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Old 12-07-2010, 11:00 AM
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Default A beam-mount DLE 35 Band Wagon

I own two DLE 20's, one 30, two 50's, one 100 among other brands. The beam mount 20 impresses its owners including myself.

Please jump in on this band wagon to campaign for a beam mounted 35cc just like the 20cc.
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Old 12-07-2010, 11:14 AM
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I believe every engine from 50cc down should have beam mount capabilities. That would open the door for a lot of new model sizes and types that are very fun to fly. Because you have a 50cc and under gas engine should not preclude you from enjoying profile kits that are a hoot to fly. Nobody is going to be enticed to design and kit a large profile if there are engines that don't easily adapt to them.
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I own two DLE 20's, one 30, two 50's, one 100 among other brands. The beam mount 20 impresses its owners including myself.

Please jump in on this band wagon to campaign for a beam mounted 35cc just like the 20cc.
I would like a standoff mount 35 but dislike a beam mount anything. How about a standoff mount 20?? No company can please everybody.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:18 AM
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I prefer beam mount gas engines because they conveniently mount like regular model airplane engines in the same cheap mounts found in most hobby shops. The fore and aft position of the engine can be easily changed by sliding it on the mounts. There are no engine mounting tabs to break off due to improper mounting, crashes or poor metallurgy. The short lug mounts on the engines are strong.

Maybe I'm just a creature of habit. I started building engine powered models when the transition from ignition (gas) engines to glow engines was taking place and almost every engine I've owned has had beam mounts. Even little .049 engines had beam mounts. So now we've come full circle and ignition engines are back in the form of big hunks of iron to be used on out-sized "model" airplanes that require a different method of joining them together.
I'm hoping that manufacturers of smaller gas engines will keep beam mounts, AND threaded prop shafts to allow the use of prop nuts.

The pictures show three different engines beam mounted on the same model.
Those black composite motor mounts work very well for little bitty engines and engines up to 35cc. I can't speak for engines any larger than 35cc and don't intend to build any models that require anything bigger.
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Default RE: A beam-mount DLE 35 Band Wagon

I agree. I have been looking for a beam gasser for my 80 inch omp profile. Right now the only one I can find is the evolution 40. Which would be nice but it's 500 bucks without the muffler. I would like to see dle make a 35 beam mount and I am sure a lot of folks would use it.

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Add me to the list of people who would like to see gassers of that size that beam mount.
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I think you can order the syssa 30cc with side mounts.
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I think you can order the syssa 30cc with side mounts.
If so, it is not mentioned on the web site.

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Default RE: A beam-mount DLE 35 Band Wagon

Thought i read it in the pattern syssa thread.
The side rails are on the engine in the mill then taken off ?
Would have to ask Todd.

I fly profile and it would be nice to have more good engines with side mounts.
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It must have been on the other site for I cannot pull up anything about them in the pattern thread?
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I think you are correct, the rails are there but not drilled. I think there is a pic in the Syssa thread with a batch of blocks in the pic with the rails. Not sure what page though.
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Nine down on page three in RC Pattern Flying.
But i do not know page for side mount, lots of info.
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Try this pic...
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Default RE: A beam-mount DLE 35 Band Wagon

There's 57 pages to that one thread. That's 1425 posts to read.

I did a search within that one thread of 1405 posts and it didn't return anything about beam mounts.
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I would like to see a dl35 period, regardless of mount type. I own a dl20 and two dl50's. When the mt 35 came out I got one of those but i had to return it because the build quality was very poor, but I still like the idea of a 35cc engine. To me it would make sense to enlarge the 30 to a 35 like they did with the 50. It is only a 10cc jump from the 20 to the 30 then it is a 25cc jump the to 55. The main reason I think a DL 35 would be better than the 30 is that it could swing a 20" x 8" prop and I have a couple of planes that would peform very nice with an engine that weighs an oz or two more than the dl30 that could swing the 20" x 8" prop.
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Yes, some times it can be hard to find info that we read in the past! Then if i put info in a folder after some time it is to big and still can not find,
Had a good hour and forty five air time today and that is name of the game!
Thanks Tom P
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I believe every engine from 50cc down should have beam mount capabilities. That would open the door for a lot of new model sizes and types that are very fun to fly. Because you have a 50cc and under gas engine should not preclude you from enjoying profile kits that are a hoot to fly. Nobody is going to be enticed to design and kit a large profile if there are engines that don't easily adapt to them.
The 50cc Golden Eagle profile has a pretty simple way of engine attachment for engines not using beam mounts. Check out their manual regarding mounting a DA 50 to that design. Shouldn't take too much thought to modify that plan a little to mount about anything you want to a profile.

http://www.goldeneagleaircraft.com/

Agreed though, beam mount option would be great.
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I agree. I have been looking for a beam gasser for my 80 inch omp profile. Right now the only one I can find is the evolution 40. Which would be nice but it's 500 bucks without the muffler. I would like to see dle make a 35 beam mount and I am sure a lot of folks would use it.








same here,got tired of looking and bought a BME44 for a OMP profile.they weigh 44ozs. that is about the weight needed on a OMP to balance it.watch the market place,they come up for sale from time to time.i just couldn't shell out 500.00 for a Evolution 40.
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Thought i read it in the pattern syssa thread.
The side rails are on the engine in the mill then taken off ?
Would have to ask Todd.

I fly profile and it would be nice to have more good engines with side mounts.
The crankcase block blank is an extrusion that has side rails exactly on the CL. Todd uses the rails to hold the blocks during crankcase machining, then he cuts the rail off, after the cases have been black anodized.

I asked him specifically if the rails could be shaped and drilled to allow rail mounting. Todd stated to me that it could be done as a special order. Call the guy up and request it; I believe that he would oblige for a small fee.

I think I mentioned this very early on, in the Pattern thread
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I spoke with Todd and he does have a beam mount option and is going to send some pics. Like MTK said, just contact Todd and he can get you fixed up on a beam mount 30cc.

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I have a couple of Scott Ellingson's Poulon 46 engines. All have beam mounts and all run great.
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agreed....and if they want to really impress us, start putting the carburetor on the front, where it belongs
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Agree...there is a HUGE void in the market for the 35-40cc gas engine. There are a lot of planes coming out or already out for the 30cc engine, but nothing available in 40cc except mostly the Evollution. I would buy a engine like a DLE 30 in a 40 size in a heartbeat if one becomes available.
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The BME 50 (Echo) has beem mounts and has been around forever. A very smooth running single but not as powerful as the DLE55.
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agreed....and if they want to really impress us, start putting the carburetor on the front, where it belongs






only thing wrong with this idea is that when the engine is installed inverted,the gas always wants to drip out,into the cowl.
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