Composition of Stihl HP oil
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Comparing the data sheets between HP Ultra that is a known synthetic and HP, it would appear that HP is straight petroleum based oil. Here are the sheets .... look at page 2.
http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/C...STIHL2CYHP.pdf
http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/C...l_HP_Ultra.pdf
http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/C...STIHL2CYHP.pdf
http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/C...l_HP_Ultra.pdf
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Stihl has three different oils; as mentioned the HP is what used to be known as "Dino" oil as it's all petroleum products with some additives. Of late, it seems folks are want to call that "mineral oil" which is petroleum with NO additives.
Any way, the HP Ultra is 100% synthetic and there used to be another one in the middle of those two which was a blend but I do not think that is made anymore.
Any way, the HP Ultra is 100% synthetic and there used to be another one in the middle of those two which was a blend but I do not think that is made anymore.
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I haven't seen the blended oil on the Stihl dealer shelves for some time now. Further, it seems that Stihl is really pushing the HP Ultra these days as some dealers I've visited only had that oil on display though they had the orange bottled oil in the back if asked. This is quite a change as just a few years ago, the orange bottled oil was the primary displayed oil and the HP Ultra was often only available if you asked for it.
Doesn't matter to me right now as I switched to Red Line a couple months back just for price and availability reasons. Both Stihl and Red Line are extremely good oils but on sale, at times I can find Red Line at almost half the price. When oil is a major cost factor in mixed fuel, it makes a difference.
Doesn't matter to me right now as I switched to Red Line a couple months back just for price and availability reasons. Both Stihl and Red Line are extremely good oils but on sale, at times I can find Red Line at almost half the price. When oil is a major cost factor in mixed fuel, it makes a difference.
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Not here in Aust., $20 for the redline small bottle and $30 for sthil 1litre bottle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nearly twice as much and this isnt a one off thing but the standard price structure . Cheers the pope
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I have no answer other than perhaps in advertising, they can say about anything they want to say. Have you ever read a label that said it was less refined or low performance? I ran quite a bit of the orange bottle oil in my saws over the years and it always worked without problems.
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As I said earlier; mineral oil has no additives and was used for a long time for break in purposes. I believe if you were to check at the local airport, you'll find mineral oil being used on new piston aircraft engines until either it's burning less than 1qt. per hour or 100 hrs. total time. Then you can put in the dino oil or synthetic blends.
My gassers all ran great with the Stihl HP including the string trimmers and chainsaw. Now I've been setting them up with the Stihl HP Ultra at 40:1 rather than 32:1 as I did with the HP and it's required retuning all of the model airplane gassers. I use it mostly for convenience as it comes in those nifty little bottles with fuel preserver and I don't have to mess around with mixing Redline by getting out the funnels, measuring stuff and then having to clean it all up and try to keep the dust off for the next time. I don't fly the gassers that much anymore so it's really not a significant cost change.
You guys 'wanna talk about a cost change? five gallons of Kerosene costs about $25.00 and a quart of 100% Turbine oil goes in each five gallons. Those are about $13.00 each and most of the mid sized turbines will burn on the order of a gallon per flight. Then there's the smoke oil; $25.00 a gallon for Super-Dri and if your smoke tank is big enough, you can burn a gallon of that pretty easily on a flight.
So, the cost of flying our piston powered stuff could be worse....
My gassers all ran great with the Stihl HP including the string trimmers and chainsaw. Now I've been setting them up with the Stihl HP Ultra at 40:1 rather than 32:1 as I did with the HP and it's required retuning all of the model airplane gassers. I use it mostly for convenience as it comes in those nifty little bottles with fuel preserver and I don't have to mess around with mixing Redline by getting out the funnels, measuring stuff and then having to clean it all up and try to keep the dust off for the next time. I don't fly the gassers that much anymore so it's really not a significant cost change.
You guys 'wanna talk about a cost change? five gallons of Kerosene costs about $25.00 and a quart of 100% Turbine oil goes in each five gallons. Those are about $13.00 each and most of the mid sized turbines will burn on the order of a gallon per flight. Then there's the smoke oil; $25.00 a gallon for Super-Dri and if your smoke tank is big enough, you can burn a gallon of that pretty easily on a flight.
So, the cost of flying our piston powered stuff could be worse....
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Zeeb, I have a primitive cabin in northern Minnesota. The only kerosene I burn is in the lamps as we have no electricity. Quite expensive in small quantities but we don't burn much!
The turbine bug has never bit me but if it did, it would be powering a heli. A local guy has a turbo-prop airplane that is kinda neat but more of a novelty than a practical power source.
The turbine bug has never bit me but if it did, it would be powering a heli. A local guy has a turbo-prop airplane that is kinda neat but more of a novelty than a practical power source.
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Zeeb, I have a primitive cabin in northern Minnesota. The only kerosene I burn is in the lamps as we have no electricity. Quite expensive in small quantities but we don't burn much!
The turbine bug has never bit me but if it did, it would be powering a heli. A local guy has a turbo-prop airplane that is kinda neat but more of a novelty than a practical power source.
The turbine bug has never bit me but if it did, it would be powering a heli. A local guy has a turbo-prop airplane that is kinda neat but more of a novelty than a practical power source.
I have a friend who just bought a used turbine heli from a guy in Reno. Not sure of the specifics other than it's got a Wren on the beastie. I'm not much of a heli guy. I have an Align 450 that I get out once in awhile with the training gear on it and practice until I can do figure 8's, hover with front, back and both sides toward me and then I put it back in it's case. When it comes out the next time, I do the same thing over again so I've never really learned to fly an RC heli. I got some full scale heli time tho......