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Old 06-17-2016, 05:22 AM
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Johni, I may be interested, PM with what sort of money you looking for.
Old 06-17-2016, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cathurga
Johni, I may be interested, PM with what sort of money you looking for.
hi cathurga i just sent you a PM
Old 06-18-2016, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cathurga
Kwik, yes fantastic idea, except those are the ones I sued to break in, and frankly, they are a little 'oily' I am going to use them again, once I have a look at the gap, and until I get some new ones sent to me.
Wash them ?
Old 06-19-2016, 11:37 AM
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And.... now that we don't have a kink in the fuel line the engine runs in the model just as it did on the test-bench. Still putting the finishing touches to the cowling, need to run with cowling on, then check balance and fly.
Slow going at this time of year (very little sunlight after work, and cold in my shed), but maybe I'll get to fly this engine in the next couple of weeks.
Old 06-20-2016, 09:03 AM
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I'm going to put this engine in my Seagull Westland Lysander running a 3 blade prop. For you guys that are not using a starter, how are you getting the carb primed?
Old 06-20-2016, 09:46 AM
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I put a post about a page or two back on how to prime the engine without using a starter. I use a rubber fuel bulb, hook it up to the vent line of your fuel tank. Then squeeze the bulb and watch the fuel go up the fuel line and into the carb. Once it gets to the carb you are ready to hand prop.

I've been starting the engine this way and it works great. I haven't used an electric starter yet.



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I'm going to put this engine in my Seagull Westland Lysander running a 3 blade prop. For you guys that are not using a starter, how are you getting the carb primed?
Old 06-20-2016, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Zippi
I'm going to put this engine in my Seagull Westland Lysander running a 3 blade prop. For you guys that are not using a starter, how are you getting the carb primed?
I made a flapper valve to choke the engine. Close the flap, flip until the engine pops, open the flap and it starts immediately.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Zippi
I'm going to put this engine in my Seagull Westland Lysander running a 3 blade prop. For you guys that are not using a starter, how are you getting the carb primed?
Which prop are you planning to get? I am thinking of a 22X8X3 for FG-60 R3 Lysander combo...
Old 06-20-2016, 11:26 AM
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Another simple way to prime, similar to the fuel bulb which I don't have, is to attach a length of fuel line to the fuel tank vent and gently blow through the attached line until a small amount of fuel drips out the carb.
The attached line is removed and the engine is started easily. Very easy to do.
Old 06-20-2016, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GalenB
Which prop are you planning to get? I am thinking of a 22X8X3 for FG-60 R3 Lysander combo...
Not sure yet. I saw on one forum a guy was using a 20X10. I was thinking maybe a 21X 8 or 22X8. My plane won't be in until late August or early September so I'm in no hurry as this will be a winter project.
Old 06-20-2016, 01:52 PM
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Thanks for the info on priming the carb guys. How about tuning the low end? Same as any other gasser or is Saito different?
Old 06-21-2016, 08:52 AM
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I pulled the cowl to check the valve adjustment today and found that only three valves needed slight adjustment. The gaps were a little too wide.

While I had the cowl off I took a couple of pics of where the temp sensor is mounted and how the engine is baffled.
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Old 07-02-2016, 07:18 AM
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Looking for suitable round cowl airframe suggestions for sport, scale flying off grass (no retracts). I have FG-33R3 in DHC-2 Beaver and would like something a bit different for the 60R3. Ideas? Links?
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Originally Posted by marksp
Looking for suitable round cowl airframe suggestions for sport, scale flying off grass (no retracts). I have FG-33R3 in DHC-2 Beaver and would like something a bit different for the 60R3. Ideas? Links?
ESM Fw 190 D9. (Oh, no retracts? Okay, no ideas on that)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AGdihDBCco



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Old 07-02-2016, 08:38 AM
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Mark,

Check out the Seagull Lysander -- Paul and I are building ours right now... Mine will have a Saito FG-60 R3 and Paul's will use an AXI 5345 and 10 or 12S packs... Although it may be too similar to a Beaver...

If you have any interest in the Lysander let me and I can show you mine... I am still assembling it, but you are welcome to stop by and look it over...
Old 07-02-2016, 04:30 PM
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This is what I had in mind... plan to fly it scale rather than all out 3-D.



http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/giant-scale-aircraft-3d-aerobatic-110/11601703-yak-55sp-fly-model-50cc.html
Old 07-04-2016, 10:54 PM
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Does anyone know where I can get a Gasket set for this engine. It appears that Horizon is out of stock. I have sent a mail to RC Japan and am waiting for them to get back to me.
Cant find anything on ebay or similar. If any of you know of a local stockist that has a set, I would be most interested in getting one. Or, if any of you have a set lying around....
Old 07-04-2016, 11:14 PM
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I finally got back my engine from Saito service after 2.5 months. There is a repair sheet included. It states that moving parts are replaced (they don't specify which) and I should be running at least 1 tank in fully rich condition on full throttle before I go flying. There is no mention of cause of the failure. There is also a test report, they have tested it with L 6.5 and H 1 1/6 and idle 1300 and WOT 6600. It is strange because when I checked the H needle, it was only 1 turn open. Anyway, I am installing it back to my corsair perhaps I get to run it this weekend.
Old 07-07-2016, 08:58 AM
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Met you at the big bird field couple weeks ago and we talked about your 3-blade prop question you posted on the other forum. I thought about it later and it occurred to me that the rule of thumb of dropping an inch of pitch for in increase of one inch in diameter (or the other way around) is a pretty old rule, from back when we were all using 10 inch props. With props twice that now, I wonder if it scales up differently, maybe more like two inches.
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Gents,

Unable to start the engine hand propping without a choke or other means.

I've been reading about priming and choking. Thanks for the insight. Does anyone have advice on whether to attach the vent line to the nipple on the Keleo exhaust ring? I have done so in a tightly cowled and baffled project, so the vent line is not available for the bulb method of priming. I might have to take things apart and put in a choke. Don't really want to buy a starter if I can help it.

What if I pinched the vent line from inside the plane and pressurized the tank a bit using the fueling pump to get the fuel to the carb? Does anyone think this might work, or not?

Also, for this engine, has anyone experience the engine starting and running backwards? Just wondering if that is a risk.

Thanks!
Old 07-07-2016, 09:31 AM
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Gents,

Unable to start the engine hand propping without a choke or other means.

I've been reading about priming and choking. Thanks for the insight. Does anyone have advice on whether to attach the vent line to the nipple on the Keleo exhaust ring? I have done so in a tightly cowled and baffled project, so the vent line is not available for the bulb method of priming. I might have to take things apart and put in a choke. Don't really want to buy a starter if I can help it.

What if I pinched the vent line from inside the plane and pressurized the tank a bit using the fueling pump to get the fuel to the carb? Does anyone think this might work, or not?

Also, for this engine, has anyone experience the engine starting and running backwards? Just wondering if that is a risk.

Thanks!
Old 07-07-2016, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BDKelly
What if I pinched the vent line from inside the plane and pressurized the tank a bit using the fueling pump to get the fuel to the carb? Does anyone think this might work, or not?
I think that would work but I have a simpler suggestion which worked for me. Discard the current filling line and add a Y connector between carb and the tank and add a filter + new filling line to the Y connector. This way, while filling, you will also force the fuel to the carb. Mine always started with few flips if I tanked just before flight. Be warned that while fueling there will be some fuel dribling from the carb.
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Also, for this engine, has anyone experience the engine starting and running backwards? Just wondering if that is a risk.
Sometimes it kicks back for a couple of rounds but never really run backwards. Open the throttle 1/6 while starting, this way it will start in correct direction.
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Originally Posted by BDKelly
GalenB
Met you at the big bird field couple weeks ago and we talked about your 3-blade prop question you posted on the other forum. I thought about it later and it occurred to me that the rule of thumb of dropping an inch of pitch for in increase of one inch in diameter (or the other way around) is a pretty old rule, from back when we were all using 10 inch props. With props twice that now, I wonder if it scales up differently, maybe more like two inches.
I did drop the pitch by 2 inches for the three blade... I ordered a 22x8x3 this morning -- that is the prop with which I will start...
Old 07-08-2016, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BDKelly
...Does anyone have advice on whether to attach the vent line to the nipple on the Keleo exhaust ring?
Not exactly advice, but that describes my current setup - tank vent line connected to pressure nipple on top of Keleo ring.
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I thought nipple was for smoke?!..

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