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Old 05-30-2004, 04:29 PM
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It figures..You brand X guys have all the trick stuff...
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ok,
I tried the hitec supreme 8 channel dual conversion reciever, I had one on hand. And I put everything behind the servos. Routed the antenna to the vert stab. Twisted the battery terminals and bipassed the switch to the reciever. I got a marked 100'. That is with the antenna down and the engine at full throttle. I got about 168' or so with the engine off and antenna down. This is a brand new reciever too. I REALLY padded the battery and rec. too. SO....now what, is that a good test? Am I ok now or???? I am new to this gaser stuff. I truely appreciate you all for the help too. Lord willin I will be able to fly this wed. It is supposed to be nice.
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Your about 40 ft shy of being OK. Now you are at about a 30% reduction.
I guess the only simple thing left is the Bosch cap.
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where do i get those ch ignitions?
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I have some tubing that would do the job if i could make it fit right, what would be the difference? It is just a metal case right?
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Won't hurt to try.
The Bosch cap also has a 1k resister in it.
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Here is the solution for your glitch problems with G-26 : Sell it and buy a DA or similar. Don't even bother to modify it with "aftermarket" parts, you will end up wih an engine that would cost the same with a DA, but heavier and generate half power of DA, and worst of all, still having glitches.

I am sorry Zenoah fans, no offense, but I had this engine, read every thread and tried everything about glitch prevention in RCU to solve it problem and it just did not work out.

Let's face it : This engine has a very real problem in that matter and the MANUFACTURER has to do something about it, not US, it is them to try hard to make it work, not US. I am doing this hobby to relax and have a good time, not to get frustrated everytime I go to the field with my plane.

After tried everything and ran out of ideas, I sold it and get a DA-50. DA WORKS LIKE A CLOCK, INCREDIBLE POWER, NO GLITCHES -- PERIOD.
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Don't give up. Just find a Bosch cap or equivelent and I believe you will have the solution. I know that there are some operating without them and that floats their boat. I have seen this happen several times and the cap solved it. Hang in there. Good luck.
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I will try that next then thanks. Will keep you informed.
Old 06-01-2004, 09:43 AM
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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

Well get this,

I called horizon and they give me the line that 100' with antenna down is fine. My 8103 book says 60-75 ft and that 100' is fine. Tell me somthing do they really know what they are talking about? I dont mean to bash at all becouse they are nice people but this is my money were talkin about.
Old 06-01-2004, 09:55 AM
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Looks like you are 25 to 40 feet better than what the manual calls for.

obolel, replace a G26 with a DA 50, sounds like a serious power difference there.................

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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

yeah I dont think so either on the 50. I am stretchin it for the 26 so to speak. but I guess it makes it more interesting to push the envolope huh LOL!
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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

well i went out and done another test today and I could get 100' range test antenna collapsed. But I done this a time or two flawlessly. And I figured one more time and got maybee 30 some odd feet is all. I am going to just send off the engine I guess. I thought I had it but I guess not. I will keep everyone posted when the engine arrives. Lets hope it fixes it.
Old 06-09-2004, 11:27 AM
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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

I sent my engine off and it will be here in a few days. They put some sort of shield over the plug wire. The bearings were ok. We'll see how it does. I think I may go ahead and put a pcm on it just for saftey sake.
Old 06-13-2004, 11:11 PM
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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

well, i got it back and it didnt help. I am trying to get my new GWS 8ch a try. I also am trying a 6v 5cell expert 2700mah. I have been told by a ton of older fellows that my 90+ ft range test antenna down is fine. With fm too. And have been told and saw this weekend that 95% of them if not 100% use fm not pcm and they looked like they had no glitch problems. Oh well, I guess I will see.
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"Here is the solution for your glitch problems with G-26 : Sell it and buy a DA or similar. Don't even bother to modify it with "aftermarket" parts, you will end up wih an engine that would cost the same with a DA, but heavier and generate half power of DA, and worst of all, still having glitches.

I am sorry Zenoah fans, no offense, but I had this engine, read every thread and tried everything about glitch prevention in RCU to solve it problem and it just did not work out.

Let's face it : This engine has a very real problem in that matter and the MANUFACTURER has to do something about it, not US, it is them to try hard to make it work, not US. I am doing this hobby to relax and have a good time, not to get frustrated everytime I go to the field with my plane.

After tried everything and ran out of ideas, I sold it and get a DA-50. DA WORKS LIKE A CLOCK, INCREDIBLE POWER, NO GLITCHES -- PERIOD"

You will eventually come to that I think. This is a heavy, underpowered engine, althoguh it is a very reliable on. Just think how much you spent just to make the engine usable for your case, and add the price of a PCM receiver to that and you'll see it. DA is just an example, buy a ZDZ , BME or something similar, in my opinion they are better.

By the way, if you purchased a PCM receiver in the first place, you would have no problems at all. I don't care "you don't need PCM to fly gas" guys, you need PCM for two very basic reasons : 1. Better reception quality, 2. piece of mind.

As I said it is not you but the manufacturer has to do something to rectify the situation if they want to sell engines.

If you still want to try, get a MULTIPLEX IPD receiver from HITEC, it is as good as a PCM receiver, but it works with FM, I had three of those and worked pretty well.

Good luck.
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If I can find someone to give me what I gave for it $280 I will sell it then buy a DA. But I doubt there will be any one.
Old 06-14-2004, 10:50 AM
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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

A friend showed up this weekend with a new G-26 in an Extra and it is a good solid running engine with good power and no electrical issues. There is also another one at the field, that is the same.
I still think you may have a vibration issue of some sort. Maybe you should mount the engine in a test stand, and then while it is running, gradualy add electronic components in the proximity to see if you get glitches. Or see if someone has a known good G-23 or 26 that you could borrow to mount in your set-up to see if the problem goes away.
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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

If you think a 26 that turns a 18-6 Mejzlik 9000 with 17 1/2 lbs pull is underpowered, show me one that's better..Funny, my transmitter is an OLD AM Proline converte to a MicroPro 8000....I fly ALL my planes with Zenoahs, NO shielded cap...NO interference..G23, G26,G38,G62,GT74...Only interference I ever had was from a bad servo..Replaced the servo, problem went away....Have you tried replacing your servos, one at a time ?
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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

I replaced one of them which was a hitec but now I dont remember which one it was, I believe it was the rudder, but it hasnt changed nothing.
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crashland, I thought you had already changed out everything one component at a time. That may be the only real way to find the problem.

obolel, I stand by my earlier remarks that if you have to go PCM to get range you are not doing anything except masking the problem. Find and fix the problem.

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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

I havent removed my throttle and elevator servos only my rudder seems to be giving me trouble. I tested again this evening, I got about 66ft which is in my owners manual range. It says I believe between 60 and 75 ft with antenna down. But it seems a bit low to me.
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Default RE: GasZenoah 26 engine in plane causing rf glitching HELP!!!

Ok, I finally got me one of those JR 770 Slimline PCM receivers today. Odd thing, when the plane is facing the left of me (engine pointing left rudder facing right) I got about 150 ft with antenna down on a range test. Now, when I faced the plane towards me I got almost or there abouts 200 ft or more. Why would that matter? I am happy to say that I feel more confident now and I have the failsafe set on idle and it works great. I am going to see if it will still work ok with the receiver in front of the servos instead of behind so's that I wont have to add any weight to balance it. Anyway, I thought I would post how things went. I tried a GWS 8 ch receiver that a feller told me would work but it didnt. I have this posted on other forums here so I appologize for any repeats.

Thanks for all the help. I will post a maiden flight when I get it in the air.


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