New to gas, considering DLE20
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I put a DLE 20 in an Aeroworks Extra 300 .60-.90 and found a XOAR 16x8 prop to be just too fast. The 17x6 allowed it to slow down and was much more manageable. Instead of running a separate ignition battery I use one of these, http://www.tech-aero.net/ultra-ibec, gives you a remote ignition kill and allows you to keep the weight down which is really important on these small planes. I never tried a soft mount but the vibration isn’t too bad. Just make sure the firewall is reinforced and that you balance the prop and spinner.
May also want to bring your electric starter with, my DLE20 was a pain to start by hand.
May also want to bring your electric starter with, my DLE20 was a pain to start by hand.
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Azalner, sthill,
I have a Hobbico Accu-cycle Elite charger, which apparently will not work with Life batteries. I'm spending a fortune here and don't want to also buy a new charger. Is there a comparable LiPo I can use with the iBec? Just ordered one because I like the idea of less weight, especially with the added weight of an ignition module.
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I have a Hobbico Accu-cycle Elite charger, which apparently will not work with Life batteries. I'm spending a fortune here and don't want to also buy a new charger. Is there a comparable LiPo I can use with the iBec? Just ordered one because I like the idea of less weight, especially with the added weight of an ignition module.
Thanks.
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I had a 15 cc gasser in my 60 size Seagull Extra. This engine had enough power, but the plane was heavy and it felt heavy. Later I decided to put a .90 Magnum 4 stroke on and it made a huge difference. This is one of my favorite planes now.
Most 60 size planes can not handle the extra vibration you'll get from a gas engine, very likely you have to beef up your firewall and a few other areas.
Other then that - the DLE is a great engine. Life batteries help to keep the weight down, they hold the charge for a very long time and can be recharged quickly. They are well worth the money. Of course you can use a Lipo, just check the voltage your IBec can handle. Lipos just need some more attention - I'd always charge them outside or on a safe container.
Most 60 size planes can not handle the extra vibration you'll get from a gas engine, very likely you have to beef up your firewall and a few other areas.
Other then that - the DLE is a great engine. Life batteries help to keep the weight down, they hold the charge for a very long time and can be recharged quickly. They are well worth the money. Of course you can use a Lipo, just check the voltage your IBec can handle. Lipos just need some more attention - I'd always charge them outside or on a safe container.
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I have used LiPos for a long time in a Typhoon electric I used to have. I still have some, but they are 3s 11.1v. Probably too much for this.
If LiFe is that much better, can you recommend a cheap LiFe charger and battery for me to get?
If LiFe is that much better, can you recommend a cheap LiFe charger and battery for me to get?
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http://www.valuehobby.com/power-systems/chargers.html
I have ordered quite a lot from here, they ship fast and have great prices
Lipos are good for high current applications, like electric motors. They are not bad, they just need some extra caution.
LiFes are are great for rx and ingniton, where you don't need that much current.
I have ordered quite a lot from here, they ship fast and have great prices
Lipos are good for high current applications, like electric motors. They are not bad, they just need some extra caution.
LiFes are are great for rx and ingniton, where you don't need that much current.
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Azalner, sthill,
I have a Hobbico Accu-cycle Elite charger, which apparently will not work with Life batteries. I'm spending a fortune here and don't want to also buy a new charger. Is there a comparable LiPo I can use with the iBec? Just ordered one because I like the idea of less weight, especially with the added weight of an ignition module.
Thanks.
I have a Hobbico Accu-cycle Elite charger, which apparently will not work with Life batteries. I'm spending a fortune here and don't want to also buy a new charger. Is there a comparable LiPo I can use with the iBec? Just ordered one because I like the idea of less weight, especially with the added weight of an ignition module.
Thanks.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...iver_Pack.html
You will probably have to use a regulator depending on how much voltage your servos can handle. The IBEC has a built in regulator for the ignition.
Do as you see fit, but I would never charge a LiPo in the plane. That's the beauty of Life
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Found this, that seems to be good. Nothing says if it comes with an AC charger though.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._GENUINE_.html
Now the search begins for a good LiFe receiver pack from their site. Any suggestions?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._GENUINE_.html
Now the search begins for a good LiFe receiver pack from their site. Any suggestions?
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Here is a comparable LiPo.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...iver_Pack.html
You will probably have to use a regulator depending on how much voltage your servos can handle. The IBEC has a built in regulator for the ignition.
Do as you see fit, but I would never charge a LiPo in the plane. That's the beauty of Life
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...iver_Pack.html
You will probably have to use a regulator depending on how much voltage your servos can handle. The IBEC has a built in regulator for the ignition.
Do as you see fit, but I would never charge a LiPo in the plane. That's the beauty of Life
One thing to keep in mind is the input voltage to the IBEC should not exceed about 7 volts. If you are driving the airborne system with a LiPo or a Li-ion, it must first be regulated down to less than 7 volts. A LiFe battery will not require regulation. The IBEC's built in regulator is regulating the output voltage to the CDI from about 5 volts up to about 6.5 volts (this is settable).
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Was looking at this one at 2100 mah. Says receiver pack.
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...arehouse_.html
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...arehouse_.html
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Awesome. Ordered the 2100 mah receiver and the Turnigy charger. Boy I hope I didn't forget anything. My wife is gonna flip a nutty. I'll have to let her buy a purse or something. :P
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Was looking at this one at 2100 mah. Says receiver pack.
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...arehouse_.html
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...arehouse_.html
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Azalner, sthill,
I have a Hobbico Accu-cycle Elite charger, which apparently will not work with Life batteries. I'm spending a fortune here and don't want to also buy a new charger. Is there a comparable LiPo I can use with the iBec? Just ordered one because I like the idea of less weight, especially with the added weight of an ignition module.
Thanks.
I have a Hobbico Accu-cycle Elite charger, which apparently will not work with Life batteries. I'm spending a fortune here and don't want to also buy a new charger. Is there a comparable LiPo I can use with the iBec? Just ordered one because I like the idea of less weight, especially with the added weight of an ignition module.
Thanks.
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Is it true that you shouldn't use mixed oil that's more than 30 days old? That's about all I get to fly in a month, and I don't want to mix a gallon of it and waste most of it if it can't sit around for a while.