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Old 10-29-2014, 12:20 AM
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Looks like a DA 60 clone.
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DA is a great engine.
We are a group of engineers set up factories at the same time we are also fans. We designed four years ago to the engine, our hometown is 2000 meters above sea level. The need for a bigger engine, did not expect today 60cc is the mainstream. We have a dream, have a CNC, the quality and performance of the class, everybody can afford to buy a good engine. We did it.
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DA is a great engine.
We are a group of engineers set up factories at the same time we are also fans. We designed four years ago to the engine, our hometown is 2000 meters above sea level. The need for a bigger engine, did not expect today 60cc is the mainstream. We have a dream, have a CNC, the quality and performance of the class, everybody can afford to buy a good engine. We did it.

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Old 10-29-2014, 09:01 AM
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Can you furnish us with specs, Bore, stoke, weight, performance with specific props?
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Here is some information I received on the engine.

Page 5 has the specs and performance information.

I was contacted by them over two years ago that they were going to produce a engine so I have no doubt they have been testing them for over a year.

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That is an attractive engine and I like the fact that it comes with a wrap around Pitts muffler. I did notice however it does not seem to have any kind of support strap for it which I always feel all wrap around's need. I wonder though with the angled design of the muffler mounting portion if maybe some thought was given to that and may not need a support strap.
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BadAzzMaxx, will you be selling these new KSC engines? Thanks, Capt,n
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It looks good but read the fine print. There is no mention of what type of plating is used. The reed block seems to be claimed to be molded in the US. I suspect the material is a genuine 3M product in it's raw form though. One thing that really caught my eye is the Walbro " LIKE " carb. Now a proprietary item. No mention of what the reeds are made of. IMO just another reverse engineered engine.
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Been down that road and do not know if I want to travel it again. LOL

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that shiny crankcase reminds me of the Mintor engines for some reason.
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Originally Posted by thepamster
That is an attractive engine and I like the fact that it comes with a wrap around Pitts muffler. I did notice however it does not seem to have any kind of support strap for it which I always feel all wrap around's need. I wonder though with the angled design of the muffler mounting portion if maybe some thought was given to that and may not need a support strap.
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Thanks for your attention, our Pitts muffler do not need the support,
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price ?
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Originally Posted by roadhawgy
price ?
Thanks for your attention, we are not eager to put on the market for the moment, due to we have not set up service center in North American yet, moreover, it haven't been tested by the pilot who were you well-known and trusted.
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I elect AV8TOR to test your engine. He knows engines pretty good. He has also built a few twin cyl engines. He has not crashed much as he has many that are all in good working condition. Well that is a start anyway. Capt,n
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Which spark plug is design to take?
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Originally Posted by captinjohn
I elect AV8TOR to test your engine. He knows engines pretty good. He has also built a few twin cyl engines. He has not crashed much as he has many that are all in good working condition. Well that is a start anyway. Capt,n
Thank you for your recommendation, we have been discussed with what method in North America, and looking for test pilot yet. We are very concerned about your recommendation.
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Originally Posted by captinjohn
I elect AV8TOR to test your engine. He knows engines pretty good. He has also built a few twin cyl engines. He has not crashed much as he has many that are all in good working condition. Well that is a start anyway. Capt,n
I am the "engine guy" and pilot that Capt,n speaks of, and would be interested in doing a review on your engine. It looks like a very nice engine, and I would look forward to testing it. I have 45 years of experience with engines and model aircraft. I am located in Tucson, Arizona, USA.

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Too bad it is side exhaust and has a straight plug. I will pass.
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It does look pretty nice though. I would agree that the muffler might be susceptible to metal fatigue and then it breaks off. Some other companies have already run across that problem with the Pitts style mufflers. So a support bracket would be a really good thing to have on it. I do not have a problem with the side exhaust setup but having a option to change the engine to rear exhaust for the scale people might be a good idea.
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If KSC supply a carbon exhaust gasket and not use a the paper gasket with there engine the problem of metal fatigue is not issue. I have done extensive testing with JC engines that have the a paper gasket and the stock and pitts muffler crack around the mounting support. A carbon exhaust gasket stop the vibration even a bracket does not stop the muffler from cracking it slows it down but still cracks over time.
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Most people chunk those paper gaskets in the trash before they even run a engine. I don't believe the gasket has anything to do with the broken mufflers but rather the lever moment arm created by the weight of a wrap around muffler, hence the need for a strap.
These things can be overcome aftermarket so I guess the important thing is whether the engine is worth that trouble to solve it or not.
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Originally Posted by thepamster
Most people chunk those paper gaskets in the trash before they even run a engine. I don't believe the gasket has anything to do with the broken mufflers but rather the lever moment arm created by the weight of a wrap around muffler, hence the need for a strap.
These things can be overcome aftermarket so I guess the important thing is whether the engine is worth that trouble to solve it or not.
You are correct here on the lever arm being the cause, along with the heavy thump of a big single engine. Not sure I have heard of breaking mufflers being an issue as much as it is nearly impossible to keep the muffler bolts tight. The strap seems to be a good solution here. With the recessed bolt heads, even wire tying them is impossible.

Of course, the real solution is rear exhaust. I do not understand engine manufacturers bringing new products to market with side mounted items. The is no downside to the rear exhaust/carb configuration IMO. So nice DLE has listened to the customers. They are really getting it right at this moment.
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Ya they chunk the paper gasket mount it flush with silicon and the muffler cracks. I dont really car what either you say try a carbon gasket on a 30 cc engine with a stock or a pitts muffler then come back and add you comments. My test have proved a gasket make a world of difference
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Ya they chunk the paper gasket mount it flush with silicon and the muffler cracks. I dont really care what either you say try a carbon gasket on a 30 cc engine with a stock or a pitts muffler then come back and add you comments. My test have proved a gasket make a world of difference.
I cut my muffler warranty by 80%having my customers install a carbon gasket with a new muffler.

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