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Old 02-19-2011, 09:35 AM
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Has anybody tried a 3 blade prop and what were your impressions. The reason that I'm asking is that I would like to install my DLE 20 in a trike gear Simla and need prop clearance that I can't get with a 16 or 17'' prop.
Thanks!
I have tried MA 15x7 and 16x8 3 bladed on my beatup Funtana 90. Compared to APC 17x6 singl, the 15x7 does not load the engine enough and has say 8% less in-air performance. The 16x8 is closer say 5% less.
Old 02-19-2011, 09:53 AM
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Finally found some NGK's locally. (NAPA) Here are some pictures for those who have not seen the difference. I hope this plug cures my stalling, sputtering issue. Find out if the winds ever die down.
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Old 02-19-2011, 10:43 AM
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We just flew a DLE20 with 16x8 Haoye nylon prop today (not at all a great prop but what we had) , running on 30cc cannister. Man is it a sweet setup. 7800 and quieter than the guy next to us using a saito 100 - was really amazed, in fact in the air you cant even hear it idle
Old 02-19-2011, 10:47 AM
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.......................running on 30cc cannister. Man is it a sweet setup. 7800 and quieter than the guy next to us using a saito 100................
Cool!

But we need photos and details of how you connected the cannister, and where you got the parts!
Old 02-19-2011, 01:05 PM
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Thanks, Charlie and Bob! About 15" is all that I can go with the Simla's gear. The one in the MA article had barely enough clearance with a 15" two bladed prop and an OS 90FX.
Sue would like to see that cannister set-up!
Old 02-19-2011, 01:11 PM
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After running the engine for a while, black, oily, residue started coming from the rear muffler bolt. I used the supplied gasket to attach the muffler but did not put any sealant on the bolts. Is it necessary to put something on the threads to prevent leakage of this type? By the way I am using Penzoil 2 cycle for small engines mixed at the recommend 30:1.
Old 02-19-2011, 01:33 PM
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Get rid of that gasket. Use the red high-temp sealant for gasket and red locktite on the muffler bolts.
Old 02-19-2011, 01:49 PM
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Thanks Johnny-Zero that is exactly what I was thinking, just need conformation from someone with more experience with gas engines than I have.
Old 02-19-2011, 04:50 PM
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The gasket idea is great. Red lock tight though will be one PINA down the road.

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Thanks Johnny-Zero that is exactly what I was thinking, just need conformation from someone with more experience with gas engines than I have.
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Red locktite has never been a problem for me.
Old 02-19-2011, 04:55 PM
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Nordlocks work better and leave no mess. Besides, you heat "Locktite" to remove it, so to use it on an exhaust is marginal.
Old 02-19-2011, 05:12 PM
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I have been using this for years, and have never had a muffler come loose. Just a little on the threads and I am good to go.
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:56 AM
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You guys that are using the Syssa Ultra IBE, what output voltage are you using? The output on the IBE can be jumpered for 5.3V or 6V output. The Ignition module instructions say it can take 4.8V to 7V input. Common sense tells me that the 5.3 setting would be better for battery conservation, but what do I know not having any common sense according to my ex.
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Old 02-20-2011, 04:20 AM
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Use the 5.5v, there is no advantage to 6.0V and more than that can damage the ignition.
Old 02-20-2011, 04:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: clivemc

We just flew a DLE20 with 16x8 Haoye nylon prop today (not at all a great prop but what we had) , running on 30cc cannister. Man is it a sweet setup. 7800 and quieter than the guy next to us using a saito 100 - was really amazed, in fact in the air you cant even hear it idle
Sure would be nice to see some pictures of the DLE20 with the 30cc cannister
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Default RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

You're right of course. Even though the ignition instructions say it can take up to 7 volts, why get close to the maximum voltage? I guess my ex is right. ;^)
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Old 02-20-2011, 05:23 AM
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Maybe her logic is starting to rub off on you! It is not like a servo, where you get more speed and torque at 6V than 4.8V, the ignition either works or it doesn't, and the higher voltage can reduce its' reliability. At 5.5V it should last forever.
Old 02-20-2011, 07:26 AM
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Default RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

Guy's, FYI, you can use the Champion spark plug # UY6 or Y82 instead of the NGK CM 6

Old 02-20-2011, 07:58 AM
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What's not to like about the NGK. Proven to be reliable already. Champion is good stuff..but not much data on it that I know of.
Old 02-20-2011, 08:07 AM
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NGK may not be as readily available as Champion in some areas. I like NGK myself and my post was meant in no way to bad-mouth them.
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The Champion plugs work OK but they have a larger hex and don't fit the plug cap as well as the NGK, they have a shorter reach as well. An NGK CM-6 will last  at least 2 years for those that can properly adjust the carburetor, I have a few that have burned over 50 gallons of gas and still work fine. I rarely put a new plug in my own engines anymore, I use old ones others throw away.
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...................I rarely put a new plug in my own engines anymore, I use old ones others throw away.
I give DLE/3 plugs away free![&:]
Old 02-20-2011, 10:34 AM
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Why?...Are you selling NGKs now?
Old 02-20-2011, 11:12 AM
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jedijody,

Do you have any 2 3/4" spinners that will work with the DLE 20 and a 17" x 6" Xoar prop?
Old 02-20-2011, 11:15 AM
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Sorry mcandies, 3" is the smallest spinner we have right now.


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