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Old 02-06-2011, 12:30 PM
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Got started in another thread so I figured it best to put it here.
We have been inundated with engines from the exploding Chinese RC engine market.
Here is the list so far, add and edit as needed.

1. DM
2. FTL
3. DLA
4. DMSS
5. RCG
6. RCGF
7. XYZ
8. DJ
9. MT
10. JC
11. 3MM
12. MLD
13. CRRC
14. HH
14. SV
15. DZY
15. YDA
16. DLE
17. TGY
18. SPE
19. REV
20. JBA
21. Red Lion
22. GRPro
23. Turnigy?
Old 02-06-2011, 12:55 PM
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I dont see FPE. It would've been easier in alphabetical order.
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ORIGINAL: STUKA BARRY

I dont see FPE. It would've been easier in alphabetical order.
I know China owns a lot of US debt but to the best of my knowledge they haven't foreclosed on Greenville Pensylvania.... yet, where First Place Engines are made.
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Might be fun to break them down by type. DA clone, 3w clone, Sachs clone. Then break it down by original design. Oops, that would be an empty category.
Old 02-06-2011, 01:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: Whistling Death
1. DM (made by SV)
2. FTL (made by RCGF??)
3. DLA (made by Feio Model)
4. DMSS
5. RCG (same as RCGF)
6. RCGF
7. XYZ
8. DJ
9. MT
10. JC (made by SV - rebranded??)
11. 3MM
12. MLD (same source as SPE??)
13. CRRC
14. HH (another ZJ engine - same origins as RCGF)
14. SV
15. DZY
15. YDA (made by SV for JC Engines for RC Aero??)
16. DLE
17. TGY (Turnigy? A rebrand of FTL??)
18. SPE (Same source as MLD??)
19. REV (Same engine as JC Engines)
20. JBA
21. Red Lion (SV origins??)
22. GRPro
23. Turnigy? (TGY - HH, FTL, RCG)
24. Pte (Pterodactyl ) - another SV engine
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Or even clone of a clone.
Old 02-06-2011, 01:13 PM
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ORIGINAL: Tired Old Man

Might be fun to break them down by type. DA clone, 3w clone, Sachs clone. Then break it down by original design. Oops, that would be an empty category.
Old 02-06-2011, 01:38 PM
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Here is a sorted list:

1. 3MM
2. CRRC
3. DJ
4. DLA (made by Feio Model)
5. DLE
6. DM (made by SV)
7. DMSS
8. DZY (Taiwanese??)
9. FTL (made by RCGF??)
10. GRPro
11. HH (another ZJ engine - same origins as RCGF)
12. JBA
13. JC (made by SV - rebranded??)
14. MLD (same source as SPE??)
15. MT
16. Pte (Pterodactyl ) - another SV engine
17. RCG (same as RCGF)
18. RCGF(ZJ Consortium??)
19. Red Lion (SV origins??)
20. REV (Same engine as JC Engines)
21. SPE (Same source as MLD??)
22. SV
23. TGY (Turnigy? A rebrand of FTL??)
24. Turnigy? (TGY - HH, FTL, RCG)
25. XYZ
26. YDA (made by SV for JC Engines for RC Aero??)
Old 02-06-2011, 01:42 PM
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TGY = Turnigy; The parts  stocked for the Turnigy 52 cc are all labled FLT at HobbyKing.
Old 02-06-2011, 03:18 PM
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An out of that list, The major parts are provided from pretty much two suppliers only.
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So when the next post comes up where someone is asking "has anyone tried the new xxx engine?" we should all be able to say yes, most everyone has since most are the same or similar to 2 or 10 others
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I got to agree with the person who said, most engines that are converted from chain saws ect....are better in qualitythanmost China built engines. But tend to weigh a little more. Capt,n
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Some more brands to the list : B&D engines (same as XYZ ? ) , TMM (next generation of 3MM) ,
And JBA make two gas engines not copied or cloned from any other brand (15 cc and 50cc) : Not an empty category [8D]

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Old 02-06-2011, 07:21 PM
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So JBA is the only Chinese engine company that developed their own engines from scratch?
Old 02-06-2011, 10:39 PM
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Not likely. Probably came from a chainsaw and leaf blower companies design. Perhaps someone finally copied Echo products? Or were the engines simply scaled down from something?
Old 02-07-2011, 05:57 AM
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Not likely. Probably came from a chainsaw and leaf blower companies design. Perhaps someone finally copied Echo products? Or were the engines simply scaled down from something?
I don't know if JBA is the only, but their gas engines are not copied or cloned.

TOM : you're wrong, at least this time.

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Sorry mpascual but you are also not quite right

JBA (owned by the same owners as SK, Kangke, Tigershark, SuperKraft and a few other well known names) manufactures in the same factory as the Evolution Glow engines. A military armananets components factory.

The JBA 50cc Gasser - look closely at it inside and out then look at a Revolution 50cc - of course it could be because there is truth in the rumor that the owners of JBA also obtained the rights to the Revolution product
The JBA 15cc Gasser? - Well - look closely at the glow counterpart - plenty of similarities there too

Not saying they are dud engines because they are not by any means. - just that they did very little R&D of their own.

It will be intersting when Michael (the original "designer" of the JBA 15) releases his "own" new brand of 15cc / 17cc etc around the end of March[8D]

Lets face it, Even the most 100% made in house engines still use pretty much the same principles as the Chainsaw engines, Motorcycle engines and GoKart engines we started from. There really is very little that is new out there.
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According to the owners of ZJ-JN (The manufacturers of XYZ, TGY etc), they also make MT, DJ, B&D and TMM products.

The part I find interesting in that is there is a vast difference between the top end and the bottom end those particular brands !!!!
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3MM Now TMM
CRRC
B&D
DJ
DLA (made by Feio Model)
DLE
DM (made by SV)
DMSS
DZY (Taiwanese??)
FTL (made by RCGF??)
GRPro
HH (another ZJ engine - same origins as RCGF)
JBA
JC (made by SV - rebranded??)
MLD (same source as SPE??)
MT
Pte (Pterodactyl ) - another SV engine
RCG (same as RCGF)
RCGF(ZJ Consortium??)
Red Lion (SV origins??)
REV (Same engine as JC Engines)
SPE (Same source as MLD??)
SV
TGY (Turnigy? A rebrand of FTL??)
Turnigy? (TGY - HH, FTL, RCG)
XYZ
YDA (made by SV for JC Engines for RC Aero??)

That's 27


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But some have major things differentiating them

Red paint, blue anodising, black anodising, Gold paint, black paint etc - on crankcases and cylinders.

Then don't get me started on their packaging - plain brown boxes, foam filled and cut out (actually, I hve never seen an engine packed better than how SPE / MLD pack theirs) foam sheets, cable tied to sheets of cardboard.

Heck the list goes on and on on how different so many of them are
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ORIGINAL: aussiesteve

Sorry mpascual but you are also not quite right

JBA (owned by the same owners as SK, Kangke, Tigershark, SuperKraft and a few other well known names) manufactures in the same factory as the Evolution Glow engines. A military armananets components factory.

The JBA 50cc Gasser - look closely at it inside and out then look at a Revolution 50cc - of course it could be because there is truth in the rumor that the owners of JBA also obtained the rights to the Revolution product
The JBA 15cc Gasser? - Well - look closely at the glow counterpart - plenty of similarities there too

Not saying they are dud engines because they are not by any means. - just that they did very little R&D of their own.

It will be intersting when Michael (the original ''designer'' of the JBA 15) releases his ''own'' new brand of 15cc / 17cc etc around the end of March[8D]

Lets face it, Even the most 100% made in house engines still use pretty much the same principles as the Chainsaw engines, Motorcycle engines and GoKart engines we started from. There really is very little that is new out there.

I don't agree with you.
I'm only saying JBA15 G and JBA 50G aren't clones of anything. You can think they have very little R&D .
Have tou seen , tried or own any JBA50G ? Let me know what chainsaw mount this engine type.
And about engines principles, ALL brands have the same principles.

Regards

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ORIGINAL: STUKA BARRY

I dont see FPE. It would've been easier in alphabetical order.
If that is First Place Engines, they are assembled here in the states.
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On a side note about the JBA 15, Does it have needle bearing on the rod.

Milton
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On a side note about the JBA 15, Does it have needle bearing on the rod.

Milton

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I personally think that these Chinese engine brands are doing themselves a disservice by having such vague and hard to differentiate names.

Another question is the carburettor design. Are they all copies of the Walbro design?


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