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Old 05-16-2010, 10:24 PM
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Default Great Planes 1/4 Giles 202 Questions

I have read that the High speed futaba reciever won't make a noticable difference, is this true? I have a futaba 10c tx that I will use as well as digital 3152 servo's that I will use in the plane, Im wondering do i go with the hs 8 channel receiver or use a standard 7 chanel 2.4 receiver.

Also I am installing a 1.20 o.s. ax in the plane, what prop would you use, I posted a similar question about engines as I was going to put a gasser in it but after the advice everyone gave me i went with a glow, I hope i didn't mess up buying the 1.2 instead of the 1.6 but I do not want to 3-d the plane, just want it to fly scale and perform well, i understand the plane comes out heavy so i decided to go with the 1.2 because I lost 10 oz of weight by going with it instead of the 1.6fx.

Any other advice would be appreciated for the plane, I have the wings glued together so far and hoping to start finishing up the rest tomorrow night that i can till i get more parts in.
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MAN IT,LL REALLY GO LIKE A CUT CAT WITH A 120 ON BOARD BE PREPARED FOR IT AND YOU,LL HAVE TO LAND IT FAIRLY FAST i,VE GOT ONE AND THEY DON,T LIKE SLOW LANDINGS
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thanks grimmy yeah i'm aware of the fast landing speed, I'm still debating this high speed receiver thing, im not sure if its really worht the money
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Had a Z26 in mine and it flew, and felt heavy. Put the 160 in and it was a new plane.
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flyreel thanks for the info did it build tail heavy or nose heavy, did you have to add weight to the tail after installing the 1.6?
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High speed receiver? Not sure what you mean but I use just about all Futaba 617 receivers (some 607 predecessors) with my 7ch FASST. That includes in a CMPro Giles 202 with a 72" span, about the same as yours. I fly with a OS 160FX in it, and it is totally unlimited in vertical, but slows down pretty nice for landings. Just have to set up low early so I can approach with some low throttle (not idle) and some angle of attack to set down slower and light. The plane is pretty light at 12 pounds. Oh, also the plane is on 6V Nimh to up the torque and speed of the Hitec 645 servos. Jon
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http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXWVF5&P=V

above is the link to the high speed receiver i'm considering bud did some more investigating and found that its not really needed for airplane use,

I am also going to use 6v nimh batts also where did you get yours from jon?

I already have the 120 ax so im going to give it a try but again i think i'll be happy since im not wanting 3d capability.

Thanks for the info jon, ill try to shoot for 12 lbs like your model and I should be in good shape i think

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Dont remember about the balance. May have added a little to the nose. If it had been much I would have remembered.
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There's probably a few talented pilots that with high speed servos might notice a difference, most of us mortals probably wont.

As for the plane, I flew a maiden of an electrified Giles this weekend, was worried after reading the some stuff on the net about that plane but it flew and landed just like any Extra I've flown.
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Brent, I get my 6V battery packs from all-battery.com. No point in paying $20 per pack when I can get them for close to $9 per pack, shipped at that. I just bought 4 the other day for current and future projects. I also have been changing out old packs for these new ones. There are probably lots of online places to get these packs of varying voltage and capacity, but I have used these guys several times and am happy with the batts and quick shipping. Anyway, if your Giles flies like the CMP one, you will be very happy. I think the 120AX should be better for yours than mine because yours has a shorter tail moment which will like the lighter engine up front. My Giles has a very long tail, so the 160FX was good for balancing it with useful weight and POWER! Have fun. Jon
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when did it come out? its not even on great planes site
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when did it come out? its not even on great planes site
This aircraft is six/eight years old, long since discontinued. I recall that you could buy them from Tower for $180.00 delivered. They were heavy and had some stress issues in the wing saddle area. They had a striking covering scheme and looked really super when outlined with 1/16 inch striping tape. At one time there were numerous threads on RCU regarding this aircraft.
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Andy thanks for the advice on the high speed, thats what i figured its one of those deals like a lot of things in aviation

Jon i was hoping you would say that since i ordered some off ebay before and have used them in my 40 size planes without any problems, but I wasn't sure about the Giant scale planes on what to use this is my first giant scale plane so im in uncharted waters for me, I'm thinking the 120 will be perfect for me since im wanting it to fly more scale like.

Bob you are correct my lhs had it sitting there for a while so i went ahead and bought it for 250 prolly a little high but it helped him unload it too also what should i do to strengthen the wing saddle up or will i be ok with the 120?
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what should i do to strengthen the wing saddle up or will i be ok with the 120?
I recommend that you reinforce the four corners of the wing saddle area with tri-stock.
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Thanks Bob I'll do that tonight hopefully, im ready to get this thing going, i got my other parts from tower ordered so they should be here tomorrow or sat. however I'm sure with this big rain coming here i'm going to be busy working so it may be a month before i get to fly it haha oh well again thanks for the advice.
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We've had 4 Giles at are field over the years that I know of and they can be a handful. One fellow had a Moki 180 in his and it was a hot rod but too heavy. These planes are very snappy when you get them a little slow so keep it as light as you can. Another buddy has a OS 160 in his and it does pretty good. I think I'm going with the 160 in mine. Let us know how yours does with the 120.
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I will let you know as soon as i can also where did you get a spinner for yours at ?
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I don't have one yet.
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i found an aluminum one for 22 bucks on tower, it goes on the performance gp su-31, had to look on its replacement parts to find it but its there however it is back ordered so im waiting on that now, I did get the engine mounted last night and hoping to get some of the radio installed tonight maybe.
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What size spinner did you get?
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ORIGINAL: Tailwheel Pilot

We've had 4 Giles at are field over the years that I know of and they can be a handful. One fellow had a Moki 180 in his and it was a hot rod but too heavy. These planes are very snappy when you get them a little slow so keep it as light as you can. Another buddy has a OS 160 in his and it does pretty good. I think I'm going with the 160 in mine. Let us know how yours does with the 120.

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Giles?

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Mr. Mike, I would be happy to maiden yours and get it trimmed and what-not...free of charge!
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I would definitely NOT use 3152s. They are digital, and may have enough torque nominally, but they are a nylon gear train. I personally do not think nylon gears are OK for anything over .60 scale, and certainly not for a 1/4 scale bird with a large engine. Think about Hitec 56xx, or Power HD (several models), or any other metal gear servo. It would be a shame to lose your bird to a stripped servo gear.
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ORIGINAL: wjcalhoun

I would definitely NOT use 3152s. They are digital, and may have enough torque nominally, but they are a nylon gear train. I personally do not think nylon gears are OK for anything over .60 scale, and certainly not for a 1/4 scale bird with a large engine. Think about Hitec 56xx, or Power HD (several models), or any other metal gear servo. It would be a shame to lose your bird to a stripped servo gear.

If the y have enough torque then they are strong enough.
there nothing wrong with a nylon gear train in a servo in a scale aerobat. Nylon gears in the high end servos are glass reinforced with molbdenum disulphide filler to reduce friction. I just would not use it for the rudder. I'd go for a metal gear sevo in the rudder due to the high duty cycle that servo goes through in 3D aerobatics.
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thanks for the advice on the mg servo's but I already have these that came with a couple of 7c i bought during the 2 reciever deal on tower. so im going to use them i'll think about the rudder but I don't want to do 3d I just want it to fly scale thanks for the concern and advice

I have got all the parts now and the plane half finished all i need now is a break but that will be probably a month from now, cropdusting is unfortunately a daylight to dark affair, which is not good for model airplane hobby oh well it'll slow down in a month enough to sneek in a few flights in the afternoons once i get a rain to finish putting the thing together, ill post pics of it when i get done with her and how she flies as well with teh 120ax
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Your so funny James.


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