kwjames

Jim why the extra wood behing the blind nuts on just one of the motor mounts.

Ken

jstanton

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Ken,

I drilled the holes a little larger than I needed. I added the extra plywood supports for a little more holding strength.

kwjames

Has anybody tried the 36 with a tuned pipe yet.
Ken

kwjames

Still waiting for my 36. It has only been 2 weeks but I was waiting to get the money for a motor for 4 months. Hoping to get my Ultra RC Giles going by mid July.
Ken

pumbadog

Good luck. I've been waiting a month and 3 weeks for mine.

kwjames

On the Brillelli Web-site it said that the 36 was out of stock for some time. I see that it no longer says that so Scott must have got more parts in so he can fill orders again. Perhaps your wait and mine will not be much longer.
Ken

pumbadog

Between Toledo, Scott running out of engines to modify and having trouble getting more from the supplier and Scott getting himself into a spinning prop. My order was bad timing. I'm still trying to wait patiently though.

jstanton

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Be patient guy's. Believe me it will be worth the wait.

I am almost finished with my Build of the UltraRC Giles with the 36GT in it and I hope to break-in the engine this week. Next week I hope to do the maiden flight. I talked to Scott about this combo and he thinks a MAS 20x6 prop might be better that a Xoar 20x8 becasue the 20x6 even through not as good a prop as the Xoar will alow the engine to spin up higher. This will get more into the power range of the 36GT. I am giving it a try and I'll let you all know how it goes.

propshaft

Pumbadog and kwjames,
I'm sorry to see that so few people seem to have these engines yet. That explains the relative drought of performance reports. I've had my engine for a while now and if it is any concillation to you, after having used the engine and getting to appreciate its qualities, if I knew I'd have to wait a while for another engine I'd probably consider it worthwhile to wait. This engine seems "just right" for the new light weight planes at around 78" wingspan like the 29% Giles. It has very few serious competitors in this niche that are comparable in power/weight, price and quality. I hope Brillelli will start cranking out more engines soon. I'd like to see more performance data on different props.

propshaft

Jim,
Having flown the Giles/36GT combo with both the Xoar 20x8 and the MAS 20x6, I have to disagree with Scott on this one. The engine does achieve higher rpm on the MAS prop, but the power does not translate into more useful thrust while flying. Even at maximum throttle flying vertically upward out of a hover, where you would expect the advantage of higher power associated with higher rpm on this engine to be the greatest, the Xoar seems to pull harder. It is probably a prop quality issue rather than a prop pitch issue. Maybe I've just got a bad MAS, but I think a Xoar 20x6 would be a better comparison. Anyhow, it is like getting used to a marginally faster computer, performance on the Xoar 20x8 is only marginally better than on the MAS 20x6 and if you have not been spoiled using a Xoar you won't miss it .

I received a Xoar 18x8 last week. If the rain lets up this weekend I will try it out.

RPool

Gentlemen, any ideas on how this engine might compare to the Evo 35gt? I have ordered the new Hanger 9 Sundowner (F-1) and they recommend a 25 to 35cc engine. Until today, I hadn't really thought of an alternative. Since this will be my very first gas engine, I'd love any input you might have for me.

vettebob

I got my 36GT Thursday I had to order some aluminum to make some different mounts. The ones that came with the motor won't work for my application. I will post pics when I get them made. Bob

kwjames

Take a look at what it would cost you to buy a new ignition for a Evo engine if you have a problem past warranty period or have some crash damage to the unit. I was looking at getting the Evo 26 which was costly to start with for the size of engine it is. Then I seen that a new ignition would cost $225.00 to replace. I believe Scott told me he would sell me a new ignition for his 36 at around $75.00. If you read this thread and the ones on the Brillelli 46 and 60 you will see nothing but praise for the engines. I have never owned a Brillelli but have placed great value on all the people that have nothing but good to say about Scott and the engines he puts out. Then again maybe you have used Evo engines in the past and have had great service from them. If however you are like me and new to the subject of gas engines then you must trust the reports of others. All the things I have read (cost of engine, weight, other items included with engine and service) has lead me to order the Brillelli 36.
Ken

jstanton

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Propshaft,

I have a Xoar 20x8 prop and thre MAS 20x6 prop. I wanted a Xoar 20x6 but they don't make a 20x6 and MAS is the only one I could find in that size and pitch. I will be testing my engine this week when my ignition gets back from Roy. I had to send it in for an upgrade that it needed. I have the plane all finished and I cannot wait to give it a try.

propshaft

I had a chance to test the Xoar 18x8 yesterday. Top rpm was 7750. Static thrust was 18.5 lbs!!! This one is a keeper.

I noticed radio glitches. After landing I discovered that the metal casing of the spark plug lead had rubbed through on the edge of the cowling.
I need advice from the gas ignition experts out there. Is this likely to be the cause of radio interference and can this be a DIY repair?

Jim,
I'm glad to hear you'll be flying soon. Good luck with the maiden flight.

Jake Ruddy

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WOuld be nice to see a pic.

You have to make sure you wire tie things in the cowl... that fiberglass will cut through a muffler if it's touching

propshaft

Here is a picture.

Maudib

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This is another nice feature of my FiberFinish... it helps prevent this type of damage.... it's very likely this have caused an RF leak and is being pickep up by the receiver...

I believe you can shrink wrap a piece of that braided sheilding ove rthe rubbed spot and "fix" the issue... contact Scott to get his recommendation...

Here's a couple shots of the FIbeFinish I sell...

Jake Ruddy

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Prop... ya you need to cut a hole where the cable is for sure and tighten it up so that cable cant touch.

That stuff that Maubid sells seems cool too.. seen it a couple times but havent tried any yet... maybe have to get some pricing

jstanton

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Propshaft,

I just finished the Giles tonight. I am waiting for my S/S ignition to be retured from Roy Sholl. He is upgrading it for me and it should be back her this week. I post some PIC's tomorrow. I'll be getting a Xoar 18x8 prop to test along with my Xoar 20x8 and MAS 20x6. It will be interesting to see how our #'s compare.

jstanton

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Propshaft,

How did you measure your thrust with the props? I just calcuated the RPM's you gave with a thrust calculator and it did say 18.5lbs of thrust, but these calcuators are known not to be very accurate. Most rate the trust higher than they reqally are. If you got 18.5lbs of thrust using a digital scale than the Xoar 18x8 prop maybe the on to use.

propshaft

Jim,
I use a digital fish scale, hooked to a length of rope attached to the airplane. I simply open the throttle and hang on to the scale.

When you test different makes of the same length x pitch prop, you tend to get quite a bit of variation in thrust. Using a calculator can be a rough guide at best.

I also don't put all my stock into the maximum static thrust. Most of us fly vertically at full throttle for only a fraction of the time. How the prop performs overall at various speeds and attitudes is more important, and that can only be judged by flying with it.

The Dynaflite 18x6 prop is a good example. It gives relatively poor static thrust, but for sport flying the Giles at mostly partial throttle it actually does a nice job.

jstanton

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Propshaft,

Thanks for the info. i fell much better knowing you used a fish scale and not a thrust calculator. It looks like I'll be using the Xoar 18x8 prop along with the 20x8 and MAS 20x6 prop for testing. I see if my #'s come close to yours.

jstanton

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Here are the pics of my completed UltraRC 29% Giles-202. It is powered with a Brillelli 36GT engine and the best thing is it weigh's in at 11lbs on the nose. I cannot wait to put this bird in the air.

Scott Ellingson

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That could cause some RFI. An easy fix would be to use some aluminum foil over the hole and secure it down with some teflon tape or somthing like that. The tape will also protect the wire. Fiberglass will cut through a plug wire in no time. I have seen a plug wire cut all the way to the center in one flight.