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Old 01-10-2013, 11:14 AM
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What are your thoughts on using this engine in a Pulse XT 60? Enough power?
It really depends on how you like to fly. The power would be 'okay' for the 60 size Pulse, but awesome for the 40 size Pulse. We did a lot of the original testing using a Saratoga (our shoulder version of the Pulse 40XT) as our test dog and that combination was absolutely awesome. Unlimited verticals, etc so you would see similar performance with the 40 XT. With the 60 XT the performance would be a bit more sedate but still good - it weighs two pounds more.

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Old 01-10-2013, 11:31 AM
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I was leaning towards the 40. This confirms my thinking. I'm looking more for "awsome." . Thanks for the info. Did you have to add tail weight to the Saratoga? Where did you place the battery and ignition?
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I really liked the Saratoga but isn't it discontinued?
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:06 PM
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I really liked the Saratoga but isn't it discontinued?
Unfortunately, yes it is discontinued.

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Old 01-10-2013, 12:27 PM
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Just like the funtana 50. It also would be a good match maybe horrizon might want to rethink about some of the discontinued planes now that they have a good gas engine for then!
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My two cents on what size airplane to engine. I fly at 5000 ft. and use a 26cc for 1.20 airframe, 20cc for 60 size airframe and 15cc for 40-46 size airframe and now I will use the 10cc for 46 -50. This works very well here at my field. Most are a little over powered but I use throttle management to control the flying speed. Jim
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Just ordered mine will try it on a u can do 3d 46 from great planes 
Ill let you guys know  the results. 

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hi everyone when my engine arived i notice that it came with 2 mufler gasket  would it be smart to put both on at the same time or only one and keep the second one as a back up thanks for the info

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hi everyone when my engine arived i notice that it came with 2 mufler gasket would it be smart to put both on at the same time or only one and keep the second one as a back up thanks for the info
Just use one at a time and keep the second for a back-up.

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Old 01-10-2013, 02:54 PM
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Must have hit a homer with this one the local hobby shop GPA Hobbies has sold four this week!
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i dont belive this 10cc engine will fly my tiger60 or any of my 60 size planes i think it will do better in a 46 size
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It will fly your Tiger 60 in the same manner as it will fly the Pluse 60. Very nicely, but not insanly over powered, which seems to "normal" these days.
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+1 for saratoga
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thanks pete for that come back on the gasket. i will keep one for a spare
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i dont belive this 10cc engine will fly my tiger60 or any of my 60 size planes i think it will do better in a 46 size
It depends on the weight of the plane. Some 60 size planes will work fine with it. The Evo10cc engine is a little more powerful than the old baffled piston ,60 engines from the past.So the 60 planes in the past were about the same size as the .45 to .50 size planes of today. But many of the modern .60 size planes are too big though. These were designed for the modern Schneurle .60 engines or larger. Many folks seem to like running .91 glow engines or larger on those big .60 planes too. Many folks tend to overpower their planes as well. So it depends on a person's flying style and what they want out of the plane and engine.


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hi everyone when my engine arived i notice that it came with 2 mufler gasket would it be smart to put both on at the same time or only one and keep the second one as a back up thanks for the info

It may be best to use no Gasket and apply a thin coat of Hi temp sealant...Ultra copper comes to mind. Capt,n
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hi everyone when my engine arived i notice that it came with 2 mufler gasket would it be smart to put both on at the same time or only one and keep the second one as a back up thanks for the info

It may be best to use no Gasket and apply a thin coat of Hi temp sealant...Ultra copper comes to mind. Capt,n
+1 for the Permatex Ultra Copper. Put it on the bolts too
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I haven't mad much luck with muffler gaskets, unless they have a fair amount of surface area to help keep them from blowing out. I would vote for the Permatex Ultra Copper too. Usually the sides are too thin on the gaskets and burn out fast on you. Then the muffler falls off. Plus the gaskets tend to let the muffler move around slightly and work itself loose.

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I've been using both a gasket and ultra copper with gas engines with good success. Gaskets alone... not so much. Too bad they don't make tubes of it in about 1/5 the size as it doesn't take much.
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I fly my XT60 on an Evolution 1.00 it really rocks with some power.

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What are your thoughts on using this engine in a Pulse XT 60? Enough power?
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Any one see any issues putting a pair of these in a Hanger 9 B25?

They will fit the pods, and the pods will fit the Spark controlers. SO I see no issue? YOU?
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Red high temp silicone works great for muffler assembly. And for sealing the muffler internal parts, works best when the muffler is new. Harbor Freight Tools sells the red silicone crazy cheap and it works fine. One problem with using gaskets is that they are not solid enough and with vibration the muffler will tend to rock and loosen. This will hammer and wear on the surfaces.
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After reading all of the post, well most of them, I decided that breaking these engines in on a B25J would be a little much. I purchaced a Tower Hobbies Uproar .40 to mount one at a time and get them in the air. I built one of these for a friend and put an OS .46AX on the nose and it is a pretty good flying plane. I figured the cubin 8's would be a little easier with an acrobat instead of a scale warbird LOL. My plan is to mount them with the Bisson pitts mufflers exaxly as they will be in the B25J. That way there will not be any wierd transistions from upright to sideways. Also the open front end will assist with quicker cooling down when the throttle is at idle on the down wind of the 8's.
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Ok... I've run a tank through it to debug. It started and ran fine but half way through the tank it started to surge as if too lean.... it was.... as the muffler pressure line had come off. I used tygon on the vent line and it fails as the muffler temp is too high I'm guessing. Will not work with a clamp on it either... at least not the size tygon and clamp that I used. And... keeping the pressure line on is important as the needle setting depends upon it.... it goes lean without and required a half turn or so to richen adequately.

Some good news was that I used copper silicone on the muffler when putting it together and not one hint of leak at the body of the muffler. I also used a diverter and had very little goo on the plane. And... all weather auto windshield fluid with a tad of dawn cleans it up without problem. I also used copper on each side of the gasket, and got no leaking there but did find the screws slightly loose after the first tank.

I had no serious problem hand starting until restoring the vent pressure line and then it got flooded I guess before I could get the needle back to where it should have been and the starter was pulled out to clear the flood. After the needle was reset for the pressure again, it was not difficult to hand start... though it doesn't hand start as easily as a larger gas engine does.

Oh... one other hint that made it really easy to run the first time was the use of a RCexl tack plugged into the ignition port. The numbers with an APC 11x6 prop (what I had) were 12,000 high and 2500 low.

I think mine is ready to fly after the vent line is corrected.
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Just like the funtana 50. It also would be a good match maybe horrizon might want to rethink about some of the discontinued planes now that they have a good gas engine for then!
My LHS has a Funtana 50 on his shelf I'm sure he'd love to get rid of! Shipping might be a killer tho...
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