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Old 02-17-2012, 10:12 AM
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Default DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

At the same price, what do you guys think is the best engine? Reliability, ease of tuning and performance?

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Old 02-17-2012, 10:22 AM
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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

I can't speak to the RCGF, but I love my DLE30.  It's only got about 1/2 gallon through it, but it runs like a dream.

Cold (<40 F) I pull the choke, flip it three times, it pops, choke off, 1-3 flips, and it's idling.  I'm VERY impressed.
Old 02-17-2012, 10:48 AM
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I can't speak to the RCGF, but I love my DLE30. It's only got about 1/2 gallon through it, but it runs like a dream.

Cold (<40 F) I pull the choke, flip it three times, it pops, choke off, 1-3 flips, and it's idling. I'm VERY impressed.
+1

Dont have any experience with the RCGFbut my DLE 30 hauls my 73" MX2 like a rag doll. it will pull a vertical for way longer than my skill level allows me to point the plane straight up.

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hello Jeremy,

I bought this engine last summer in oder to equipe my new patern f3a plane. I' m running some tests to evaluate its potential of power and I am very impressed by the results : this engine as much as powerfull than ys 170dz cdi running with 30% of nitro.

for your help find the power and torque curves of the RCGF 32 and some wellkown engines.

sorry for the curves in french but I give you the some translations.

for the torque

for power :

sorry curves are in french, for your helps : reso = tuned pipe ; pot echapement = canister ; couple = torque ; puissance = power ; vitesse de rotation = RPM

http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.ph...902tableau.jpg

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Thanks Stephane.....it's good info.

Interesting that the 32 will rev up to 8.5K on pipe. Prop?

Old 02-19-2012, 11:52 PM
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hello MTK,
props are given in this link
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.ph...902tableau.jpg

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Old 02-20-2012, 03:53 AM
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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

I have about 8 gas engines now. My experience has been simple: DLE...no issues at all. Other brands.....get ready to tinker and adjust. If I have a choice, DLE is the way I go.
Old 02-20-2012, 06:16 AM
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I have about 8 gas engines now. My experience has been simple: DLE...no issues at all. Other brands.....get ready to tinker and adjust. If I have a choice, DLE is the way I go.
That's nice, glad you're happy with them, but it really doesn't help compare/learn anything if you're interested in trying something different/new? I mean, just a couple years ago you could probably have said the same thing about G38's, but that wouldn't have told us a thing about the new DLE's? Just sayin....

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hello MTK,
props are given in this link
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.ph...902tableau.jpg

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stephane
Thanks Stephane,

Stronger than the numbers of my OS33GT on the same or similar props. If the OS33GT can haul an 11 pound airplane around so well, the RCGF should be even better. I think I'll get one to play with

Which header did you use?
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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

well since nobody has any personal or second hand info on the RCGF engines, I will go with the DLE since i know they are good. My new DLE20 runs like a swiss time piece.

I think im gonna get this engine/plane combo. $699
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hello MTK,

I read a great part of your posts on the OS33gt. the problem of power does not concerned the OS 33gt but the use of the hatori header. I explan me: All exhaust chambers ("big muffler") can be tuned and expecially the hatori and for none conical shape the tuned range is very narrow. in the hatori case this header is not tuned and the length is very too small, consequentlly the loss of power can be more than 1000 rpm on the same propeller compared to the correct tuned.

in my case I used the tuned pipe of the webra 145 AAR and a self made header :



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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

ahicks,

For the record I own 2 SPE 43's, 1 G-62, 1 Evolution 35, 1 JBA 15, 2 RCGF 20's, the aforementioned DLE 20's, a 30, and 2 55's, and a slew of glow engines from 30 years of pylon racing. My offering to the OP was one of a simple explanation of my sucess with an excellent engine.

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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

so you are sayin that the RCGF 30 should be a fine motor compared to the DLE30?
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ahicks,

For the record I own 2 SPE 43's, 1 G-62, 1 Evolution 35, 1 JBA 15, 2 RCGF 20's, the aforementioned DLE 20's, a 30, and 2 55's, and a slew of glow engines from 30 years of pylon racing. My offering to the OP was one of a simple explanation of my sucess with an excellent engine.

Best regards.
I think you stated why you like the DLE's much clearer here? I misunderstood your original comment. It sounded like you were running 8 DLE's and were happy with them. Nothing there regarding any other experiences? Sorry...

Regarding my own DLE vs RCGF decision, currently I have an RCGF/Aerovate 26cc I like, DLE 20 and 30's that I REALLY like, and just purchased a rail mount RCGF 20 for no other reason than I was curious, and for what I paid for it, felt it might be a good deal.

If the RCGF and DLE were the same price, I would go with the DLE, from Tower probably. Better warranty and pretty good vs. relatively unknown track record. FWIW




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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

I have the 2 RCGF 20's; one is a side-intake and the other is a rear-intake. The side intake is a screamer on a 16x6 turning over 9k rpm. The rear cannot get past 7.5k but will handle more pitch. I like the side-intake much more.

I have had no problems with the DLE's. Probably just luck, but I get tired of tinkering with engines. I forgot to mention that I also have a CRRC 26 and it has been a real "pita."

Most of the engines are converted industrial engines. Heavy. The DLE is a purpose-designed model engine...light and powerful. I like that!
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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

THe RCGF32 is an excelent engine. In every way its the equal of the DLE 30 or perhaps stronger.

If you can get good back for it I would not hesitate in purchasing the RCGF32
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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

The jc30 is a great engine along with the se32!

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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

well, im going with the DLE30. Thanks for the input fellas. My DLE20 runs like a champ, and the 30 is a great value and im sure i will be just as happy with that as i am my 20. I asked because id like to try something different, but i dont wanna risk it not being good.


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mach2 I have ony owned DLE's I have had a 30 and several DL50's. I never had a problem out of my 30. A couple of fellow club members run the RCGF32 and have had no issues. Power is about the same as the DLE. The only noticable difference between the 2 engines is the RCGF 32 consumes much more fuel that the DLE. Either engine would be a good choice, butt after flying both engines I would pick the DLE30 because of fuel consumpion alone.


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THe RCGF32 is an excelent engine. In every way its the equal of the DLE 30 or perhaps stronger.

If you can get good back for it I would not hesitate in purchasing the RCGF32
One of the guys I fly with has the RCGF32 NIB. Got to see it today for the first time and I must say it is a nice looking engine. It is very similar in construction to my DLE55 in that the crankcase splits apart at the mounting lugs. That speaks to the design similarity of the Chinese offerings so far

For my specific application the sensor is located at 180 degrees which simplifies installation of a nose ring. I soft mount all my gas engines and that type of mount needs a nose ring. The carb appears the same as that used on the DLE55, so that could be where the extra power is coming from.

The weight of the engine including the plug, was just a hair over 33 ozs. Compares well with my OS33GT which is around 36 ozs....The CDI is 1/2 oz lighter than the DLE's too.

If the power is as good as Stephane stated a few posts ago, this engine is likely to be a stump puller like the OS is
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it is very much a stump puller
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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32


ORIGINAL: FullSpool

The jc30 is a great engine along with the se32!
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Got any prop/RPMnumbers on the JC 30?

I recently picked one and I'm getting ready to run it soon. I would like to know how it compares to the DLE-30. I have a DLE-20 that I really like but I got a great deal on the JC and it appears to be very nicely made and the one I saw out at our field ran very well.

What's your 2-cents?

Hope this isn't hijacking the thread since it is still a 30cc question.

BTW - I'm not talking about the earlier JC 28cc

Paul

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Default RE: DLE 30 vs. RCGF 32

I will have some JC numbers this week when mine gets here..Should be interesting...
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Great! Thanks!


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I will have some JC numbers this week when mine gets here..Should be interesting...

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