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Old 10-29-2009, 10:34 PM
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What are using for your gasser for fuel line inside the tank-This tygon is not holding up very well-gets very stiff quick-thanks
Old 10-29-2009, 10:45 PM
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I use the black neoprene inside the tank

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXD735&P=ML





Even then you need to replace it every year

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I used to swear by Hayes neoprene. I had a lot of problems with it coming apart and gumming up my carb screen in two engines this summer. I finally gutted the tanks and re-did them with tygon. Problems are all gone but will return when the tygon gets stiff. Stiff clunk lines can be disastrous to a plane.

This is what I'll use when I re-plumb my tanks this winter when the snow falls:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5119k41/=48tdw2

It's called Viton and is supposed to be very good for clunk line. But only use it inside the tanks of course. It's not cheap. I've heard that this is what many commercial engine applications use (weed wackers, snow blowers etc). Doesn't deteriorate or stiffen up. Lasts a long time.
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I used to swear by Hayes neoprene. I had a lot of problems with it coming apart and gumming up my carb screen in two engines this summer. I finally gutted the tanks and re-did them with tygon. Problems are all gone but will return when the tygon gets stiff. Stiff clunk lines can be disastrous to a plane.

This is what I'll use when I re-plumb my tanks this winter when the snow falls:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5119k41/=48tdw2

It's called Viton and is supposed to be very good for clunk line. But only use it inside the tanks of course. It's not cheap. I've heard that this is what many commercial engine applications use (weed wackers, snow blowers etc). Doesn't deteriorate or stiffen up. Lasts a long time.
That looks like some good stuff

$3.61/ft seems rather high priced but if it saves you model . . . .

Old 10-30-2009, 10:29 AM
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THANK YOU for the info...
THREE feet can do a number of tanks...

I am going to try some....
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Credit goes to smarter guys than me who have recommended it. There's a guy named Lee (RCaddiction) on the other site that told me about it. There are guys on this site that know about it and like it too. I ordered three feet to do my two tanks on my gassers. I have two clunk tanks so that's 2 foot right there. [X(]

Upon examining it when it arrived, looks and feels very flexible. In between tygon and neoprene. Thing is it should stay felxible and not stiffen up on you. Let's hope this is the end of our search for the best clunk gas line. I know I'm tired of looking.
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I placed an order today, THANKs
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thanks for the info-jmc
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I have some on the way from my engine supplier. He recommends it as well. Some of my planes are due to have the tanks replumbed this winter so they will be getting some to try.
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Has anyone tried the K&S Sta-flex fuel line? The price looks good from Tower for a 25' roll.
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ORIGINAL: JoeAirPort

I used to swear by Hayes neoprene. I had a lot of problems with it coming apart and gumming up my carb screen in two engines this summer. I finally gutted the tanks and re-did them with tygon. Problems are all gone but will return when the tygon gets stiff. Stiff clunk lines can be disastrous to a plane.

This is what I'll use when I re-plumb my tanks this winter when the snow falls:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5119k41/=48tdw2

It's called Viton and is supposed to be very good for clunk line. But only use it inside the tanks of course. It's not cheap. I've heard that this is what many commercial engine applications use (weed wackers, snow blowers etc). Doesn't deteriorate or stiffen up. Lasts a long time.

At the website it states that "To be used for = Ethylene Glycol, water" are you sure it is OK to use with gasoline?
Old 10-31-2009, 08:27 AM
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I think I was one of those "old posters" about using the Viton....it's not a secret...it works perfectly, stays soft and pliable, and is absolutely gas/oil proof. It's perfect for smoke systems, too, because of the temp. resistance.
The only two drawbacks (and they are not a problem for many) is the stuff is expensive, and it's not transparent.
I prefer total reliability and long life, so neither of those are obstacles to me.

Use the Viton....you won't regret it, and many of us haveused it for years.
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ORIGINAL: rcairflr


ORIGINAL: JoeAirPort

I used to swear by Hayes neoprene. I had a lot of problems with it coming apart and gumming up my carb screen in two engines this summer. I finally gutted the tanks and re-did them with tygon. Problems are all gone but will return when the tygon gets stiff. Stiff clunk lines can be disastrous to a plane.

This is what I'll use when I re-plumb my tanks this winter when the snow falls:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5119k41/=48tdw2

It's called Viton and is supposed to be very good for clunk line. But only use it inside the tanks of course. It's not cheap. I've heard that this is what many commercial engine applications use (weed wackers, snow blowers etc). Doesn't deteriorate or stiffen up. Lasts a long time.

At the website it states that ''To be used for = Ethylene Glycol, water'' are you sure it is OK to use with gasoline?
Where did you get the Hayes fuel line that gummed up? I hope it was not Tower H. because that is where I just bought some Hayes fuel line. I have used it before with no problem????
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I just got some of the Hayes from Tower to try and it looks kind of flattened out. I'm afraid to try it after hearing some of the comments about it. Maybe I will get some Viton tubing.
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The Hayes that fell apert on me was from Tower.
Old 10-31-2009, 09:42 AM
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Here's the chemical compatibiity chart for Tygon tubing, the yellow stuff is F 4040 A. You can judge for yourself.
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that is way above my head.
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ORIGINAL: Super08

The Hayes that fell apert on me was from Tower.
OH Sh_T looks like I am going to get rid of that line[:@][:@] Tower probably buys the rejected batch at a lower $$$
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ORIGINAL: JoeAirPort

I used to swear by Hayes neoprene. I had a lot of problems with it coming apart and gumming up my carb screen in two engines this summer. I finally gutted the tanks and re-did them with tygon. Problems are all gone but will return when the tygon gets stiff. Stiff clunk lines can be disastrous to a plane.

This is what I'll use when I re-plumb my tanks this winter when the snow falls:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5119k41/=48tdw2

It's called Viton and is supposed to be very good for clunk line. But only use it inside the tanks of course. It's not cheap. I've heard that this is what many commercial engine applications use (weed wackers, snow blowers etc). Doesn't deteriorate or stiffen up. Lasts a long time.

At the website it states that ''To be used for = Ethylene Glycol, water'' are you sure it is OK to use with gasoline?
Where did you get the Hayes fuel line that gummed up? I hope it was not Tower H. because that is where I just bought some Hayes fuel line. I have used it before with no problem????
Yes I got it from Tower. Many people started to have it come apart on them (there are recent threads here I think). I had my carb screens plugging up. Since getting rid of the Hayes this problem is gone. I used to think the Hayes neoprene was the best stuff in the world. Oh well. One nice thing about Viton is that I no longer have to break my clunk line in two with a brass nipple in the middle (because the Hayes was too flexible). I think the Viton won't need it. It's flexible but not as flexible as Hayes. And I've heard that Viton stays the same, doesn't stiffen up. They better not change the formula for Viton now !!!!!
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One nice thing about Viton is that I no longer have to break my clunk line in two with a brass nipple in the middle (because the Hayes was too flexible). I think the Viton won't need it. It's flexible but not as flexible as Hayes
You just answered my next question cause' it's plumbing season all over again!
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Does the Viton come in different diameters ?

What diameter am I looking for using G-26 thru G-62 size engines ?
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Soft, 1/8" ID, 1/4" OD, 1/16" Wall, Black
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" ORIGINAL: Bob Pastorello



Use the Viton....you won't regret it, and many of us have used it for years. "


WOW ! Hey Bob, at $3.61 per foot, how sure are you that this stuff will hold up ?

Last time I heard, was that Hayes black neoprene was the ultimate tubing, and now I read where it's going bad ? ? ?
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Some info from an older thread.. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_90..._1/key_/tm.htm

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