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Throttle Servo Choices
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Throttle Servo Choices
For gassers, 40cc - 80cc - what servos do we prefer to use that gives best durability, accuracy, resolution, and reliability?
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
I have found that a full size (don't use a mini) accurate servo is important. So, a corless servo metal or nylon geared or digital corded or corless metal or nylon. HS 5645/5945 or Fut - 3050, 9001, jr- 811. all work great without breaking the bank.
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
As long as it is High speed and precise it is good for me. No need to be digital IMO.
Sooooooo coreless with nylon gears.
Personnaly I use the Futaba 9101 but there must be some other good choices (925 from Hitec or others). Just a thought, maybe some tail rotor servos????
Sooooooo coreless with nylon gears.
Personnaly I use the Futaba 9101 but there must be some other good choices (925 from Hitec or others). Just a thought, maybe some tail rotor servos????
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
Here's my throttle servo, can't beat the speed at 0.08 seconds
Hitec 5925
Torque 4.8/6.0v : 103 / 128 oz.
Speed 4.8/6.0v : 0.10 / 0.08 second
Size : 1.6"x 0.8"x1.5"
Weight : 1.97 oz.
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
Voted for number 4, as I suppose you mean METAL gear on this one.
I use HS-925MG for these reasons:
Plenty of torque, coreless, metalgear, extremely fast (0.08 secs) and analoge. Supposedly analogue shoud be better coping with vibrations than digital, which I way I went with it - all other servos I use are digital.
I use HS-925MG for these reasons:
Plenty of torque, coreless, metalgear, extremely fast (0.08 secs) and analoge. Supposedly analogue shoud be better coping with vibrations than digital, which I way I went with it - all other servos I use are digital.
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Voted for number 4, as I suppose you mean METAL gear on this one.
Voted for number 4, as I suppose you mean METAL gear on this one.
Aerobob--if this is NOT what you wanted, then PM me and I'll change it to what you need.
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I voted for coreless motor with nylon gears. I use the JR 4721 on a few larger airplanes. But, I'm also using an analog digital with nylong gears (JR DS537) on a few other planes.
I don't think metal gears is necessary. You can certainly do that and it will work fine. But, I don't see it being necessary to have metal gears on your throttle servo. To me, metal gears are for situations where you might be experiencing major shock loads to the gear train--such as a huge elevator, or a very large rudder. Metal gears is for when your really pushing the servo to the max.
For the throttle, nylon is fine as long as it's precise and accurate. I'm not even looking for the fastest servo. Most servos will travel quicker than the engine can keep up anyway. As long as it comes back to the same spot when I idle down. I want a precision servo that will always bring the engine to a given speed while I have the stick at 1/2. And I want to to come back to idle the same everytime. That way, I'm not fumbling with a trim tab and trying to slow the motor down while I'm trying to land.
Just my opinion. I been wrong before.
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Leavig brands out of it, I try to match the speed and resolution of the flight servos at the throttle as well. I prefer to have the throttle providing the correct power inputs to the flight surface inputs at the same moment in time. I went with coreless nylon.
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
Yep - you're right. Good catch, thanks.
Keep the comments/votes coming, guys. This is useful (particularly for newbies who seem to ALWAYS want to know "What throttle servo do I need?" )
Keep the comments/votes coming, guys. This is useful (particularly for newbies who seem to ALWAYS want to know "What throttle servo do I need?" )
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
I use a Fut S3001, works well for me.
Remember, motor and gears are not the parts to question, the important bit is the feed-back pot inside the servo, it determins the resolution of the servo and (sadly) none of the manufacturers give us any information on this vital part.
Remember, motor and gears are not the parts to question, the important bit is the feed-back pot inside the servo, it determins the resolution of the servo and (sadly) none of the manufacturers give us any information on this vital part.
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I use a Fut S3001, works well for me.
Remember, motor and gears are not the parts to question, the important bit is the feed-back pot inside the servo, it determins the resolution of the servo and (sadly) none of the manufacturers give us any information on this vital part.
I use a Fut S3001, works well for me.
Remember, motor and gears are not the parts to question, the important bit is the feed-back pot inside the servo, it determins the resolution of the servo and (sadly) none of the manufacturers give us any information on this vital part.
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It depends upon the size and type of model I am flying. However, at no time do I use really expensive servos for throttle.
For most .40 to .90 size models, I'll use whatever oddball servo I have lying around, as long as it is reliable and reasonably accurate. Too fast a servo can kill many engines, so, over the years, I've developed the habit of slow applications of throttle. That is how it is done in pattern. At least it was when I flew pattern.
A few years back, Tower was including a free housebrand servo with orders over a certain amount. I'm still working my way through those.
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RCPILET-how's them DS537's working out for you. I have five on the bench. I was thinking about swapping one in and taking out the futaba 148 on my ZDZ 120. I have never used the cheaper digitals. Just the 100 dollar ones. So I'm wondering if their will be a big gain in "precision."
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
ORIGINAL: Peter Burgess
I use a Fut S3001, works well for me.
Remember, motor and gears are not the parts to question, the important bit is the feed-back pot inside the servo, it determins the resolution of the servo and (sadly) none of the manufacturers give us any information on this vital part.
I use a Fut S3001, works well for me.
Remember, motor and gears are not the parts to question, the important bit is the feed-back pot inside the servo, it determins the resolution of the servo and (sadly) none of the manufacturers give us any information on this vital part.
Linearity is not much of an issue with our servos unless you plan to parallel two or three of them. Most of our linkages are highly nonlinear. In the case of the gas engine throttle, its response is nonlinear to the throttle position.
Manufacturer information would not be of much help.
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
Kinda funny, you guys apparently spend more time pondering what servo to use for the throttle than I do. But last week I had a funny experience...my SIG Sundancer with FPE 3.2, took off and shortly thereafter couldn't get any throttle response. The servo was a Futaba S 148 (I think), whatever used to come with a Futaba radio.
Anyway, I'm flying the Sundancer, WOT and no response, full tank of gas. Ok, don't beat me up, no kill switch. So a friend who was with me and and I spent twenty something minutes, taking turns, flying for a while, back and forth, until it finally ran out of gas. I have to hand it to that FPE, it never missed a beat. When it finally ran out of gas, glided in and landed at my feet.
The servo was dead... as in DED, dead. I put in a new 148, good to go.
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Anyway, I'm flying the Sundancer, WOT and no response, full tank of gas. Ok, don't beat me up, no kill switch. So a friend who was with me and and I spent twenty something minutes, taking turns, flying for a while, back and forth, until it finally ran out of gas. I have to hand it to that FPE, it never missed a beat. When it finally ran out of gas, glided in and landed at my feet.
The servo was dead... as in DED, dead. I put in a new 148, good to go.
Larry
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
A guy I know has an HS55 on his 100cc ZDZ and i was concerned about the gears stripping from the vibration of the motor. anyone had any problem with nylon gears stripping as a result of vibration on 35%?
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No vote on this one. My servo choice for a throttle is always to the one that most closely matches the speed and precision of everything else that's used in the plane. Silly to have high speed digital servos on all the flight surfaces and then use a cheap, slow, and inaccurate analog servo on the throttle. I just love it when my throttle response lags behind the rest of the plane by half a second or so.
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
I have been using a Hitec 6965 on throttles for quite some time, super fast (.08) and works just awesome. Pricey at ~$84, but I have had great success with this one and like to use what has worked for me before.
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Kinda funny, you guys apparently spend more time pondering what servo to use for the throttle than I do. But last week I had a funny experience...my SIG Sundancer with FPE 3.2, took off and shortly thereafter couldn't get any throttle response. The servo was a Futaba S 148 (I think), whatever used to come with a Futaba radio.
Anyway, I'm flying the Sundancer, WOT and no response, full tank of gas. Ok, don't beat me up, no kill switch. So a friend who was with me and and I spent twenty something minutes, taking turns, flying for a while, back and forth, until it finally ran out of gas. I have to hand it to that FPE, it never missed a beat. When it finally ran out of gas, glided in and landed at my feet.
The servo was dead... as in DED, dead. I put in a new 148, good to go.
Larry
Kinda funny, you guys apparently spend more time pondering what servo to use for the throttle than I do. But last week I had a funny experience...my SIG Sundancer with FPE 3.2, took off and shortly thereafter couldn't get any throttle response. The servo was a Futaba S 148 (I think), whatever used to come with a Futaba radio.
Anyway, I'm flying the Sundancer, WOT and no response, full tank of gas. Ok, don't beat me up, no kill switch. So a friend who was with me and and I spent twenty something minutes, taking turns, flying for a while, back and forth, until it finally ran out of gas. I have to hand it to that FPE, it never missed a beat. When it finally ran out of gas, glided in and landed at my feet.
The servo was dead... as in DED, dead. I put in a new 148, good to go.
Larry
Lesson learned. Put just enough fuel in it for 15-17 minutes and thats all. Thats what timers are for. When it beeps, you land. Slap a 28oz tank in your 50cc gasser and you'll be flying for about an hour before it runs outta gas. [X(]
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RE: Throttle Servo Choices
2 weeks ago I had a nylon geared servo fail me so no more nylon gears on my gassers, a composite geared servo replaced it... I did have a smart fly cutoff which saved my plane, the failure happened on landing with some power on and plane was heading toward fence at end of my runway!