AZ_Flyer

This is real sad:

I really didn't mean to intrude on your forums here and intended nothing harmful to your forums or it's membership. MAF is simply another forum venue that offers some of the same info and maybe some new info to the avid RC and Control-line flyers world wide. I really find it hard to believe that you would think that your membership is so narrow-minded that they can ONLY visit your forums for all their information. MAF is NOT trying to compete with RCU for anything. We are trying to offer your membership another forum venue to view that may have something of value or interest for them that you, with all of your knowledge and cover it all aspect, just might have missed.
If you took the time to look at our forum policies and rules, you'd find that we follow along similar guidelines as RCU. We want to offer our membership the best and most informative experience online when they visit ModelAviator.org. MAF also firmly believes that a person CAN belong to more than ONE forum venue without a conflict of interest. I seriously believe you need to give your membership more credit for their ability to think and do for themselves with what their wanting in the way of enjoyment and information.

By the way, RCU is more than welcome to visit MAF and post your info anytime you like. MAF wants to believe our membership would benefit from having RCU available to view and visit anytime they choose to do so! Our doors are open to all who respect their fellow members and guests and RCU members and guests are always welcome.

...but then again, RCU Administration has everything, knows everything, and offers it ALL...why go anywhere else, RIGHT?

Sorry to have intruded, but it's Really sad...

khodges

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What's sad is your naivete in thinking that RCU members don't already visit other forums for conversation, information, etc. I for one am a member of four other aviation related forums, although I have been on RCU the longest and consider it the best in terms of the broadness of its scope relating to r/c. I'm sure I am not unique in this respect, nor do I consider myself in the least narrow-minded.

AZ_Flyer

khodges...I agree with you 100%! I do believe you missed the importance of the post...what was said if you really READ the post is that RCU administration needs to change it's views of it's membership. MAF always respects and values it's members and guests opinions, views, and ideas until the individual deems themselves otherwise! This had nothing to do with the way I or MAF personally thinks of you. Sorry you took it that way. Do me a favor and re-read the post again and this time READ it with you as an individual in mind and not as a forum poster.

Thanks for your responce and always remember at modelaviator.org you will always be treated with the respect and courtesy that you deserve...ALWAYS!

depfife

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Maybe you have misinterpreted the rule.

RCU knows there are lots of options and that many use multiple RC forums. Links to specific threads on other sites are allowed, as long as it provides information on a RC related topic. What is not allowed is links to the home page of other forums or links that are posted as an advertisement for other forums.

RCU is a fun place for us to talk about our hobby and it is also a great resource of RC information. In addition to this, it is also a business. As a business it, understandably I think, has no interest in becoming an advertising board for its competition. While MAF may have no desire to compete, by being a RC forum, that is what it does. I am sure WalMart knows some of its customers also shop at Target, but would you expect them to allow Target to post ads on WalMart windows?

Red Scholefield

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I think that I will stick with a forum that has more than 10 members. And when I read snide remarks like this one, "...but then again, RCU Administration has everything, knows everything, and offers it ALL...why go anywhere else, RIGHT? " I see an underlying agenda that tells me to beware.

AZ_Flyer

Your key word here is competition...MAF is not, and does not compete with anyone. We are NOT a business, we are a non-profit organization that wants to share information, knowledge and ideas...all to help or better a flyers online experience. You are untitled to run your business as you see fit and MAF wants to help by offering your members another place to seek or get info that you may over look in your quest for the all mighty buck. Your members are still YOUR members and if you have done your business right, they will always be your members and customers. MAF just wants to grow and be a NON-PROFIT help to anyone who wants or needs the info or advice to better their flying experience!

Again, RCU is more than welcome to post and share at MAF. We are new and just wanted to help RCU's members and guests broaden their knowledge base to give them a better prospective on their available resources. Plain and simply...we just want to help the model aircraft flyer, as we always have!

Thanks for your response and again...we're not in competition with anyone and we are NOT in the business of selling anything. We ARE into sharing and giving...real sorry you or your administration can't see that or feel threatened by a small non-profit forums such as MAF.

AZ-Flyer

AZ_Flyer

Thanks for your kind words Red. As have stated since my first post, we are a NEW forum and growing. Were just sorry that we don't have enough membership yet for you to want to take part in a forum that might help you in some way. Now who is dealing with the snide remarks? My remarks were in text to make a point about the issue involved...not on a personal level to anyone. When I spoke, I spoke to the Administration not and individual. You are entitled to your views and I will forever respect them. I do reserve the right to disagree but I will never attack on a personal level you or anyone. Shoot, your probably a fellow flyer as myself and fellow flyers do not disrespect other flyers...or so I have always believed.

I respect your response Red but really think you need to work on your diplomacy when dealing on a personal level from your administrative status. Do you speak directly for RCU in your views, thoughts, and opinions when your posting here?

AZ_Flyer

mvigod

AZ_Flyer,

Just as McDonalds does not allow Burger King to come in and hand out coupons or flyers promoting its business neither will RCU. You say you are not a business and I then ask for you to scan and post documentation which shows you are a registered non profit organization. I know a bunch of forums that came on RCU with the same non profit schpiel and today have banners and are businesses. That is fine but we are not the seeding ground for such entities. We openly allow posts with direct links to threads when germane to a topic as long as the information does not require registration. Outside of that we are not letting BK into our Mickey D's to promote. Today you are non profit (will wait for your documentation scan and post on that btw) and tomorrow who knows what you might be.

If you want to promote your forum and your goal is to acquire members (as it appears) then please just do it somewhere else. You have 5 posts here and you have not shared with any members to date except to spam your site here on RCU. No other posts by you at all to answer any modelers questions EVER. If you are about helping people one must wonder why you never helped a single person here to date...not one. That my good friend is what is as you put it "real sad".

AZ_Flyer

NP RCadmin...cute name You win! I won't bother you again. I truly hope you all enjoy the Xmas season and have a great new year!

Thanks for your kind hospitality...

AZ_Flyer

exeter_acres

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Its Christmas... NOT Xmas


Cheers

mvigod

Best of luck to you and happy holidays. Wish you the best with your venture. Should you change your mind and decide to provide those non-profit docs you know where to find us.

MinnFlyer

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And since when is a non-profit organization NOT a business???

RCKen

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Very very true. I have a client that is a non-profit agency (they are a children's home) that has investments that total over $10,000,000!!!!!! [X(]

Ken

AZ_Flyer

MAF does not charge any monies, favors, fees, or duties for any of our services to members or guests. MAF does not hold stock, trusts, or any assets. I run everything, all costs, out of my own pocket because I love doing this kind of work to help people enjoy their flying experience.

Happy flying and thanks for your kind replies!

mvigod

They did a report last week and the average salary for ceo's of non profits was something like 180k!

Scar

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mmm... I'm going to suggest that you have missed a chance to make some friends on RCU. Having read all the posts in this thread (okay, I have no life) I believe I'm on Marc's side of this one, and I don't believe you have any gripe with Red, either.

You can still hang out in forums and offer help & advice as you see fit. I believe that would get you further than arguing rules. And they let you put a message under your signature, some use that for advertising.

Just my 2ΒΆ worth,
Dave Olson

-Inverted-

I will have to say I was a bit disturbed when I decided to visit the Rock Crawler forum. A member "dezfan" had a build thread for a new chassis that looked pretty cool. As I read through the thread I noticed I was not the only one interested, a member asked where he could purchase it. Rock Crawling is a very custom type of R/C, and many users of a certain "rc crawler" forum make their own parts and sell in threads since they don't have a marketplace like RCUniverse. I was a little shocked when he said he couldn't post the link because a moderator had determined he was linking to a competing site.

I understand RCU doesn't want broad linking, but the only way to purchase or get more information concerning the item was to go to the website, and I felt removing the link despite all the interested members a little out of line. It is a competing site I suppose, but we can use the word competing very loosely.

You could say eBay is a competing site of RCU's marketplace, that doesn't mean every eBay link is removed. I guess I felt the need to speak upon this because I frequent the 18th scale forum the most and I always see posts linking to One18th without them being deleted.

I love RCUniverse, but I don't think doing as stated shouldn't be allowed. He wasn't saying come join this forum, it's better; he just was providing information for forum members.

Anyone have any insight?

-Inverted-

dezfan

I know and understand the the reasoning for RCU not wanting links posted to "competing" sites.

However the link I posted was as described, merely to inform the member who requested information on were they could get the part in question.

It's not the first time it has happened to me and I must admit that my response was out of frustration on my part.

I'm not shopping for new members here at RCU. RCC has established itself as the premier crawling site on the net and doesn't need my help in the persuit of new members.

I just think that the MODS are being over zealous in the policing of this rule as it applies to the crawling forum. If the information was available here on RCU, I would gladly direct inquiring members to it.

Thanks Inverted.

Dez

mvigod

Most links in response to member questions (where can I buy this?) are allowed. generic plugs that are not in response to a question that promote another site are not allowed. it depends on the context. we do want information to be shared. we don't want the mfg's plugging away in threads unless specifically answering a request for information from a member. it is just our anti-spam measure. if a post or link was removed in error just notify a senior mod you think a mistake was made