good combo. Have down loaded a imac sequence and start practice
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I just bought ths Superstar and it came with a saito 1.20 and no servos. Will the 1.20 fly this bird and if so which prop would you use? I am not a 3d flyer but just like to burn holes in the sky.
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RE: Seagull Superstar 120. Weak spot repair!
lazaras, I don't think the Saito 120 will fly this plane with any authority. I am flying mine with a Webra 1.20 2-stroke which has more power than the Saito. I can do nearly any IMAC maneuver but she is certainly not over powered. I would be concerned flying with that motor. It may get it off the ground but may not have good verticle performance.
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hi there you superstar 120 guys. I have a saito 150 i am going to use.. how and where did you put the exit for the muffler? I temp installed engine and it seams to have to go all the way next firewall so prop shaft will stick out of the cowl thanks David vero beach fla [email protected] 772-480-0304
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RE: Seagull Superstar 120. Weak spot repair!
Had the Superstar. Installed a Saito 1.50 4 stroker. Had it mounted sideways w/ included kit mount. Had to use a long piece of brass tubing, hose clamped to muffler tip to get it out of the cowling. Muffler is pretty much centered on bottom of fuse. Just make all muffler nuts are plenty tight. Watch for tip stalling at slow landing speeds. Wing could've been a li'l longer IMHO.