DLE30 rear induction conversion!
04-12-2010, 09:02 AM
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RE: DLE30 rear induction conversion!
There is a well known belief that it is better to treat others as you would wish to be treated. It appears that the folks at DLE may have a different approach. Unless they were workiing on this issue at the same time as Cyberwolf (not unheard of), it doesn't say much for their character or upbringing, and summarizes the ills of the world today. My 2 cents.
04-12-2010, 09:35 AM
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Cyberwolf, please accept my sincere apologize for everything i've said. I didn't mean it and it's not my purpose to getting your mad. I wasn't you, i can't feel what you really felt, i shoudn't say something like i knew you very much.
Sorry again
Sorry again
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Very true slow and steady! Its to bad more people don't follow that example!!! I also agree with
georgewaldrop and cyberwolf in this case. There really isn't any other way to look at it in reality!
I know you knew it was coming Richard but that doesn't mean it makes it any easier to accept
and deal with. DLE wasn't willing to do anything about this issue until you provided all the owners
of the DLE30's with a good solution to our problems.
By then i'm sure they saw their sales fall off on this engine and took a look at what you had
developed and said heres our answer and went from there. Anyway we all know what happened
here so to argue to the contrary is a waste of time!!! Thanks again Richard!
georgewaldrop and cyberwolf in this case. There really isn't any other way to look at it in reality!
I know you knew it was coming Richard but that doesn't mean it makes it any easier to accept
and deal with. DLE wasn't willing to do anything about this issue until you provided all the owners
of the DLE30's with a good solution to our problems.
By then i'm sure they saw their sales fall off on this engine and took a look at what you had
developed and said heres our answer and went from there. Anyway we all know what happened
here so to argue to the contrary is a waste of time!!! Thanks again Richard!
04-12-2010, 11:53 AM
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RE: DLE30 rear induction conversion!
ORIGINAL: Cyberwolf
DLE contacted me and wanted to buy my backplate assembly, I said yes if they wanted to pay for the R&D that went into it, They wouldn't so to make sure they could stop me from making any profit back for all the work I put into this thing they somehow got a hold of one of my assemblies and made what looks to be almost a exact copy.
So tell me where did DLE come up with there 50 its darn near a exact copy of a DA -50 so don't tell me about morality and thievery. As a private owner I can make and do any damn thing I wish to my engine and if others see it and like I have that right to make parts for them. But I don't go out and steal someones work to do so.
No I was not angry just stating facts as I see them. But your assinine post wohenzhuce are getting me that way.
Welcome to the real world of white collar thievery is what you actually mean correct.
DLE contacted me and wanted to buy my backplate assembly, I said yes if they wanted to pay for the R&D that went into it, They wouldn't so to make sure they could stop me from making any profit back for all the work I put into this thing they somehow got a hold of one of my assemblies and made what looks to be almost a exact copy.
So tell me where did DLE come up with there 50 its darn near a exact copy of a DA -50 so don't tell me about morality and thievery. As a private owner I can make and do any damn thing I wish to my engine and if others see it and like I have that right to make parts for them. But I don't go out and steal someones work to do so.
No I was not angry just stating facts as I see them. But your assinine post wohenzhuce are getting me that way.
Welcome to the real world of white collar thievery is what you actually mean correct.
ORIGINAL: Slow and Steady
There is a well known belief that it is better to treat others as you would wish to be treated. It appears that the folks at DLE may have a different approach. Unless they were workiing on this issue at the same time as Cyberwolf (not unheard of), it doesn't say much for their character or upbringing, and summarizes the ills of the world today. My 2 cents.
There is a well known belief that it is better to treat others as you would wish to be treated. It appears that the folks at DLE may have a different approach. Unless they were workiing on this issue at the same time as Cyberwolf (not unheard of), it doesn't say much for their character or upbringing, and summarizes the ills of the world today. My 2 cents.
ORIGINAL: Q500RC
Very true slow and steady! Its to bad more people don't follow that example!!! I also agree with
georgewaldrop and cyberwolf in this case. There really isn't any other way to look at it in reality!
I know you knew it was coming Richard but that doesn't mean it makes it any easier to accept
and deal with. DLE wasn't willing to do anything about this issue until you provided all the owners
of the DLE30's with a good solution to our problems.
By then i'm sure they saw their sales fall off on this engine and took a look at what you had
developed and said heres our answer and went from there. Anyway we all know what happened
here so to argue to the contrary is a waste of time!!! Thanks again Richard!
Very true slow and steady! Its to bad more people don't follow that example!!! I also agree with
georgewaldrop and cyberwolf in this case. There really isn't any other way to look at it in reality!
I know you knew it was coming Richard but that doesn't mean it makes it any easier to accept
and deal with. DLE wasn't willing to do anything about this issue until you provided all the owners
of the DLE30's with a good solution to our problems.
By then i'm sure they saw their sales fall off on this engine and took a look at what you had
developed and said heres our answer and went from there. Anyway we all know what happened
here so to argue to the contrary is a waste of time!!! Thanks again Richard!
Slow and Steady, Well said and precisely what i meant to say!
Amen Q500RC!
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RE: DLE30 rear induction conversion!
ORIGINAL: Cyberwolf
DLE contacted me and wanted to buy my backplate assembly, I said yes if they wanted to pay for the R&D that went into it, They wouldn't so to make sure they could stop me from making any profit back for all the work I put into this thing they somehow got a hold of one of my assemblies and made what looks to be almost a exact copy.
So tell me where did DLE come up with there 50 its darn near a exact copy of a DA -50 so don't tell me about morality and thievery. As a private owner I can make and do any damn thing I wish to my engine and if others see it and like I have that right to make parts for them. But I don't go out and steal someones work to do so.
No I was not angry just stating facts as I see them. But your assinine post wohenzhuce are getting me that way.
Welcome to the real world of white collar thievery is what you actually mean correct.
DLE contacted me and wanted to buy my backplate assembly, I said yes if they wanted to pay for the R&D that went into it, They wouldn't so to make sure they could stop me from making any profit back for all the work I put into this thing they somehow got a hold of one of my assemblies and made what looks to be almost a exact copy.
So tell me where did DLE come up with there 50 its darn near a exact copy of a DA -50 so don't tell me about morality and thievery. As a private owner I can make and do any damn thing I wish to my engine and if others see it and like I have that right to make parts for them. But I don't go out and steal someones work to do so.
No I was not angry just stating facts as I see them. But your assinine post wohenzhuce are getting me that way.
Welcome to the real world of white collar thievery is what you actually mean correct.
To add insult to injury, when they have another product with a documented problem and an individual sticks his head out to design and develop a fix to that problem, they shamelessly copy that as well.
I think this goes to show that some Chinese manufacturers have little understanding of western values and what is good marketing and what is not. Just my 2c worth. [sm=thumbs_down.gif]
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All I can say is I think you guys are the greatest, there has been some very truthfull statements made here, to bad nothing will ever come of it. Just like pouring water on a ducks back it just runs off. These people have a way different mind set and values than we do here in the USA.
Many thanks to you all.
Richard.
Many thanks to you all.
Richard.
04-13-2010, 03:07 PM
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RE: DLE30 rear induction conversion!
Troy built models is selling off their current stock of DLE 30 engines with shipping and a battery eliminator for a great and I mean GREAT price!!
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Troy built models is selling off their current stock of DLE 30 engines with shipping and a battery eliminator for a great and I mean GREAT price!!
Troy built models is selling off their current stock of DLE 30 engines with shipping and a battery eliminator for a great and I mean GREAT price!!
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My guess would be the rear carb version is coming and or they will carry the Syssa 180. I thought $260.00 was a good price, $219.00 including the battery eliminator is well, hard to pass up if you need a 30cc gasser. Talk about beating Tower at their own game! At this price, a Cyberplate is a affordable option for those who want to convert.
04-14-2010, 10:02 AM
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Well Richard says he's out of the cyberplate business of course but it is a great price even if you
purchase one of the new DLE backplate conversions!
purchase one of the new DLE backplate conversions!
04-14-2010, 10:04 AM
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Don't waste any sympathy on them, they're still making money, just not as much...
Don't waste any sympathy on them, they're still making money, just not as much...
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Yep DLE made sure that I would no longer be able to make a dime off my assemblies by offering theres at such a low price.
All I can say is you had best get one now I don't think that price will last for long.
All I can say is you had best get one now I don't think that price will last for long.
04-14-2010, 03:02 PM
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ORIGINAL: PlaneKrazee
Troy built models is selling off their current stock of DLE 30 engines with shipping and a battery eliminator for a great and I mean GREAT price!!
Troy built models is selling off their current stock of DLE 30 engines with shipping and a battery eliminator for a great and I mean GREAT price!!
Any news on the new versions or the RI conversions? Ralph, Jody, TOM? anyone?
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Thought I would post a pic of my Cyberplate conversion on a Clipped wing Monocoupe.Thanks again Richard your work and the parts fit were excellent.
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Here is the first look I have had of the DLE compliment to your work, Richard. It looks as a very close copy, just not as pretty as a machined one.
http://www.sdshobby.com/new-dle30-30...rb-p-1275.html
http://www.sdshobby.com/new-dle30-30...rb-p-1275.html
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Yep I have already seen them and no there not as pretty but also not near as strong. But other than that they should work, providing they will fit there own engine's.
I think of it as more of a slap in the face other than being a compliment.
I think of it as more of a slap in the face other than being a compliment.
