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Old 10-27-2013, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ozzieflyer
Well I got one of the Bennet Mufflers, great design, VERY strong, however, on running the same prop as I was brfore on the standard 55RA muffler, I was now at 103 dB at 3 metres, and the RPM's were down by approx 400 rpm. This is with a APC T6 prop (I am racing it in a mustang).Put the original DLE muffler back on, and dB is back to "just" make the limit (98), but the RPM's are back up to where they want to be.
As soon as I started the engine with the Bennect muffler, it sounded cackly and harsh, but the outlet tubes on the Bennet muffler are much smaller than the original muffler, so apart from the actual size of the muffler, I think the tubes are choking the engine.
I have had to go back to the supplied muffler, just hope it holds together.
My 2c worth.
And today my original DLE muffler fell to bits.
20-25 flights max.
Old 10-27-2013, 02:47 AM
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Hi

If I remember correctly , the allen bolts that holt the original muffler are inset , ( inside the muffler ) . What I mentioned to a few DLE 55 RA owners ( myself included ) , is to replace the allen bolts with longer ones , and large washers . . This holds the whole body of the muffler , and stops it from vibrating apart . To date , one member has many ,many flights , and his is holding ip strong . Although it is ,……….. still a very cheap muffler .

Just adding some info .

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Old 10-28-2013, 06:25 AM
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I don't own a DLE-55RA but I noticed that earlier in this thread some one said they couldn't find a Bisson muffler for this engine. Bisson makes strong mufflers that actually do muffle. That muffler option is now available because Bisson shows it on their web site at http://www.bissonmufflers.com/en/muf...ing_id=1138766 .
The muffler looks like the rear exhaust inverted Bisson mufflers that I bought for my PTE-36R 36cc engines. (see photos below)


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Old 10-28-2013, 01:13 PM
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Hi
looks like a very clean set-up ,……… thanks for that info .

Michel
Old 11-25-2013, 07:32 PM
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Any word on the bennett muffler? I've heard 2 opposing opinions
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:46 PM
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Bennett mufflers (really just exhaust diverters) have always been know to be a strong, reliable product but not much of a muffler. They were OK in their day but I feel there are better choices today. I'd try a J-tec as first choice. They actually muffle a bit and are a quality product that will hold together. Prices are competitive.
Old 11-26-2013, 01:47 AM
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Well,,,,
I have the Bennet Muffler, and its really strong, but as Truckracer says, more an exhaust diverter. Very noisy.
Anyway, I bit the bullet after my original DLE muffler fell to bits, and now have a bisson. made just for the DLE 55RA.
A lot bigger in volume, and it is made of thicker material, all of which should help quieten it down a bit, but still allow the engine to breathe.
Had to modify the firewall a bit to make it fit, but its on.

Will hopefully get to test it this next weekend.
Old 11-26-2013, 04:20 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to respond
has anyone experienced a loss in power?
Old 11-26-2013, 04:50 AM
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ozzieflyer,

Is is possible that you could post a picture of your installation with the new muffler? Thanks in advance!
Old 11-26-2013, 06:27 AM
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Your loss of power with the Bennett muffler is probably the result of the muffler having less volume and smaller tubes than the stock muffler.
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I haven't run the engine yet but what you're saying makes sense I appreciate ur time
Old 11-27-2013, 11:26 AM
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I just bought one of these, and plan to do the long bolt trick.

Other than this muffler issue, how do you guys like the engine otherwise?

I have had a DL 50 for years, and it is great. I bought this engine for a Ziroli Stuka I am about to build.
Old 11-27-2013, 05:41 PM
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Has anyone used a canister with this engine? I see a DLE front dump canister kit for $109. With the stock muffler problems I'm wondering if the flex header is of better quality.
Old 11-27-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by vertical grimmace
I just bought one of these, and plan to do the long bolt trick.

Other than this muffler issue, how do you guys like the engine otherwise?

I have had a DL 50 for years, and it is great. I bought this engine for a Ziroli Stuka I am about to build.
I reworked the muffler bolts before I ever flew my DLE-55 RA. I made two bushings that just came flush with the outside of the muffler then used longer bolts and big washers on the back.No problem so far.Only about a dozen flights.Studs would of probably been better.Could probably get bushings from Mc Masters Carr that would be about right.
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:11 PM
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Ok, so we got the muffler thing figured out! ? ......... How does this thing run? Props, rpm,just feel of it in you your latest creation? Compared to the immortal DA 50? Is it worth it? A hunk of junk?
Old 12-15-2013, 04:19 PM
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About how long of a flight could expect with a 16OZ tank. Was looking at Aeroworks clear tanks and they only come in 8oz, 16oz,and 32oz.
Old 12-15-2013, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SU-31 flyer
About how long of a flight could expect with a 16OZ tank. Was looking at Aeroworks clear tanks and they only come in 8oz, 16oz,and 32oz.

I am using the 32 oz tanks with mine. I like to be able to get long flights for the demo flights at events. 16oz is just not quite enough. I think the fuel consumption is around 1oz a min. @ full throttle.

Here is my bolt mod to keep my muffler together. It seems doing this from the beginning, should keep the thing from falling apart.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SU-31 flyer
About how long of a flight could expect with a 16OZ tank. Was looking at Aeroworks clear tanks and they only come in 8oz, 16oz,and 32oz.
Depends on how much throttle you use. If you are the type that uses all of it most of the time, then I'd say around 8-10 minutes. If you are like me and have it in a light plane, then you are mostly at 1/3 to 1/2 throttle and you will get around 15-16 minutes per 16 oz tank.

The other important factor is operating RPM. If you have it loaded down to operate in the mid 6's, you will get more fuel economy than lightly loading it and running it at low to mid 8's RPM.

BTW, a 16 oz tank is what I use, but I fly at 1/3 - 1/2 throttle 90% of the flight time. I get 16-18 min flights
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Thanks for the replys. Thats about what I thought because I can get 20 to almost 30 on my Q42cc's on a Prime Stick and TF Stinson SR9. And I use a 32oz on my BME102 so was thinking 16oz to 20oz. It will be going in the Topflite FW-190 85" span and most of the time I cruse and use full thd. on up lines.


May get the 16oz and 32oz then could switch out if I need too or use the 20oz Dubro I have.
Old 03-17-2014, 01:56 AM
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When you use 20:1 instead of 30:1 for the DLEs? Will you suppose to see any noticable difference in performance?

( just because I prefer to maintain one tank of oil mix instead of 2)
Old 03-17-2014, 12:14 PM
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I thought 32:1 was just fine.
Old 03-17-2014, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kentli22
When you use 20:1 instead of 30:1 for the DLEs? Will you suppose to see any noticable difference in performance?

( just because I prefer to maintain one tank of oil mix instead of 2)
Just my two cents, but 20:1 is a very rich oil mixture. The one thing you may notice is early spark plug oil fouling. Plus, over time the rich mixture will tend to carbon up both the combustion area and top of the piston.

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Originally Posted by Kentli22
When you use 20:1 instead of 30:1 for the DLEs? Will you suppose to see any noticable difference in performance?

( just because I prefer to maintain one tank of oil mix instead of 2)
Not sure why you would want to run at 20:1. As far as I know all dle engines in their manuals say to run at 30:1. So I would say with good oil use 32:1 in all of them.
I think 20:1 may be good for 10 and 15cc gas engines which dle has none.
Old 03-17-2014, 10:56 PM
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I have been using 32:1 for years, and as "thepamster" said, its in the DLE manuals for 30-40 : 1

I went with the standard 32:1 and its been perfect.
Old 03-18-2014, 04:15 AM
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I have a tank of 20:1 for the Saitos, that's why I was thinking to use the same tank for the DLE. But like you guys said, I better carry another tank of 30:1.


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