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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    Isn't free speech amazing? It gives you the right to be annoyed by others!

    I have used other brand oils and Amsoil and will probably keep using it - well maybe, but if I had to deal with this type of Amsoil head smashing advertisement all the time I would probably quit using it.

    JL has made the Amsoil name almost repulsive with the lack of forum etiquette and I might add some sort of weirdness I find rather perplexing in his posts. Why would Amsoil have anyone representing them that cannot use proper tact/delivery in their message?

    I would think there is a standard to be upheld when representing a company like Amsoil. I am sure my perception is wacked at this point, yet somehow I think something is seriously missing here.

    And NO, I am not interested in QuickShot whatever it is for [X(]

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE


    ORIGINAL: jloftin

    Please read this Speed Racer and you will have a better understanding of what Quick Shot does and what i mean about dirty
    ORIGINAL: jloftin

    The reason Amsoil makes AMSOILQUICKSHOT is to clean up the dirty gas that we have been running for years and if you run quick shot from day one the inside of your engine will be very clean and as well as your carb Also you will be very happy with how little carbon build up you will have on your piston and plug !!!!!!!!!!! as well as clean up of varnish and gumming also it helps engine performance and gets rid of the water in your gas that causes a lean burn in you motor Amsoil Quick Shot was made just for 2-cycle engines you will notice all the things that i just told you about as well as quicker starts better running motor better temps

    Quick Shot is not an oil additive it is a gas additive THEOILISNOTTHEPROBLEMWITHALLOFTHESETHINGSTHAT I AMTALKINGABOUT


    THEGAS IS .
    Hmmm That did nothing to answer my question. Now logic tells me that if I'm not having any gas related issues, why would I want to buy something to add to my gas? Mr Loftin as also quite proud of his Chinese built ARF airplanes with tasteful stickers applied LOL. My latest gasser almost finished, note that the Amsoil logo would fit perfectly into the color scheme. Obviouly will never happen. I wonder what would happen if we forwarded a link to this thread to the Amsoil corporate offices? Would they be happy to see how well their products are being represented?





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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    1 ICANFLY
    2 ICANGOTOFLY-INS
    3 IHAVEGASENGINE PLANES
    4 IUSEAMSOILANDHAVEFORTENYEARS
    5 I KNOW HOWTOTUNEMOTORS
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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    Wow that was fast. At least I know the mods are watching this thread closely as they just deleted my post and it wasn't even that bad.
    My apologies. It just seems to me that this is unwanted spam advertising and that was my only point.
    Obviously there are several people here that use this product and it works for them and that's all that matters.
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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    THATSEXACTLY WHATIDOEVERYTIMEIGETSOMETHINGONTHEINTERNETABOUTAMS OIL

    PLEASESENDYOURCOMMENTS TO: ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT OVERMARKETINGANDCOOPERATE SPONSORSHIP
    IFYOUGOONAMSOILS WEBSITEYOUCANFINDALLTHEE-MAIL ADDRESSTHERE. THAT'S AGOODSUGGESTIONIHOPEEVERYONEONTHISFORUMDOESTHATPLE ASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ALSOIHOPESOMEONEHASANYQUESTIONSABOUTOILORGASENGINE STHATYOUMAYNEEDHELPWITH ?????
    GETTINGTHEPROPER OILMIXONYOURENGINESISTHEMOSTIMPORTANTTHING YOUCANDOONAGASPLANE
    ITMEANSEVERYTHINGANDEVERYWHEREIGOTHEREAREA LOTOFQUESTIONSABOUTWHATDOIDOABOUTMIXING THATSWHATTHISFORUMISFORNOTOILWARS NOTNAMECALLING NOTWHOISBETTERTHANWHO ? THISFORUMISINTENEDTOHELPTHEMANYFLYERSOUTTHERETHAT MAY HAVEOILGASORENGINETUNING ISSUES
    THEREASONTHATITHINKICANHELPITFROMTRAINING ABOUT OIL PRODUCTS THEABILITY TOTALKTOOILTECHNICIAN AT AMSOIL ANDTHEABILTYTOTUNEGASMOTORSTHATCANHELPALOTOFFLYERS OUTHERE?????



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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    Isn't this a fuel thread? Shouldn't it at least be tucked away rather nicely over there where if some one is looking for Fuel stuff they can read it?
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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    I'm out friends. While I personally like Amsoil, I can't take this any more.

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    THANXBILLHAVEAGREATFLY






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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE


    ORIGINAL: jloftin

    Why i use AMSOIL products┬* ? ┬* ┬*┬* ┬* I have been flying giant scale r/c planes for about ten years now. The first time i saw giant scale planes was around 2002 i went to a giant scale R/C fly-in in Lebanon TN┬* where i saw many awesome flyers there,┬* Pros then and now !!!!!!┬* most of them were flying Carden planes with┬* DA engines !!┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬* WHEN┬*I┬*SAW┬*THEM┬*┬* ''┬*I┬*WAS┬*HOOKED ''┬* and at the time i didn't know much about any thing that had to do with r/c planes or engines.┬* I did know i wanted to fly them and loved the scale and design of the planes and OOOHHHH┬*YES┬*THAT AMSOIL STICKER┬*ON┬*THE┬*COWL┬*OF┬*JUST┬*ABOUT┬*ALL┬*OF┬* THERE┬*PLANES ??????????? ┬* ┬* ┬* ┬*┬*┬*┬*┬* NOW┬*LET┬*FAST┬*FORWARD 2012┬* ┬* NOW┬*I┬*HAVE THE┬*PLANES┬*I┬*DREAMED┬*OF┬*FLYING┬*!!!!!!!!!!!! ┬* and i have a lot more knowledge about what to use on my planes to make them the best planes i can fly┬* servos , electronics ,covering, hardware, battery's, plane kits. AND┬*YES ┬*┬* ( ENGINES)┬*┬*

    AND┬*THIS┬*IS┬*WHERE┬*THAT┬*STICKER┬*COMES┬*IN┬*TH AT┬*I┬*SAW┬*IN┬*2002┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬* AMSOIL

    I have been using AMSOIL OIL┬*PRODUCTS┬* for ten years now on my Giant Scale┬* R/C engines now. ┬* the engines are two -cycle electronic ignitions motors┬* that operate in ranges from 1:200 to 6:800 rpm with a flying time of about┬* 12 min┬* i use one pack of the AMSOIL SABER┬*100:1 premix packet to a gallon of gas this mix will work with┬* 100cc┬* 50cc┬* 30cc motors┬* and i even break in the motors with this same mix┬* adjusting the carburetor after about three or four gallons of gas through the motor.┬* The reason that AMSOIL┬* is so awesome and easy to use┬* in 100cc 50cc 30cc is that┬* it provides optimum protection at 100:1 when the motor manufacturer has specified a 50:1 or 30:1 mix ratio.

    The reason AMSOIL can do this is ( THE OIL RESIST CONSUMPTION AND EVAPORATION BETTER THAN CONVENTIONAL TWO-CYCLE OILS.THE COMBINATION OF PREMIUM BASE OIL CHEMISTRY AND SUPERIOR ADDITIVE TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS┬* SABER 100:1 TO DELIVER MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE AND PROTECTION IN SMALL ENGINE APPLICATIONS EVEN AT 100:1)┬*

    Saber pro 100:1 is designed for lean mix ratios ,it contains high temperature detergents for small power equipment,┬* 100cc 50cc 30cc┬* it has excellent lubricity and cleanliness properties to control friction and help prevent wear, plug fouling and ring sticking┬*┬*┬*

    ┬* IN┬*SHORT EASY┬*STARTING NO┬*BURPS┬*SPUTTERS┬*DEAD┬*STICKS┬*SMOOTH┬*RUNNING DURING┬*THROTTLE┬*TRANSITION
    COOLER┬*RUNNING┬*LESS┬*MAINTENANCE LONGER┬*PERFORMANCE┬*BEFORE┬*ENGINE┬*OVERHAUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THERE┬*IS┬*KNOW┬*BETTER┬*PRODUCT┬*ON┬*THE┬*MARKET I CHOOSE AMSOIL AS MY AIRPLANE MOTOR OIL FOR PERFORMANCE . QUALITY AND DEPENDABILITY┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*

    ┬*┬* please ask any questions that you have about AMSOIL i have the wright information that you need for quality performance of you oil product┬*

    AMSOIL FLYER┬*AND┬*DEALER┬*┬*┬*┬*JAY┬*LOFTIN┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬ *┬*┬* www.jayloftinyoutube.com ┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬*┬* amsoilj@hotmail.com
    I guess one question about this thread is the oil mix? Does the brochure have a typo? You are running at 100:1 the brochure has you running at 50:1 , big difference in oil ratios.
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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    YES100:1THATISATYPEo THATPLANEHASADLE55 ANDIRUNAMSOILSABER100:1 ANDAMSOILQUICKSHOT




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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    I don't think I would 100:1 in my weedeater........................................

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    [I've been running Amsoil Dominator at 50:1 in my Zenoah and CRRC engines with great results, however, 50:1 is the highest ratio I feel comfortable running. I don't fly competitive events, so I don't need to push my engines to their limits.color=#0000CC][/color]

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE


    ORIGINAL: jloftin

    1 I┬*CAN┬*FLY
    2 I┬*CAN┬*GO┬*TO┬*FLY-INS
    3 I┬*HAVE┬*GAS┬*ENGINE PLANES
    4 I┬*USE┬*AMSOIL┬*AND┬*HAVE┬*FOR┬*TEN┬*YEARS
    5 I┬*NO┬*HOW┬*TO┬*TUNE┬*MOTORS ┬*
    6 I┬*HAVE┬*A┬*REALLY┬*NICE┬*BOOTH


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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE


    ORIGINAL: jloftin

    1 I┬*CAN┬*FLY
    2 I┬*CAN┬*GO┬*TO┬*FLY-INS
    3 I┬*HAVE┬*GAS┬*ENGINE PLANES
    4 I┬*USE┬*AMSOIL┬*AND┬*HAVE┬*FOR┬*TEN┬*YEARS
    5 I┬*NO┬*HOW┬*TO┬*TUNE┬*MOTORS ┬*
    6 I HAVE A REALLY NICE BOOTH


    THANX┬*FOR┬*YOUR COMMENT JAY┬*LOFTIN

    Nooo, he's not selling anything.

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE


    ORIGINAL: Ed


    ORIGINAL: jloftin

    1 I┬*CAN┬*FLY
    2 I┬*CAN┬*GO┬*TO┬*FLY-INS
    3 I┬*HAVE┬*GAS┬*ENGINE PLANES
    4 I┬*USE┬*AMSOIL┬*AND┬*HAVE┬*FOR┬*TEN┬*YEARS
    5 I┬*NO┬*HOW┬*TO┬*TUNE┬*MOTORS ┬*
    6 I HAVE A REALLY NICE BOOTH


    THANX┬*FOR┬*YOUR COMMENT JAY┬*LOFTIN

    Nooo, he's not selling anything.
    Now this is getting fun! If people were using Amsoil they probably quit now. I have a hunch that Amsoil has nothing to do with sponsering JL and if so maybe some evaluation needs to take place.

    BTW how does a 100:1 mix verses a 50:1 verses a 32:1 mix affect cooling properties? I remember doing a test in a nitro engine once by just adding a small amount of Klotz castor oil to a 15% mix and was amazed at how much cooler the engine ran. It was a marked difference.

    I would think that when you decrease oil mix ratio you would to some degree (pun intended) increase heat? Maybe it does not work that way and maybe additional oil makes the engine labor. I have used 100:1 Amsoil yet it seems a tad lean on oil/fuel mix to me as per most engines. Some do state you can use Amsoil in their user manuals.

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    Jay Loftin gives AMSOIL a bad name while trying to give it a good one. Scary stuff :P Anyone can become a AMSOIL "dealer" lol. I doubt there's any sponsorship there.

    I actually do run the saber oil in my DA engines but usually around a 80:1 mix because I like to lean on the side of cautious :P The reason I run the stuff is because a friend and his father have ran the stuff for years in their Chevy's and even tore one down after 300,000 miles to see how it looked and were rather impressed. I still broke my DA in on 30:1 lawnboy. Being able to run 100:1 doesn't suprise my at all. I mean not long ago oil changes were around every 3000mi and now they are pushing somewhere between 10,000 and 25,000 depending on the type of oil used and filtration system.

    As for 50:1 oils I also love to run Belray H1R.

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    Ralph Cunningham, if anyone knows who this guys is ?? Races two strokes and does run them rich on oil. They run cooler and have more power with the higher content according to Ralph.

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE


    ORIGINAL: AJsToyz

    Ralph Cunningham, if anyone knows who this guys is ?? Races two strokes and does run them rich on oil. They run cooler and have more power with the higher content according to Ralph.

    I used to run two strokes in my day-to-day work environment and we always used quality oils and mixed per manufacturer instructions. There was too much at stake to play around with my engines. Normally we had specific size bottles that mixed the exact amount into five gallon gas cans as this made the process much easier. I would mix about 5-10 gallons at each fill-up about twice a week. When I did have to measure I always used just a bit more oil than specs, but not a lot more.

    I found that my engines did not perform quite as well when over rich in oil. I would imagine it does make a difference in the engine application - a dirtbike vs a weed eater vs a chainsaw, etc. One thing is for sure there is a huge difference between 80:1 and 32:1. I think you end up tuning the engine for best performance. If the engine is oil rich you will probably lean it out and changing air misture to perform better to compensate for the excess oil mixture.

    The danger with a 100:1 oil is probably running an engine too lean and would need a more precise adjustment. I don't have the time, however I think this would be worth testing to see the results [8D]


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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE


    ORIGINAL: Gixxy

    Jay Loftin gives AMSOIL a bad name while trying to give it a good one. Scary stuff :P Anyone can become a AMSOIL ''dealer'' lol. I doubt there's any sponsorship there.

    I actually do run the saber oil in my DA engines but usually around a 80:1 mix because I like to lean on the side of cautious :P The reason I run the stuff is because a friend and his father have ran the stuff for years in their Chevy's and even tore one down after 300,000 miles to see how it looked and were rather impressed. I still broke my DA in on 30:1 lawnboy. Being able to run 100:1 doesn't suprise my at all. I mean not long ago oil changes were around every 3000mi and now they are pushing somewhere between 10,000 and 25,000 depending on the type of oil used and filtration system.

    As for 50:1 oils I also love to run Belray H1R.
    80:1 is about where I ran my Amsoil. How long have you run Amsoil in your DA and have you noticed any real differences in temp, carbon, performance, etc?

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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE


    ORIGINAL: matt43

    Okay just have to ask... Has anyone looked at ultralights?? 99% of rotax 2 strokes run amsoil at 100:1 they trust there asses to it! And for those that say well they run lower rpm... The engines at cruise turn 5800.... Just a thought if people trust there lives to it, why not our toys... Also call DA or 3w they say there is nothing wrong with it at all..


    It is puzzling why some user groups hate Amsoil while other user groups trust their very lives to it.

    I've used Amsoil Sabre in my two-stroke lawn equipment for over ten years now and have not had any kind of a problem that I could attribute to using inferior oil.


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    RE: AMSOIL SABER 100:1 PRE MIX SYNTHETIC 2-CYCLE OIL AND AMSOIL QUICK SHOT FUEL ADDITIVE

    The more oil you use the cooler the engine will run. Oil carries the heat away.
    If you use 100:1 you need to cover two basic rules. 1 Proper tuning 2. Proper cooling.
    But of course tuning and cooling rule of thumb goes for any engine.

    If I remember correctly Ralph Cunningham runs all his race engines at 32:1.
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    ORIGINAL: Whistling Death

    The more oil you use the cooler the engine will run. Oil carries the heat away.
    If you use 100:1 you need to cover two basic rules. 1 Proper tuning 2. Proper cooling.
    But of course tuning and cooling rule of thumb goes for any engine.

    If I remember correctly Ralph Cunningham runs all his race engines at 32:1.
    I'm not sure that oil that combusts in a gasser carries away heat quite like the excessive amounts of oil that flow through glo engines. It certainly can't hurt anything though and many tests have proven that more oil = more power. 32:1 for me as I just can't see where using less oil accomplishes anything in our engines.

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    TOTALLY OK ....... MAKES MYWEEDEATERRUNGREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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