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Old 12-09-2011, 08:29 PM
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Yes that will work, the dle30 cap is the same as the PTE cap. The resistor is the issue.
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Yes that will work, the dle30 cap is the same as the PTE cap. The resistor is the issue.
Old 12-09-2011, 09:52 PM
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3136, thanks for the attachment that shows muffler dimensions and for the link to the muffler silencers.
I have seen those muffler silencers in a video on the Troybuilt Models web site where they are called "TBM DLE Engines Silencers". Troybuilt Models also sells the PTE36R but they are out of stock.

In post #125 on page five I show a picture of "muffler silencers" in my PTE36 muffler that were made by a club member. They are effective noise reducers but they cause a considerable RPM loss.

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There are only (2) authorized dealer’s for PTE (1) in USA and (1) in Australia
Old 12-10-2011, 03:24 PM
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Great to hear Mark.

Like the look of the engine.
Have you seen Brian Winches article in Airborne about the silicon tape to tape the muffler with, Should deaden the noise of the hot exhaust gas hitting the thin muffler martial and causing a type of echo effect, the tape basically absorbs the blat noise of the exhaust. You can get the stuff (different name) from bunnings for about $10-14 as well as boat accessory places.

Would be interesting if it would quieten the can noise down any more.

Link below for rescue tape.
http://www.rescuetapeaustralia.com.au/

Regards Greg
Rocketman, don't forget this trick, (it's also called tommy tape), I haven't tried it but it's conceivable that it may have an effect, it would be an interesting test for someone with a db meter.
Try that and opening up your silencers a little.


Mike, don't forget your Euorpean friends http://www.ptepower.com/agents.asp

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Old 12-14-2011, 12:11 AM
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http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/PTE36R.html
Old 12-14-2011, 05:51 AM
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LOL it shows how much TBM knows about the DLE30. They didn't even know you can rotate the carb.
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I just ordered one of these with the canister setup .It will go in a Bill hempel 50cc cub .Ill post updates as it progresses
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Hi Mighty9

Thanks for your order! I will be shipping out in the morning. You might want to go with a larger prop for the Cub? I have a 20x10 Falcon pre-drilled, I could send along if you want that instead of the xoar 19x8? Either way.
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I just ordered one of these with the canister setup .
Which canister setup?
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It's located on my website: http://www.prestostore.com/store.php...4453276#images
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Only problem is I am out of stock! Mighty9 got the last one. But not to worry I have more coming!
Old 12-14-2011, 03:16 PM
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Thanks Mike i have some 20x10 here but id like to see how it flies with the 19x8 and some rpm .
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Great to hear Mark.

"Like the look of the engine.
Have you seen Brian Winches article in Airborne about the silicon tape to tape the muffler with, Should deaden the noise of the hot exhaust gas hitting the thin muffler martial and causing a type of echo effect, the tape basically absorbs the blat noise of the exhaust. You can get the stuff (different name) from bunnings for about $10-14 as well as boat accessory places.

Would be interesting if it would quieten the can noise down any more.

Link below for rescue tape.
http://www.rescuetapeaustralia.com.au/"

A club member tried this tape on a gas engine and it burnt through.
Gas engines run hotter the Glow engines but i guess it depends where you apply it but its expensive to end up with burnt carbon.
Dave.
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ORIGINAL: Rocketman_

3136, thanks for the attachment that shows muffler dimensions and for the link to the muffler silencers.
I have seen those muffler silencers in a video on the Troybuilt Models web site where they are called ''TBM DLE Engines Silencers''. Troybuilt Models also sells the PTE36R but they are out of stock.

In post #125 on page five I show a picture of ''muffler silencers'' in my PTE36 muffler that were made by a club member. They are effective noise reducers but they cause a considerable RPM loss.

Hey Rocketman, have you thought of welding closed(capping off) one of the exhaust stacks? A few of my local club members want my Cub grounded till I reduce the noise. The PTE is very loud, but the power is awesome from this little engine. I thought this might be a solution with minimal power loss.
Old 12-14-2011, 05:56 PM
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I am using this stuff and so far it takes the heat just fine.... even right at the cylinder head/exhaust connection.

http://www.pocketrubber.com/

i dont have any way of doing an accurate before and after db test but i can say it does knock down the annoying high frequencys.... makes the exhaust sound deeper and IMO quieter.

my brother noticed and asked if it was a different exhaust.


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Great to hear Mark.

''Like the look of the engine.
Have you seen Brian Winches article in Airborne about the silicon tape to tape the muffler with, Should deaden the noise of the hot exhaust gas hitting the thin muffler martial and causing a type of echo effect, the tape basically absorbs the blat noise of the exhaust. You can get the stuff (different name) from bunnings for about $10-14 as well as boat accessory places.

Would be interesting if it would quieten the can noise down any more.

Link below for rescue tape.
http://www.rescuetapeaustralia.com.au/''

A club member tried this tape on a gas engine and it burnt through.
Gas engines run hotter the Glow engines but i guess it depends where you apply it but its expensive to end up with burnt carbon.
Dave.
Old 12-15-2011, 01:06 PM
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I am using this stuff and so far it takes the heat just fine.... even right at the cylinder head/exhaust connection.

http://www.pocketrubber.com/

i dont have any way of doing an accurate before and after db test but i can say it does knock down the annoying high frequencys.... makes the exhaust sound deeper and IMO quieter.

my brother noticed and asked if it was a different exhaust.


ORIGINAL: dubs1946


Great to hear Mark.

''Like the look of the engine.
Have you seen Brian Winches article in Airborne about the silicon tape to tape the muffler with, Should deaden the noise of the hot exhaust gas hitting the thin muffler martial and causing a type of echo effect, the tape basically absorbs the blat noise of the exhaust. You can get the stuff (different name) from bunnings for about $10-14 as well as boat accessory places.

Would be interesting if it would quieten the can noise down any more.

Link below for rescue tape.
http://www.rescuetapeaustralia.com.au/''

A club member tried this tape on a gas engine and it burnt through.
Gas engines run hotter the Glow engines but i guess it depends where you apply it but its expensive to end up with burnt carbon.
Dave.
I the AirForce we called that F-4 tape. I might even have some in the shop.
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Hey STUKA BARRY,
If I capped one of the two exhaust pipes on the PTE36cc muffler, the exit area of the open pipe would still exceed the combined exit area of the two inserts in my exhaust pipes. I have considered increasing the diameter of the two inserts in my muffler so as to regain some of the lost RPM caused by their excessive restriction. What we really need is a real muffler with a larger expansion chamber and internal baffles.
As usual, when a new engine hits the market we're left on our own to find a decent muffler that fits.
I'm anxious to hear how well the capping of one pipe works for you.
Old 12-15-2011, 06:19 PM
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Default RE: Has anyone tried the new PTE36R ?

There is an easy solution for the muffler noise etc


Pick up the phone, Call (704) 799 1658 or send an e-mail to [email protected]

Speak with them about the dimensions they (and you) require. Pay some money as they request and you shall have your requirements met.

I have had them make up "specials" for me on a number of occassions and have always been satisfied with the results.
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The 72 twin might be a good engine for a new AJ Slick. The cowling on the 89 inch AJS is 10.5-11 inches wide so the 243mm width would fit easily. When you get them in, please test it with a 24 inch Xoar or Mej prop, because that is what the DA-60 I had used. I will also be interested in the weight when they get in.
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http://www.sdshobby.net/canister-muf...70-p-4137.html

this looks like the onestheUSA dealersells, not sure if they would suit?
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3136,
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... Rocketman, I think the 30cc canister would be too restrictive, the MVVS tuned pipe 3268 looks like a good option, maybe add a little grunt, ...
From the available canister dimensions listed below it appears the the 30cc DLE canister might be one of the least retrictive for a 36cc engine. Is it your opinion that all of them would degrade performance to levels that would be unacceptable to most users?

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DLE Canister:
length = 260mm (10.236 in)
dia = 50 mm (1.968 in)
inlet = 22 mm
outlet = 14 mm

DLE Header:
length = 225 mm
dia = 22 mm

===============================

PTE36R Canister:
length = 228.6 mm (9.000 in)
dia = 47.6250mm (1.875 in)
inlet =
outlet =

PTE36R Header:
length =
dia =

===============================

MLD35 Canister:
length = 225 mm (8.858 in)
dia = 50 mm (1.968 in)
outlet = 16 mm

MLD35 Header:
length = 286.5 mm
dia =

===============================
Old 12-29-2011, 09:13 PM
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Hi Rocketman, you would need to test each one on the engine to determine if they will work well.
Corrugated flex headers will disrupt flow though, no matter what canister it's hooked up to.
I'm considering a soft mount like this http://www.escomposites.com/soft_mount.htmand perhaps one of their canisters, the header is the only issue.

On another matter I was going to fly my extra tomorrow so I thought I would fit the dle plug cap kit I bought just to be safe.
I took a photo of the resistor in question, and I can't say I have ever seen one flake it's surface off like that.
It's good the factory has fixed this in the newly supplied units, however if you have one of the early ones I suggest you change it to a dle cap kit.
Just my opinion, please don't jump down my throat if you disagree.

Happy holidays to everyone !
I got a dremel 4000 for xmas so I'm pleased

Now I am off to part 12 of the jedi's instructions http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_95...tm.htm#9513934
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:37 AM
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My 36 with canister is up and running but i havent flown yet .Its quiet and runs well .Mine wont hand start no matter how hard i try but fires right up with my starter.It holds an idle well and transitions pretty good too.I dont have a tach so i cant give any solid numbers.
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I cut off the the right exhaust stack 1/2 way up and welded it completely closed. I have'nt had a chance to run it yet to see what a noise and performance difference it will make. The weather here in N.C. should be in the 60's Saturday and Sunday with light winds. I'll post the results When I get them.

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