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Old 10-19-2002, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: Re: 2 gal. Hand Pump F/C

Originally posted by aerografixs



I bought this Jersey Modeler fuel system from ACM (Rick Broussard) and I love it, its the best I have had.

2 gallon gas can from home depot $4.00
deluxe gas/glow hand pump H9 $15.00
Bulkhead RC boat fitting $1.50



Building the same exact thing yourself for half the price:


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Old 10-19-2002, 01:13 AM
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Default Sonictronicc electronic gas pump

Has anybody ever thought for safety's sake to use snomobile type oscilating pump and have vibrate from a small unbalanced motor, no spark
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Old 11-16-2002, 10:55 PM
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Default Sonictronicc electronic gas pump

If you look at Sigs web site now you will see the new pump and gas field box.
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Old 11-17-2002, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: DPDT Schematic

Originally posted by helihawks
Oh, and by the way, should you choose to operate
a reversible pump, here is how to wire the switch:
What switch are you using that is intrinsically safe for gasoline delivery? A regualar chep switch is unsealed and produces a spark every time contact is made and broken. A potential ignition source for gasoline vapors, especially if it's mounted on your fuel bottle.

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Old 11-17-2002, 02:59 AM
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Hand PUMP for gasoline,

Electric for Alcohol....

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Old 11-17-2002, 03:22 AM
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Default Sonictronicc electronic gas pump

The sonictronic pump doesn't have a motor that can be reversed. It is an oscilating pump much like on a fish aquarium. to reverse the flow you must reverse the lines. It only pumps in one direction.
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Old 11-17-2002, 04:09 AM
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Default Here is the latest!!!

After hearing all of the concerns about sparks and switches, I have re-designed my latest gas container--hopefully to the approval of most. --(please don't laugh-it is a very in-expensive homemade effecient pump---Purolator pump from Advance Auto--$25--the rest you have in the shop
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Old 11-17-2002, 04:13 AM
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For safety- I mounted the switch guards around the toggle---also--I recessed the switch into the wood and then coated the outside with RTV silicone for an airtight seal against sparks (top left in this picture). Very dependable--cheap-(not pretty)---way to pump gas into a plane--Should have covered it in MonoCoate
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Default The Sw in silcone!

To meet the National Electrical Code for
Class 1, Division 1 Standards (Gasoline)
Just raise the switch to 18" and mount it
in an explosion proof enclosure!!!!!!!!

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The sonictronic pump doesn't have a motor that can be reversed. It is an oscilating pump much like on a fish aquarium. to reverse the flow you must reverse the lines. It only pumps in one direction.

I have not finished yet--This system will also be able to drain the tank also--(I figured this out, but have not yet had time to install it)--this is how it works
1-Install a Dubro quick fill gas valve on the front plate between the tank and pump--the trick is in the plumbing--Normal plumbing has it cutting of the line going to the carb and filling the tank when the connector is in place
2-Make a seperate fuel line with the quick fill connector on one end and attached to the planes clunk on the other
3-It should be plumbed so that when you attach the (seperate) fuel line from the plane and then plug the connector into the Quick Fill valve --the line going to the tank would be blocked, and gas would be pulled out of the plane into the fuel pump--This gas would travel its normal route thru the fuel line--but instead of having it filling the plane, you simply unscrew the cap and allow it to go back into the gas container.

Thanks Uncle Byron--you must be the County Code Inspector
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Old 11-17-2002, 08:13 PM
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ajf--2 Could you please draw out a diagram and scan it of your idea for the ones that cannot understand written directions, but rely on pictures more. Thanks Captinjohn
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Old 11-17-2002, 09:22 PM
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Default Pumps...

As an alcohol user, I am still wondering if a guy can
set up one of the aftermarket electric REVERSABLE DC
fuel pumps to shove alcohol into my tank!

Someone had mentioned that they heard either
a subaru or VW e-pump would work. Do I have to
be the guinea pig here to see if this works!???

Last season I bought 3 - $24 dollar sonictron fuel
pumps! This bumms me out!

If I can get one of the aftermarket pumps to operate
in either direction, I will post the results!

Byron, Omaha (Too cold to fly today!) Winds are up too.

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Old 11-17-2002, 09:31 PM
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Sorry captianjohn--very hard to describe--Will post a pic when I complete it--let me try to explain again--The Dubro valve allows fuel to flow thru freely. Fuel goes in one of the outlets on the back and exits out the other outlet. When you insert the connector into the valve, it will close off one of the outlets and route fuel thru the connector to ONLY ONE OUTLET. It is this outlet that should go to the fuel pump. The outlet that is closed off when the connector is inserted should go to the Gas container.

The result should be--fuel will flow freely when the connector is not inserted in the valve. You have a line from the fuel tank in your plane with the valve connectorat the other end-When the connector is inserted-the line going to the gas container is closed off--The line going to the fuel pump is still open, only now it is connected to the clunk in the airplane and (instead of pumping gas out of the gas container) is pumping fuel out of the airplane thru the normal fuel lines. The normal fuel line that would be hooked up to the airplane for fueling is being routed back to the gas container because you have the cap off and are holding the line so that it is filling the gas container--and not the airplane
I know this sounds confusing---I will try to explain it more when I get it finished.

Maybe somebody else out there understands my theroy and can 'splain it better :stupid:
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Old 11-17-2002, 09:48 PM
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Andy
Glenn says the sig should be $35 forward and reverse flow
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PS
Ive got your old Decathlon sitting in my garage...even better price
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Hey Andy--why aren't you flying today? I heard about the Decvathalon--the police are on their way--you theif!
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Old 11-17-2002, 09:53 PM
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Probably same as you Amsstellllll light its called and I jokingly offered less and it was accepted. $250 all in
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I will try to draw up a no-electric pump system. It will use a small air pump like on coleman stove or any good little hand air pump. The system will have the ability to pressurize the fue/gas can when pushing fuel to tank in plane when filling or pressurize the tank in plane to push fuel back to fuel/gas can to de-fuel. I got to draw this out and scan it to post. Have Patients. Captinjohn
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Old 11-18-2002, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: The Sw in silcone!

Originally posted by helihawks
To meet the National Electrical Code for
Class 1, Division 1 Standards (Gasoline)
Just raise the switch to 18" and mount it
in an explosion proof enclosure!!!!!!!!

Uncle Byron
ROFLMAO, that was good.

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Old 11-07-2003, 08:54 AM
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Default RE: Sonictronicc electronic gas pump

Hey,
I know this post is old, but JC whitney has that pump for 42 bucks. Where did you find it for 25 dollar?

http://www.jcwhitneyusa.com/webapp/w...&storeId=10101


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Default RE: Sonictronicc electronic gas pump

Rick, I don't know where they are finding it for $25 but here is a listing on Midway auto parts site for $39.99. If you place a $50 order from them, the shipping is free.

I bought the Purolator 42S about a year ago from O' Reilly auto parts and really do like it. To defuel I find it easy to swap lines. A couple of small three way valves (one for the inlet and one for the outlet) would make it even easier. Does anyone know where I could get these valves?

Ken

http://www.midwayautosupply.com/sear...or&select1=mfg
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