Tibcsyke

Hi All,

Has anyone any experience with this gas engine?I would plan it in a 29%katana but i didn't find any feedback about this engine.


http://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITEDH..._5.2HP/7500RPM


happy landing

nearlythere

They are an RCGFaccording to the ignition in the picture shown

Atotal P.O.S from my experiences with them

Unreliable, and hard to start,even on the RCGFthreadthe factory posted a video of those engines on a 4 engineC130.In the video they are so very proud of the guy needs an electric starter to get them running and they are not running very well. If that is the best they can do, it is sad.

Those same engines can be purchased from a number of companies,including GRPro (Iam fairly sure they are the same company - they have the exact same engines for sale), SVand others.

E-bay is full of RCGFengines, there must be a reaon for that.

Walt and Sage

Must be NEW, You SURE have ME interested...
I purchased a TURNIGY 50hp motor from them and It is one SWEET motor

Walt and Sage

Well maybe that is why it is $209...
NO SO interested now... Walt

thevirginian

Look like another DA or DL-50 killer to me.

cold_reboot

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Walt, I'd be suspicious of anyone with 2 posts and joined the same day he/she posted a derogatory response such as that and hasn't been back since. Some importers of the Chinese engines here in the states (and other importers in other countries for that matter) are rather angry with the Manufacturers in China at offering the engines they are importing and try to sell to you stateside for $350 through "other online means" and selling them at a vastly reduced price...capitalism at it's finest. It's a known fact that some people on RC related message boards (who also happen to be sellers) will create a new identity and either bash something or provide a glowing review to either discourage you or encourage you, respectively.

The next thing you'll hear is "what about warranty service, what are you going to do if something go's wrong?". These two stroke engines are very simple internal combustion engines. They aren't complicated....at all, the most complicated thing you'll ever do on one is set the timing. The carbs on these things (if not a true Walbro) are still walbro "clones" and can be rebuilt with a cheap rebuild kit you can get at your local Stihl or similar service center. The engine parts themselves (for spares or replacements), I've found to be dirt cheap. If you decide to buy one from a site like HobbyKing, I'd tear it down when it arrived, check for metal shavings from the manufacturing process, clean out the engine if you do find anything. Check the bearings, if they look suspect to you feel free to replace them with some Bocas or other well known bearing if it gives you piece of mind. This is all pretty standard for ANY engine, gas, glow or otherwise. P.S. your "warranty" is likely figured into the price your paying for the engine, works the same way on the vehicle parked in your driveway.

The next thing you'll hear is "engine price is the wrong reason to pick an engine", or conversely, "You get what you pay for". No, actually you pay for marketting, packaging, company employee healthcare, paid vacations, sick days, union dues and any number of other things, properly marked up, taxed, and delivered to you with a smile here in the states. This statement is true if money is no object, but most of us ARE on a budget and the introduction of the Chinese engines are the only reason we can AFFORD to get into giant scale airplanes. Otherwise we'd all be flying $700 dollar engines.

Wanna hear something insane guys! I've been riding two stroke dirt bikes since I was 5 years old (I'm 33 now). Those six and seven thousand dollar bikes don't have a warranty!! If you take it home, fill it up, run it lean and lock it up... your screwed! This is why I've always worked on my own for 17 years (which go's back to two strokes are simple engines).

Do SuperTiger, Magnum and any other number of glow engines being made in China stop people from buying them?, No. It's usually a bad experience that turns people away, while a ton of others swear by them. If you go read the RCGF (or Magnum or SuperTiger) threads here you'll see a TON of people (around 160 pages for RCGF) love them. Magnum four strokes and SuperTiger two strokes are quite often used in reviews for aircraft in major publications and are often referred to IN PRINT as the best value for the money (I refer to a feature article a few months ago in Model Airplane News about the best deals in engines).

Despite what was said on the RCGF forum when I said I'd seen an "RCG" on HobbyKings site that I strongly believed was an RCGF according to the picture, I was told it's DEFFINATELY NOT an RCGF by an importer stateside. Despite the fact that a representative from RCGF China who apparently saw my comment and confirmed that it was an RCGF a few posts later, who knew they read this. The discussion stopped and it was no longer referenced.....publicly. I did get a PM from a disgruntled distributor, but I won't get into what I was told....or who said it. You can't blame RCGF for wanting to make money.... they are a business after all.

I still plan on getting the RCGF at some point. If you want to wait until I get mine, feel free. I plan on stripping it down upon arrival and snapping pics to include in an 84" ME109F build I'm starting in the next few months.

If I sound aggravated, I am. Get tired of all the mud slinging around here.

The Chinese Engine Mafia is getting out of hand.

Carpilot

I have one that I bought recently, I haven't flown it yet but it seems to run very well. I have about 30 min of run time on it on a test stand. seems quite good considering the price.

Piston

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[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7823494/mpage_188/key_/tm.htm#]RCG Info [/link]

Check my post 4687.... Change the engine size from RCG 26 to RCG 50 in that post. Most of the rest is the identical.

Good luck..

Cheers
Henry

JOHNS3D

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check this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjNV51WBZNI

SRCE has it in stock for $319 with 2 years warranty, not bad at all.

http://www.southeastrcengines.com/see_008.htm

apalsson

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Wrong again ... RCG and RCGF are two different beasts, different specs, different quality, different pricepoint

Carpilot

Yes the RCG I got was $199 plus shipping. the RCGF engines are more. note that the picture on Hobby Kings website of the RCG 50cc shows an RCGF ignition module next to it, but mine did not come with an RCGF ignition module.

cold_reboot

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RCGF and Rcexl had some sort of turmoil and Rcexl stopped providing ignitions to RCGF. I don't know where the current ignitions are sourced from, but read that RCGF is supposed to obtaining ignitions from some other electronics company (I don't know if the current crop are the new ones or only a temporary replacement until the new ones are available). You could always buy an Rcexl ignition separately and use it if you so chose.

[link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCy9uI0X9ZA&feature=related[/link] This is the RCG 50 from HobbyKing

JOHNS3D

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well, investing $100 bucks more doesnt seems to be bad then

Walt and Sage

Gentleman:

Since post #1 above, I have purchased three RCG 50cc motors....
Have 74 hard 3D flights on one motor and it has NEVER missed a beat..
Have installed a CM6 in all of them...

Have them at my door in 6 to 10 working days....
At $199 I am thinking of maybe one for parts....

Carpilot

That is good to hear, my RCG 50 is going into a 3D plane, I don't have as much hobby money as I used to, so I have to make it go farther. this engine helps alot!

oriole

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Hi,

With the Stock Standoffs, what is the distance between the firewall and the propeller backplate?

Thank you,

Oriole

Tired Old Man

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So are you planning on seeking out a plane that will use that dimension to fit the engine?

oriole

My Feedback: (19)

Have a plane which is glow and wish to convert to gas. So do you have that dimension?

Stick2000

Oriole, the distance is 174mm.

Stick2k

vasek

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Is there some wiggling room to shorten the standoffs? I need a 160mm to the firewall. Is it feasible?

Thanks,V.

Stick2000

It's feasible if you cut a hole in the firewall for the rear end of the carb and use shorter
standoffs. You have about 8mm of clearence with the choke in open mode, so you
only have to make room for 6mm more.

Stick2K

vasek

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Thanks Stick, that's all i needed to know

Frankcm1

Since you are experienced with the RCG 50cc engine; I have a few questions.

1. Does it come with a mounting template or does it use the same template for a DA-50?

2. Does it use the same propellar drill jig for a DLE-55?

3. Which oil did you break it in with?


Thanks for your response,


Frank

Stick2000

Hi Frank,


1. No template, but fits DA 50-DLE 55 template.

2. Same prop drill jig DLE 55.

3. I used Pensoil two cycle oil for break in (30/1)

Stick2K

Frankcm1

Thanks! :-)