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Old 07-03-2006, 08:54 PM
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Default Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

Curious what most folks use for a throttle pushrod with gas engines. The plastic tube stuff brings back memories of temp related trim changes. I know not to use metal. Am considering using this Sullivan carbon fiber pushrod. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFV44&P=7

Edit - Forgot to mention the throttle servo will be back in the fuselage near the receiver.
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

I use carbon fiber rods with titanium ends with ball links, or if the linkage is short enough a H9 Prolink
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

Should work with no problems. FYI, I use a metal pushrod with a CF rod around that. No problems, but I also don't have any metal/metal contact.
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

I also do with ball linksand have also used metal and titanium rods with ball-links on each end. I also wrap the throttle wire in a RF Filter just in case

As long as you have no metal to metal connections you will be fine

I once saw a pic of QQ's 80"+ Yak using a DA50 and a pull-pull cable on the throttle to the servo with simple loops on both ends. I beleive it was a pic in his assembly manual. I know if he does it, it must work because if you have ever heard him working the throttle going into a hover then you know what I mean. I'm sure he leaves the return spring on the carb though for positive throttle return
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

Interesting you mention the pull pull (pull/spring back). My carb has a return spring on it. I suppose the pull connection would be best if ran inside a tube. Any thoughts on what might be the best material to use (ex. - kevlar thread)? It never ceases to amaze me how complicated I can make something that can be simple. Part of the fun though.
Old 07-03-2006, 09:20 PM
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

Personally I have never used it and the pic did not show much other than the serv and carb connections. I'll try and dig it up. I would think Kevlar would work but you would need a very straight run unless you do a pully setup
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

I found the pics, they are in the manual for the QQ 85 inch Yak and it looks like he is using wire and no tube

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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

bubbagates,
Thanks for the pics. It looks like a good set up.
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

I used a piece of CF tube & JB Welded a 1" piece of 4-40 rod into each end. I then put ball links on each end.
Titanium ends would be better, but this seemed strong enough for the throttle.
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?


ORIGINAL: flyinrazrback

I use carbon fiber rods with titanium ends with ball links,

Same here works great. Used JB Weld to bond the titanium ends (first clean everything really good w/ alcohol, sanding a little is good too).
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

Been using C/F rod for throttle push rods for years. No probs to date. I like all my controls to be rigid and positive.
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

Flylow,

I use exactly the stuff you posted... on the package is says Sullivan Precision Rod. It works awesome... zero throttle trim changes. I heard the rod is built with a sort of plastic buffer in it to make it non-conductive, but I can't say for sure... just heresay.

FWIW... my throttle servo is 20"+ back from the motor with this rod and I love it. I use a Sullivan Golden-Clevis connected to a plastic servo arm on one end (or a ball link to a metal servo arm.. have both running) and a ball-link connected to the carb arm on the other end... no metal-metal or carbon-metal contact.
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

Been away from the computer for a couple of days. It looks like there isn't a "most popular" way to do the throttle hookup. Thanks for all the input. Thanks for the pm flyinrazrback.
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Default RE: Anybody using carbon fiber for the throttle pushrod?

I use Spiderwire fishing line (Teflon impregnated Kevlar) on a "Pull" setup. Runs inside a tube with a servo mounting eyelet at each end. Tube does not have to be straight since the line will not cut anything. Simple setup. Works fine for me.

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