DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
04-25-2011, 08:37 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: jcb9901
It does'nt look like it, Not on mine anyways
Here's pics of my DLE20 in escapade a work in progress
ORIGINAL: crashland 73
Im wondering if this 20 will fit inside the cowl of the new escapade. Anyone?
Im wondering if this 20 will fit inside the cowl of the new escapade. Anyone?
It does'nt look like it, Not on mine anyways
Here's pics of my DLE20 in escapade a work in progress
04-25-2011, 08:40 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: raptureboy
Hello all hope your enjoying Easter and time with your family. I am looking for some help setting up a throttle linkage using braided fishing leader like that which is used for pull/pull rudder. I've searched many threads and have not found any information on how it is done. I have the basics down but I'm not getting enough pull to open the throttle all the way. I have the cable attached to ball inks on each end and a short control arm on the servo, with a long arm on the carb. There is very little movement in the cable going from idle to full throttle. I have followed the instuctions for setting the carb and servo arms for half throttle that were in the gas for newbbie thrread. I can attach pictures if needed. I would use a rod but it just does not work well with my setup. Thanks.
Hello all hope your enjoying Easter and time with your family. I am looking for some help setting up a throttle linkage using braided fishing leader like that which is used for pull/pull rudder. I've searched many threads and have not found any information on how it is done. I have the basics down but I'm not getting enough pull to open the throttle all the way. I have the cable attached to ball inks on each end and a short control arm on the servo, with a long arm on the carb. There is very little movement in the cable going from idle to full throttle. I have followed the instuctions for setting the carb and servo arms for half throttle that were in the gas for newbbie thrread. I can attach pictures if needed. I would use a rod but it just does not work well with my setup. Thanks.
Keep it simple....if it was the better way to go, you'd see more and more of us using the braided wire method....
did you make sure the throttle stop is open allowing the carb to fully close?
04-25-2011, 03:43 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: jedijody
Pictures would be a big help.
Pictures would be a big help.
04-25-2011, 03:52 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
The main problem I see is that you took the geometry described as using a short arm for the servo and long arm on the throttle shaft to the extreme. You want an offset of about 1/4", though I would use more secure attachment on the servo end, put the ball link in the outside hole of that short arm, then put the ball link on the throttle shaft arm about 1/4" further out from the pivot point (the shaft). I would also put a flat washer between the bolt head and the ball link on the throttle arm.
04-25-2011, 04:14 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Jody, thanks I was following some instructions from a regular poster here and I was thinking the same thing, not enough leverage on the servo arm. Everthing is set up temporary because of all the trial and error of setting up, but I most certainly will secure it all properly before flying. By the way I got my prop and ignition kill switch from you pronto. Thanks for the great service and all your help here in the forums. I'll let you know how this works out soon. Now back to the project[8D]
04-25-2011, 04:22 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
I picked up a couple of velocity stacks at the toledo show ($2.00 a piece so no biggy). Would adding one to this dle 20 make a difference and would it be advisable? What other ramifications might I expect if one is added? Thanx
04-25-2011, 05:20 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Litterbug, I can't say for sure but since the dle is a rear carb I don't think it would be needed since the carb is not out in the airflow like a side carb engine, and therefore as I understand it would not be prone to having the fuel sucked out of the carb. But I'm not a gas expert and I would see if Jody or one of the other experts has any advice.
04-26-2011, 12:46 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Hi raptureboy,
Looking at your set up I would use a solid servo wire rod with a ball joint at the carb end, seems a lot of fiddling around to use fishing trace and then rely on the butterfly spring to close the throttle. The pictures seem to show a good straight run from servo to throttle arm so that would look the way to go.
The carb butterfly has a large movement , you'll need a longer arm on the servo end and or move the ball joint nearer the pivot at the carb end.
Great engine you won't be disappointed.
Rob
Looking at your set up I would use a solid servo wire rod with a ball joint at the carb end, seems a lot of fiddling around to use fishing trace and then rely on the butterfly spring to close the throttle. The pictures seem to show a good straight run from servo to throttle arm so that would look the way to go.
The carb butterfly has a large movement , you'll need a longer arm on the servo end and or move the ball joint nearer the pivot at the carb end.
Great engine you won't be disappointed.
Rob
04-26-2011, 08:30 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Raptureboy: I am new to gassers as well but your throtle linkage looks very funny.
Oh and guys, I maidened my Revolver 70/DLE 20 combo yesturday and I could not beleive how well it flew.
Wow I was impressed and about 3 other guys said they were gonna get this exact combo.
I have another noob question though.
I am running a 2 x 1600mha Lipo battery setup and to my suprise, I needed to put one if them just on the motor pod to balance it. I would have thought the DLE would have made it nose heavy?
My question is this: I just got 2 x 1100 mha LiFe packs that I intend to use: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14466
Since these batteries are lighter than the ones I used before, my plane will not balance unless I put both of them in the nose ( just next to the electronic ignition module)
Can the receiver get interference from its battery being close to the ignition module?
Whats the saying "Once you go gas, you never go back" or something like that
Thanks guys!
Oh and guys, I maidened my Revolver 70/DLE 20 combo yesturday and I could not beleive how well it flew.
Wow I was impressed and about 3 other guys said they were gonna get this exact combo.
I have another noob question though.
I am running a 2 x 1600mha Lipo battery setup and to my suprise, I needed to put one if them just on the motor pod to balance it. I would have thought the DLE would have made it nose heavy?
My question is this: I just got 2 x 1100 mha LiFe packs that I intend to use: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14466
Since these batteries are lighter than the ones I used before, my plane will not balance unless I put both of them in the nose ( just next to the electronic ignition module)
Can the receiver get interference from its battery being close to the ignition module?
Whats the saying "Once you go gas, you never go back" or something like that
Thanks guys!
04-26-2011, 09:04 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
There are many ways to set up a gas plane, no opti, opti, ignition direct to rx, batts anywhere, redundancy, some never have issues, some always do but I sure would not do it. I personally think you are adding to a possible set up issue by having your RX Batt that close to the ignition. Thats one long extension that can produce some very bad things.
I am surprised you are tail heavy I have had two of the revolvers and both have come out too nose heavy, even my DLE20. As a side note the Revolver is very picky with CG, I got it close but always had to do a flight test to get it exact.
I am surprised you are tail heavy I have had two of the revolvers and both have come out too nose heavy, even my DLE20. As a side note the Revolver is very picky with CG, I got it close but always had to do a flight test to get it exact.
04-26-2011, 12:10 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: skip1320
Thought Chavs were only in europe!
Thought Chavs were only in europe!
Ok ok Ok I'll humour you,..............hillbillies then.
As for teh DLE and nose weight, it does appear that it can lead to nose weight concerns if the hardware is not packaged properly. It's lighter than equivalent 4 strokes I've discovered.
04-26-2011, 04:47 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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Raptureboy: I am new to gassers as well but your throtle linkage looks very funny.
Oh and guys, I maidened my Revolver 70/DLE 20 combo yesturday and I could not beleive how well it flew.
Wow I was impressed and about 3 other guys said they were gonna get this exact combo.
I have another noob question though.
I am running a 2 x 1600mha Lipo battery setup and to my suprise, I needed to put one if them just on the motor pod to balance it. I would have thought the DLE would have made it nose heavy?
My question is this: I just got 2 x 1100 mha LiFe packs that I intend to use: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14466
Since these batteries are lighter than the ones I used before, my plane will not balance unless I put both of them in the nose ( just next to the electronic ignition module)
Can the receiver get interference from its battery being close to the ignition module?
Whats the saying ''Once you go gas, you never go back'' or something like that
Thanks guys!
Raptureboy: I am new to gassers as well but your throtle linkage looks very funny.
Oh and guys, I maidened my Revolver 70/DLE 20 combo yesturday and I could not beleive how well it flew.
Wow I was impressed and about 3 other guys said they were gonna get this exact combo.
I have another noob question though.
I am running a 2 x 1600mha Lipo battery setup and to my suprise, I needed to put one if them just on the motor pod to balance it. I would have thought the DLE would have made it nose heavy?
My question is this: I just got 2 x 1100 mha LiFe packs that I intend to use: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14466
Since these batteries are lighter than the ones I used before, my plane will not balance unless I put both of them in the nose ( just next to the electronic ignition module)
Can the receiver get interference from its battery being close to the ignition module?
Whats the saying ''Once you go gas, you never go back'' or something like that
Thanks guys!
Of course now that I posted this, I probably will have issues. I have about 30 flights so far, and a couple experienced guys at my field said that I need to keep an eye on the extra heat around the batteries. So I built a baffle/plate for them to sit on. Seems to do the job, everything seems to be getting warm, but not hot.
04-27-2011, 07:22 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: TimBle
so thats what a velocity stack is...
so thats what a velocity stack is...
04-29-2011, 09:07 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Seagull Edge 540 60 with DLE20 - My Setup and pics...
DLE 20 with stock CDI from RcEXL
Prop 17x6 APC
RcEXL Optokill
LiFe 2300 with double output - straight to Rx and with 2x!N4001 in series for the CDI ( i have used this on 50 flights with my Extra 260)
Miracle Twin switch with fuel Dot from SDhobby
HD Power MG946R servos x 5 and a futaba 3152 for throttle
FrSky 8 ch. Rx with module on a Futaba 10C
Bolt on Horns with Ball links on all surfaces NOT the stock plastic ones.
300 ml (10 Oz) clear fuel tank with 2 lines and Walbro felt clunk.
Check out the RPM - 8920 RPM on a 17*6 APC sports prop.
DLE 20 with stock CDI from RcEXL
Prop 17x6 APC
RcEXL Optokill
LiFe 2300 with double output - straight to Rx and with 2x!N4001 in series for the CDI ( i have used this on 50 flights with my Extra 260)
Miracle Twin switch with fuel Dot from SDhobby
HD Power MG946R servos x 5 and a futaba 3152 for throttle
FrSky 8 ch. Rx with module on a Futaba 10C
Bolt on Horns with Ball links on all surfaces NOT the stock plastic ones.
300 ml (10 Oz) clear fuel tank with 2 lines and Walbro felt clunk.
Check out the RPM - 8920 RPM on a 17*6 APC sports prop.
04-29-2011, 09:14 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Seagull Edge 540 60 with DLE20 - My Setup and pics...
DLE 20 with stock CDI from RcEXL
Prop 17x6 APC
RcEXL Optokill
LiFe 2300 with double output - straight to Rx and with 2x!N4001 in series for the CDI ( i have used this on 50 flights with my Extra 260)
Miracle Twin switch with fuel Dot from SDhobby
HD Power MG946R servos x 5 and a futaba 3152 for throttle
FrSky 8 ch. Rx with module on a Futaba 10C
Bolt on Horns with Ball links on all surfaces NOT the stock plastic ones.
300 ml (10 Oz) clear fuel tank with 2 lines and Walbro felt clunk.
Check out the RPM - 8920 RPM on a 17*6 APC sports prop.
DLE 20 with stock CDI from RcEXL
Prop 17x6 APC
RcEXL Optokill
LiFe 2300 with double output - straight to Rx and with 2x!N4001 in series for the CDI ( i have used this on 50 flights with my Extra 260)
Miracle Twin switch with fuel Dot from SDhobby
HD Power MG946R servos x 5 and a futaba 3152 for throttle
FrSky 8 ch. Rx with module on a Futaba 10C
Bolt on Horns with Ball links on all surfaces NOT the stock plastic ones.
300 ml (10 Oz) clear fuel tank with 2 lines and Walbro felt clunk.
Check out the RPM - 8920 RPM on a 17*6 APC sports prop.