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Old 08-17-2010, 10:35 AM
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Hey guys, I ran my new rear carb dle-30 today for the first time today. Ran really well and held a really low idle. I was kinda concerned though, there seemed to be alot of vibration and I know I balanced my prop. Im using a xoar 18x8 prop, the white one. Well after shutting the engine down and inspecting everything I noticed that some of the white paint was gone on the prop, where my chicken stick was rubbing from starting it. So im pretty sure thats the reason why I had some vibration. In my opinion a unbalanced prop thats of just a hair will make a difference. Anyway, all in all the lil engine seems to be a power house and will make a good combo for my new hangar 9 taylorcraft.
Old 08-17-2010, 11:41 AM
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If you can get a real heavy leather glove...chicken sticks ruin wood props. Capt,n
Old 08-17-2010, 12:04 PM
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Yea im affraid your rite, thats the second prop that has done that. Just called valley view and ordered another prop, I whent with a regular beechwood prop though. Man guys im really pumped up about this engine, its my third dle engine and they havent let me down yet. This one is my first gas engine this small and its just like the 55's, it starts good, holds a good idle and its light weight. I just checked that white xoar prop that I had used and its of balance, not real bad but it is of.
Old 08-17-2010, 01:27 PM
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My DLE30c Idles quite smooth at about 1700 RPM,s ...a little slower it is not quite as smooth...but not bad at all. Capt,n
Old 08-17-2010, 02:14 PM
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I have seen a few guys at the field use those soft yet sturdy paint rollers for starting the bigger engines. It bet it will save the paint on your xoars. Plus, your hand doesnt have to become a statistic by accident. I think I will give it a try on my next gasser. Just my .02
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:14 PM
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If you're scared the 30 is small enough to still use a starter.
Old 08-17-2010, 05:01 PM
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I have no use for a electric starter....they mess up the spinner...the compression makes them slip. My DLE30cc with a Frank boman ring cranks harder now. Capt,n
Old 08-17-2010, 05:23 PM
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Yea not sure if I could put a starter on my new tru turn spinner, before long they start getting that ring around the cone and it looks crazy. Its not that im scared its just ive been bit a few times lol. That paint roller idea really dont sound to bad as soft as they are it shouldnt ruin the paint.
Old 08-17-2010, 05:31 PM
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Crankin those Gas engines is like Golf, as long as you follow thru with your stroke of the hand and out of the way, its almost impossible to get bit! You just can't get in a hurry. I like the feel of knowing what the compression feels like as your cranking it over. But again, its all a flyers choice and thats whats so great about our hobby, by gosh, as long as safety is followed, you can do anything you want to do! Fly on Brothers!
Old 08-17-2010, 06:38 PM
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My DLE30c Idles quite smooth at about 1700 RPM,s ...a little slower it is not quite as smooth...but not bad at all. Capt,n
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With what prop and what is WOT RPM
Old 08-17-2010, 06:49 PM
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All my gassers start so easily, if you need an electric starter, something is not correct.
Old 08-17-2010, 06:51 PM
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Yep, mine are the same. three flips with choke till it coughs, then 2 flips with choke off and your in business.
Old 08-17-2010, 07:31 PM
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Not with a ZDZ
Old 08-17-2010, 07:43 PM
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My DLE30c Idles quite smooth at about 1700 RPM,s ...a little slower it is not quite as smooth...but not bad at all. Capt,n
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<hr />I just go by how it pulls...and it pulls hard with a 18x6-10 Zinger. It puls hard with a 20x6 Master Airscrew Hard Wood- Maple. The RPM is different in the air anyway! Capt,n
Old 08-17-2010, 08:15 PM
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Don't be afraid of it, just follow through when starting.
Old 08-17-2010, 08:16 PM
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Does anyone know what the threads (for a threaded ball or ball link bolt hook up) are on the supplied throttle arm. 2-56? 2mm? Thanks I need to know so I can order one of the new sullivan ball link setups

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Old 08-17-2010, 10:28 PM
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good or bad I am a lefty so I am hesitant to flip barehanded .sorry gotta have a stick..fortnuately gassers flip easy.
Old 08-17-2010, 11:54 PM
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I am a lefty too and find it helps because my hand is going down and away from when I hand prop

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Old 08-18-2010, 12:19 AM
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I'm a lefty but eventually learned to flip right handed.

The guy I fly with is also left handed but he flips right handed.
Old 08-18-2010, 04:04 AM
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Couldn't tell you. I just tapped it for a 2-56 ball link and was good to go.
Old 08-18-2010, 06:25 AM
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which postion is best for a lefty ?12 or 2.?I know its easier to flip it by hand and I understand how a starter screws a expensive tru turn spinner but I like having my hand and all my fingers.I worked in hospital over 30 years and saw several examples of hand starting gone bad.admittedly your crazy starting a 4 strker barehanded thet have a nasty kickback.I think I will use a stick for the time being.I cant say I like a starter eitherand while I used it alot in earlier years I got my engines mostly satios to start with very few cranks.when you go from a 14 or 16 prop to a 18 and 20 inch it can be intimidating at first. what has always scared me is when modellers hover over the prop while its starting.I guess all I am saying I error on the side of safety.thats just me and I am not trying to get anyone mad.now what were we talking about lol.yeah 12 or 2?
Old 08-18-2010, 07:12 AM
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which postion is best for a lefty ?12 or 2.?I know its easier to flip it by hand and I understand how a starter screws a expensive tru turn spinner but I like having my hand and all my fingers.I worked in hospital over 30 years and saw several examples of hand starting gone bad.admittedly your crazy starting a 4 strker barehanded thet have a nasty kickback.I think I will use a stick for the time being.I cant say I like a starter eitherand while I used it alot in earlier years I got my engines mostly satios to start with very few cranks.when you go from a 14 or 16 prop to a 18 and 20 inch it can be intimidating at first. what has always scared me is when modellers hover over the prop while its starting.I guess all I am saying I error on the side of safety.thats just me and I am not trying to get anyone mad.now what were we talking about lol.yeah 12 or 2?
Maybe consider the potential for prop damage during a dead stick landing? There's a pretty good chance of a "less than gracefull" landing under some circumstances, and having the blade positioned properly to minimize the chances of damage might save quite a few bucks in the course of a flying season. I hand start always, have found I'm fine with the prop at 2-3:00 FWIW
Old 08-18-2010, 10:09 AM
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I just installed the VVRC single bolt adapter. It is a piece of cake, especially with an impact wrench. I held the shaft with my hand and with a 11mm deep well socket on my Milwaukee impact wrench, it spun off easily. I cut the shaft nut on my lathe so it is square, no problem!
Old 08-18-2010, 02:38 PM
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I just ordered a 30 for my KMP Sea Fury (had an O.S. 1.60 on it) and it sounds like the Bowman ring makes a considerable difference in the 30. Does anyone have a number or website for Frank Bowman? Also, can the ring be swapped by hand, or do you need ring pliers? I may have a pair hiding somewhere.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:04 PM
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Frank can be reached at [email protected] You can use your fingers. Just note the original way the ring fits around the pin in the ring grove before you take it off. Also run the new ring around the ring grove to make sure there is no binding. Frank also includes directions with the ring.


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