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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    I have an early version and a newer version.  They both have engine boxes but are slightly different.  Are you sure you are looking at the  correct manual as they have a couple different 540's

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    ORIGINAL: planebow

    I have an early version and a newer version.Β* They both have engine boxes but are slightly different.Β* Are you sure you are looking at theΒ* correct manual as they have a couple different 540's
    This is the manual I have been looking at: http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...000_manual.pdf
    and it is the only Seagull Edge 540 60-90 sold by Horizon, Graves RC, etc.
    I'm only in it for the money...

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    hI-YA-ALL, I see that Chief Aircraft has a "sale" where the 540 is listed at $179 + 13.00 for oversize package.
    It's on a page that says %20 off. That would put the price at $153.00!! WOW if that holds==Great price.

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    I checked their website and the only Seagull plane that has a 20% discount is the SparrowHawk 180 ARF.
    I'm only in it for the money...

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20


    ORIGINAL: RCplanman

    hI-YA-ALL, I see that Chief Aircraft has a ''sale'' where the 540 is listed at $179 + 13.00 for oversize package.
    It's on a page that says %20 off. That would put the price at $153.00!! WOW if that holds==Great price.
    Planeclothes is right, no such critter showing anywhere there.

    Got a link to this deal?
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20


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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20


    Well, that's about 1/2 right.....seeing as how RCplanman was stating it was ChiefAircraft
    that had the 'deal'.

    Maybe HorizonHobby looks like ChiefAircraft?[sm=idea.gif]
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    I’ve had this Edge 540 for about 3 years with a Saito 150. Flew great with loads of power and weight was around 10 lbs. Pulled the Saito and just installed the DLE-20 and it came in at 10.5 lbs. I hope to get it in the air next weekend and see how it performs. Here are a few pictures of the setup.
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20


    ORIGINAL: a1pcfixer


    Well, that's about 1/2 right.....seeing as how RCplanman was stating it was ChiefAircraft
    that had the 'deal'.

    Maybe HorizonHobby looks like ChiefAircraft?[sm=idea.gif]
    Still there is no 20% discount there. My LHS sells it for $175, that's about $186 with tax.
    I'm only in it for the money...

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20


    ORIGINAL: calypso21

    I’ve had this Edge 540 for about 3 years with a Saito 150. Flew great with loads of power and weight was around 10 lbs. Pulled the Saito and just installed the DLE-20 and it came in at 10.5 lbs. I hope to get it in the air next weekend and see how it performs. Here are a few pictures of the setup.
    thats interesting. Where did the weight increase come from since the DLE20 with all hardware comes in at less weight than a Saito 150 with muffler?
    What size battery are you using?

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    I installed all new Metal gear servos all around and added a 6 volt battery for the receiver, also beefed up the firewall and fixed a few areas that needed some attention. I did have a smoke system installed at one time and the plane still few fine and probably weighed about the same as it does now. If the weather looks good next weekend I'll be taking it out for its first flight with the DLE.

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    Hey Calypso21, I will also be maidening mine soon. The build is near complete. Can you please post some more pics of the inside to show the placement of various stuff. Also what is the wire doubler you have installed in the U/C ? Are you using the stock U/C - which seems very weak. I am using the one salvaged from an Extra 260 90. What is the CG point you will start with ?

    My gear:

    DLE 20 with stock CDI from RcEXL
    Prop 17x6 APC
    RcEXL Optokill
    LiFe 2300 with double output - straight to Rx and with 2x!N4001 in series for the CDI ( i have used this on 50 flights with my Extra 260)
    Miracle Twin switch with fuel Dot from SDhobby
    HD Power MG946R servos x 5 and a futaba 3152 for throttle
    FrSky 8 ch. Rx with module on a Futaba 10C
    Bolt on Horns with Ball links on all surfaces NOT the stock plastic ones.
    300 ml (10 Oz) clear fuel tank with 2 lines and Walbro felt clunk.
    Cheers....
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    Sandy,

    I’m using the stock landing gear and I have it reinforced with strong springs to soften the landings. The CG is at 100mm and is still nose heavy with the batteries as far back as possible. Here are a few more pictures.

    APC 17x6 prop
    FMA Direct S3551M - Dual Ball Bearing Metal Gear Servos
    12oz Fuel tank
    4.8 volt 2500 NiMH for ignition
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    Thanx Calypso221....so if CG at 100 makes the nose heavy will it be good to have it at 110 or so ? I am yet to finalise the position of the batt so can set the CG at the desired location. I can also move the engine about 5mm behind.
    Cheers....
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    Seagull Edge 540 60 with DLE20 - My Setup and pics...

    DLE 20 with stock CDI from RcEXL
    Prop 17x6 APC
    RcEXL Optokill
    LiFe 2300 with double output - straight to Rx and with 2x!N4001 in series for the CDI ( i have used this on 50 flights with my Extra 260)
    Miracle Twin switch with fuel Dot from SDhobby
    HD Power MG946R servos x 5 and a futaba 3152 for throttle
    FrSky 8 ch. Rx with module on a Futaba 10C
    Bolt on Horns with Ball links on all surfaces NOT the stock plastic ones.
    300 ml (10 Oz) clear fuel tank with 2 lines and Walbro felt clunk.

    Check out the RPM - 8920 RPM on a 17*6 APC sports prop.
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    Hi

    very nice pic.s, very clean assembly ,................. thats how you do it .

    One question though : what is the wire gauge , on that Miracle Switch ? . Looks good , very time saving .

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    sandyjain,

    Most of it looks very good. Just a few areas of concern though.

    The photo of the (bent) muffler;

    1) First off remove the eng idle stop screw and let your tx control the idle. Can't kill the eng with a throttle kill if the idle screw is blocking the throttle from fully closing. That should be your first means of killing the gas eng, then the ign kill next.

    2) That Hall Sensor pickup wire is gonna end up rubbing itself bare (dead eng). Drill a hole through the alumn eng mount and zip tie the wire down, AFTER wrapping the wire. Your eng came with some semi clear spiral wrap, good place to use such.

    3) What dented the muffler?
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    The "wire gage" is the fuel dot. This is a twin switch with fuel dot from Miracle - shshobby.
    a1pcfixer:all your points have been attended to....
    Cheers....
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20


    ORIGINAL: sandyjain

    The ''wire gage'' is the fuel dot. This is a twin switch with fuel dot from Miracle - shshobby.
    a1pcfixer:all your points have been attended to....
    Hi
    Ya ,................. I know that ,........................... BUT , WHAT IS THE WIRE GAUGE , ( the size of the wire ) ( 20 or 22 )

    Michel

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    I have a miracle switch and the wires are 20 ga red and black twisted.

    Cmptrguy

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    Hi cmptrguy

    Thanks ,............ thats what I wanted to know , good for me , not too small . very nice set-up. Like the fuel Dot with the switches , didn,t know they made those

    Thanks again
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20


    ORIGINAL: michel gravelle


    ORIGINAL: sandyjain

    The ''wire gage'' is the fuel dot. This is a twin switch with fuel dot from Miracle - shshobby.
    a1pcfixer:all your points have been attended to....
    Hi
    Ya ,................. I know that ,........................... BUT , WHAT IS THE WIRE GAUGE , ( the size of the wire ) ( 20 or 22 )

    Michel
    Oop !! I did not understand the question. The wires seem thick enuf - I guess 20 Gage or so...The soldering is also good. Overall build quality is excellent. And makes the job very convenient - 1 opening to be done in the fuselage for all the 3 elements - 2 switches and 1 fuel dot. I take a Y from the Batt - 1 goes directly to the switch and the other has 2 1N4001 diodes in series and goes to the other switch. The 1st switch is for the Rx and the 2nd one for the ignition. Use the charge jack of the 1st switch only for charging the batts. as the other has the diodes in series. It may be better to cut the charge jack wire in the ignition switch - in case you forget in future.
    Cheers....
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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    Hi

    Thanks Sandy ,.... well explained .

    Michel

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    I am planning to set up a Phoenix Extra 330S.

    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMUY2&P=ML

    Was condering installing a DLE 20 on this airplane.

    Have a few queries regarding this

    1) Will the engine be suitable for this airplane? I will fibreglass the firewall, inside of the tail and the LG block

    2) The DLE 20 has the carb in the rear. As per the manual, the throttle linkage should should go behing the engine. However in this airplane the tank is exactly bending the engine. How to work around this?

    3) The manual asks for non-metallic throttle linkaage. How to do that?

    Alternatively, I will put the 120ax on it

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    RE: What Aircraft are you installing your DLE20

    Hi

    Quote : I will fibreglass the firewall, inside of the tail and the LG block

    This is fine , but don,t leave , " pinning " , out , cross grain is one of the strongest assemblies you can have .

    Michel


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