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Old 12-12-2009, 09:04 PM
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I just received my new SPE 43cc motor, I plan to break it in on the plane, I am thinking 1 tank on the ground(24oz) and the rest in flight. The manuel shows the gas mixture to be 100 to 1 for break in and regular flight. Why in the world would you break a motor in with almost no oil?
What is a good percentage for break-in?

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Old 12-12-2009, 09:12 PM
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Wow-I would'n run 100:1 ANYTIME-much less during breakin. 32:1 is what was recommended to me.
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should be interesting to know why the MANUAL says that.
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Get Pennzoil Aircooled run it ALL the time at 32:1, your motor will love you for it.[sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]
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tell it like it is soarrich
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For over 20 years I have used nothing but Amsoil mixed 80-1, 2 oz to a gallon, and have perfect results. Looper
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Run down to the local hardware store and pick up a bottle of Stihl or Echo mineral based chainsaw oil. Mix at 32-1. Run the engine on the ground long enough to get it tuned and go fly. Burn 3 hours of gas and then switch oils and ratios if you want. SPE must like to handle a lot of customer returns. That's the only reason i can come up with for a 100-1 mix. Their engines aren't good enough to handle that. Then again, I don't know an engine that really is...
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ORIGINAL: Looper

For over 20 years I have used nothing but Amsoil mixed 80-1, 2 oz to a gallon, and have perfect results. Looper
2 oz. per gallon is not 80:1, it's 64:1....
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If he has a Imperial gal gas can it is 80:1

I use a Imperial Gal can to mix 20:1 for my Saito gas engine.

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Old 12-12-2009, 11:50 PM
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I was just going by what he said......

For an Imperial gallon, that would be pretty close.
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I don't know how it is in TN but I went to the discount store and tried my best to find a US gallon gas can and they were all imperial cans with a 1 US Gal mark on them. It came in handy for the Saito FG-20.

I have a two US gal can for my other engines that I use for 32:1 in.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:49 AM
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In Tn, we don't care what size the can is when mixing oil with the gas, we (I) go by what the pump says at the gas station. I've checked a couple of cans that were marked 1 gallon, 1.5 gallon etc. and they were really off. I just don't trust them.
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I only trust the gas pump also
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Ya....if the pump says 1 gallon you pumped...it will never be on the + side or more that a actual gallon of gas. Anything over a gallon leans your oil to gas ratio! Capt,n[X(]
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T.O.M. - In the past you mentioned that Pennzoil 2-Cycle Air-Cooled was a good oil to use but not for break-in. Could you tell me why?
I was planning to use it for both break-in and thereafter untill I saw your comment in another post.

Thanks for your time...Brian
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well i think if we acutal put any oil in the motor thsese RC motors are going to be happy. I have used various brands and for the past 4-5 years i have been with penszoil from break in. for me it so much easier to now just run this deal.
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Pennzoil is an excellent oil for general running, but there have been many instances where it's use during the break in indicated that it did not carry the early wear particulates up and out of the engine as well as some others. I don't like seeing scratched piston skirts after a break in when other products leave the piston skirt with a new condition appearance. Scratches on the skirts is where later deposites of anti wear additives will accumulate first if the engine is ever run hot enough to cook them out of the oil. That is a process that occurs at a lower temp using a mineral than it does with a good synthetic.

Personally, I prefer the use of a better synthetic from start to finish with an engine, and there are hundreds of examples that have proven that to work the best. However, some feel they need to break an engine in faster so they prefer a mineral.
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Thanks for the information T.O.M., I appreciate it....Brian
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Hmmm
After reading my oil collection chart, MVVS advised me to prohibit Pennzoil and Amsoil, and any other oil that mixed leaner than 1:40. They were very clear about that.
Pennzoil because it was Dino oil, Amsoil because it mixed too lean. The front seals need more oil. Without the seals, things could be well different.
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BTW,

A 100-1 mix for a break in might do that break in process mighty fast. Sure hope it doesn't sieze in the process.
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I broke in my engine with about 1.5 gallons of lawnboy 32:1. Now im running 50:1 home depot special. Ive tried amsoil 80:1 and penzoil 40:1 and didn't notice any difference.
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I broke in my engine with about 1.5 gallons of lawnboy 32:1. Now im running 50:1 home depot special. Ive tried amsoil 80:1 and penzoil 40:1 and didn't notice any difference.
use Belray, Stilh Ultra....really good oils.
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