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Old 01-04-2011, 04:36 PM
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To ahicks, a1pcfixer
Thanks guys for your comment.
I flied the jug this morning and go with MAS 16 x 8 classic series and yes its performed much better, but after 2 times flying  the engine start to sounds weird (click click click), I'm using 95 octane petrol and klotz oil with 30 : 1 ratio. I will find out what happen to the engine.

Microdon2
I've seen the video '"DLE20cc and Revolver 70". and I think to buy a new DLE 20. Thanks
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Why does everybody think that an engine that only makes 14 lbs of thrust is better than an engine that makes 16+ lbs of thrust? I have three crrc 26s and all of them will turn a vess 18x6 prop at-least 8200. My oldest crrc engine that i have been flying for three years. will turn a Vess 18x6 8470 rpm.
Old 01-04-2011, 05:38 PM
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I have a snowblower 2 cycle engine. It works in all kindof frigid weather. It is 25 years old andstill going st rong. I have an RCGf 15 that I put a hundred flights last year off the snow.
It was flown in 12 and15 degree weather. Still runs like new.
The snow blower is different....mostly enclosed & under more ofa load most the time. Are airplanes are not really loaded the same as a snowblower. Also once broke in & with the carb set right the small RC gas engines are good to go. Just warm them up good first. Capt,n
Old 01-04-2011, 05:51 PM
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CaptinJohn - I like the sock idea. Would you recommend that for a 50cc gasser, too? Or just these smaller engines? And at what temp would you recommend we start using the sock? Thanks.
If it is beolw 32 (freezing) it may be good to use a sock. Just like your feet...the more heavy sock may be to thick....you got to experiment a little. Even putting a piece of foam between rear of crankcase & fire wall can really help. I did that with my DLE30cc when it was side induction. Now it is rear induction. You could easy sew onvelcroto socks for a quick change tothick, thin or none...pretty easy to do. Capt,n 32-40 use thin sock.
Old 01-04-2011, 06:45 PM
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I have a snowblower 2 cycle engine. It works in all kindof frigid weather. It is 25 years old andstill going st rong. I have an RCGf 15 that I put a hundred flights last year off the snow.
It was flown in 12 and15 degree weather. Still runs like new.
The snow blower is different....mostly enclosed & under more ofa load most the time. Are airplanes are not really loaded the same as a snowblower. Also once broke in & with the carb set right the small RC gas engines are good to go. Just warm them up good first. Capt,n
I don't believe that a ringed engine isaffected by the cold as say a glow abc engine that has the tight fit at top when cold. My 15 RCGF is on a Big Stick 60. The engine is out in the elements. no cowl.
Old 01-04-2011, 09:15 PM
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I'm new to gas engines, so what will do better on a 1/4 scale Balsa USA cub the DLE 20 or The Dle 30?

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The DLE20 will do just fine
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Hi all. There are a lot of pages to go thru on this thread so forgive me if these questions have already been asked. Would the DLE20 be a good fit for a Carl Goldberg Edge 540 67" (http://www.carlgoldbergproducts.com/.../gbga1046.html)? If so, what would be a good location to mount the ignition box as the ignition box is too wide to mount on the side of the firewall box? Can I mount it on the inside or underneath? If I mount it underneath, would the heat from a pitts muffler affect it in any way? Also, would this mount be suitable for this engine (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...3&I=LXATG7&P=K) or will there be a lot of vibration? Thanks in advance for any responses..
Old 01-04-2011, 09:55 PM
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People are putting the ignition box and ignition batteries in the the tank compartment and the tank is moved to the rear over the CG.
Old 01-05-2011, 05:38 AM
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I'm new to gas engines, so what will do better on a 1/4 scale Balsa USA cub the DLE 20 or The Dle 30?

Mitchell
DLE 20 = Scale performance
DLE 30 = Sport performance

I've a 1/4 scale Cub with a ST 3250 glow (1.98 ci), I get about 17-18 lbs of thrust and I'm thinking to convert to a DLE 30.
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Why does everybody think that an engine that only makes 14 lbs of thrust is better than an engine that makes 16+ lbs of thrust? I have three crrc 26s and all of them will turn a vess 18x6 prop at-least 8200. My oldest crrc engine that i have been flying for three years. will turn a Vess 18x6 8470 rpm.
Just a reminder - this is the DLE-20 Gasser thread....


Old 01-05-2011, 06:24 AM
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Why does everybody think that an engine that only makes 14 lbs of thrust is better than an engine that makes 16+ lbs of thrust? I have three crrc 26s and all of them will turn a vess 18x6 prop at-least 8200. My oldest crrc engine that i have been flying for three years. will turn a Vess 18x6 8470 rpm.
Just a reminder - this is the DLE-20 Gasser thread....


Sorry, maybe I've misunderstood, but I think his is a relevant question. My take is he's indirectly asking about the statement regarding the DLE20 making more power than the CRRC 26? I would guess whoever made that statement originally may have been thinking CRRC V1 or the maybe regarding the fact the DLE 20 with less weight is capable of outperfoming the heavier CRRC engines - which might not apply in all instances IMHO? Dunno. I'll stick with my earlier reply stating similar power w/less weight - COULD lead to more perfomance. Maybe somebody else would like to expand on this more?
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Power to weight to weight ratio is better?
Old 01-05-2011, 06:33 AM
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Here is the throttle setup for the DLE-20 on my Velox. Pretty straight forward, 2-56 rod ends with a CF/titanuim pushrod. The Hitec 5685 is radically overkill for a throttle, but I am running a 7.4v system so all the servos have to be capable of 7.4 volts. The choke will be just manual since the cowling is open in that area.





And since I control the throttle with the servo, I cut off the throttle stop parts off of the carb. It saved 3 grams.

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very nice set up! where can one find those CF/tatanium push rods?

thanks
Old 01-05-2011, 07:38 AM
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Abell
http://www.abellhobby.com/category-s/342.htm
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http://www.centralhobbies.com/contro...e/pushrod2.htm
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Very sweet setup Ghofman, but I am wondering, even though you have the nylon ball ends which would isolate metal on metal contact, wouldn't the carbon fibre/titanium rods act like an antenna to radiate ignition noise into the radio area?? Carbon fibre is a good conductor of electricity, therfore can conduct Rf noise as well as act as a electrical sheild depending on setup and use. Just my 2 cents.
I just wouldn't chance it myself. Especially on a nice plane like yours. I know a few people have used your setup without problems, so take it for what it's worth.

Fly hard and low, Mike R
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...................My take is he's indirectly asking about the statement regarding the DLE20 making more power than the CRRC 26?...........Maybe somebody else would like to expand on this more?
For those here that are 'search challenged', it started here;
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9884196]Jody comments on eng........[/link]
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No, I have used this setup on 3 gassers now, no issues. The plastic ends and the epoxy bonds make it a non-conductor.
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...................My take is he's indirectly asking about the statement regarding the DLE20 making more power than the CRRC 26?...........Maybe somebody else would like to expand on this more?
For those here that are 'search challenged', it started here;
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9884196]Jody comments on eng........[/link]
FWIW, I'm entitled to an opinion - without doing a search.
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I just figured something out and thought I'd share. I've been wondering how to get a Voltwatch meter to show the power status of the battery that feeds the DLE20's electronic ignition. For the receiver\servo battery it's easy - just plug the Voltwatch into the receiver. But - no receiver to plug into for the EI battery. And you can use a power switch that has a "Green-Yellow-Red" LED, but that's not as granular as the Voltwatch. SO - just realized that I could use a Y-harness, in between the power switch and the EI - and plug the Voltwatch into the free Y branch. Works great!! So, when attaching my canopy now I'll have two wires to plug in, one for each Voltwatch. And I use colored tape around the wires to differentiate which is which. Added benefit - having two live Voltwatches now velcroed in to my cockpit dashboard makes it look more like a real cockpit! (Sorry if this is old news to lots of you, but I'm pretty new to gas and this kind of discovery still excites me!)
Old 01-05-2011, 11:57 AM
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Never heard of that, but I'll give it a shot.
Old 01-05-2011, 03:28 PM
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I'm not trying to hijack the thread but if you sell both engines why would you claim that one engine has more power than another,especially if it doesn't. For the record power to weight is not better. My scales show 11oz difference in weight and almost 2lbs more thrust. On the other hand I like the craftsmanship in the dle engine a whole lot better. I just wish there was a jug that would angle the plug back on both engines and use 1/4 32 rimfires with a plug cap like the jba 90.
Old 01-05-2011, 03:46 PM
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captinjohn, Back on page 6 post #132 what airplane is the orange profile (and what engine) is sure is a beauty. I'm always looking for an interesting profile to stick something on, maybe a DLE20. Thanks jim


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