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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)


    ORIGINAL: acdii

    Wish the DLE20 fit my T-34, well it could, but weighs almost as much as the plane itself.** I still haven't decided what engine to put on the T-34 to covert it from electric. I know I want 4 stroke.


    BTW where can I get the plug for the DLE20? I didn't see it listed on Tower where I got it.* Napa parts guy just gave me a weird look.

    This is where I got mine: http://www.quickieparts.com/spark-pl...w-engines.html
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)


    ORIGINAL: oldtyme


    ORIGINAL: acdii

    Wish the DLE20 fit my T-34, well it could, but weighs almost as much as the plane itself. I still haven't decided what engine to put on the T-34 to covert it from electric. I know I want 4 stroke.


    BTW where can I get the plug for the DLE20? I didn't see it listed on Tower where I got it. Napa parts guy just gave me a weird look.

    This is where I got mine: http://www.quickieparts.com/spark-pl...w-engines.html
    Thanks, I see they have the fuel line too which is much cheaper than the packaged stuff. Bookmarked it and will order some later, figure get me 10 feet of tubing and I should be good for my fueling can and whatever else Ineed.

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    I get my plugs from the locial Auto (Napa) store. If yours don't have them see if they will order it for you.

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    Hate to say it, but the links for the ignition draw and consumption are dead. I am looking for the amp draw so I can get a BEC  to use with the DLE20 ignition and my 7 servo Futaba RX running off a 3300 MAH 3S Lipo.  I don't want to get one that is too low an amperage.
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)


    ORIGINAL: acdii

    Hate to say it, but the links for the ignition draw and consumption are dead.........
    Hmm, just checked and both popped right up.
    Try right-click and open in new tab maybe?
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    Just for the record . . .

    Original: a1pcfixer
    From the Rcexl chart Jody just posted;

    Current
    consumption

    {min @ 4.0v}
    35mA(0-rpm)
    300mA(8000 rpm)

    {typical @ 4.8v}
    45mA(0-rpm)
    430mA(8000 rpm)

    {max @ 6.0v}
    60mA(0-rpm)
    580mA(8000 rpm)
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    Well now it directs me to one of the thread pages, and the attachment gives me the error now,

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    Thanks, just what I was looking for.
    ORIGINAL: w8yeJust for the record . . .
    Original: a1pcfixerFrom the Rcexl chart Jody just posted;Currentconsumption{min @ 4.0v}35mA(0-rpm)300mA(8000 rpm){typical @ 4.8v}45mA(0-rpm)430mA(8000 rpm){max @ 6.0v}60mA(0-rpm)580mA(8000 rpm)


    Followed the rest of that page that the link pointed to now and found what I needed to know. The input voltage doesnt matter for the output, and in fact the higher the input the more draw(seems strange, quite the opposite in fact), so I will use a regular 4.8v pack, maybe 1000mah in size, should get me 4 flights before needing a recharge, and get a LiFe for the RX instead of using a BEC with one of my 11.4v LiPo's for both. Good information in this thread when you can find it.
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    There's several moderators been complaining about this type response to the higher ups.
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    I've been having posting issues for the past 2 weeks, sometimes they go right through, other times, I get errors and have to refresh and start over.
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    I've found that if I go into the "Cookies" and then into the RCUniverse cookies and then delete just the individual cookies that have the word "SESSION" in them, then the RCU page will load instantly.
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    Try these, best price so far for me

    http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/ho...052-56471.html
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    So I've ran about 1.5gal through my engine and it's starting to 4stroke @ ~1/3 throttle.  I know as it breaks in it will need retuning I'm just wondering if it's normal to need to be leaned out as it breaks in?

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)


    ORIGINAL: nefariousrc

    So I've ran about 1.5gal through my engine and it's starting to 4stroke @ ~1/3 throttle. *I know as it breaks in it will need retuning I'm just wondering if it's normal to need to be leaned out as it breaks in?
    Yes, it's normal for the carb to need adjusting. I'm not sure I would lay the blame completely on break in though. A 30 degree air temp swing could cause it as well as a number of other factors? Go for it!


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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)


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    ORIGINAL: nefariousrc

    So I've ran about 1.5gal through my engine and it's starting to 4stroke @ ~1/3 throttle. I know as it breaks in it will need retuning I'm just wondering if it's normal to need to be leaned out as it breaks in?
    Yes, it's normal for the carb to need adjusting. I'm not sure I would lay the blame completely on break in though. A 30 degree air temp swing could cause it as well as a number of other factors? Go for it!

    Thanks. I knew adjustments would be needed just wanted to make sure that leaning it out was normal as it breaks in. In my mind I thought it would need to be richened as the rings seated resulting in less blow by.
    As for temp, I'm in San Diego... We don't get 30* temp swings Kidding aside, there was maybe a 10* temp difference between when I first tuned it and this weekend.

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    Quick question.....
    Manual states a gas mix of 30:1
    I have several Zenoah that I run with 32:1
    Can I use the same mix 32:1 to my DLE 20 or I need to have a separate can with 30:1? Would it hurt it too bad to have a little bit extra oil?
    Thanks for the help
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    The DLE 20 should be fine at 32:1

    32 parts gasoline and 1 part oil. That is less oil than 30 parts gasoline and one part oil.
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    Hello y'all,

    Since I'm one of the own of DLE20 and I would be experiencing my engine may be the end of January 2012, or February. There is another thread of Chinese gas engines, and it looks like we are under an influx of Chinese engines, which is good in a way that price may get plummeted but so far, it's seems like a shot in the dark.

    http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10486267

    DLE20's been spoken a lot about and spoken high. I would like to ask a simple question of those who had been, or had used the DLE 20 engines in the past. The question is

    What is a life span of DLE20 or bigger size gasser, how long do they last if not abused, and what are the precautions to be taken in order to keep it running good.

    I know nothing can be predicted precisely when it comes to any electronics or mechanical stuff, but experiences make us learn the ropes.

    Thanks y'all, happy flying and happy holidays

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    I have over 250 flights on the DLE-20/Velox and had about 50 on the other DLE-20 I had before I sold it.  It is still running great, no issues.

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    Wow 250 flights, that's really amazing and very encouraging. What are the general precautions to you take to keep it running well?
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)


    ORIGINAL: armody

    Wow 250 flights, that's really amazing and very encouraging. What are the general precautions to you take to keep it running well?

    Here is what I'm doing to keep my DLE-20 happy (which means I'm happy since I own two)
    Correct fuel to Oil ratio with a high quality synthetic oil
    Correct mixture: (Not too lean - Not too rich:either will cause problems)
    Don't over-rev nor over-prop
    (Don't crash)

    Plenty of information on each of these on this thread.

    Good engine.


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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    I run VP fuels 100% gas with Stihl HP Ultra synthetic, and a 17-6 or 17-8 Vess prop so it is not reving too high.  Also, I have plenty of cooling air, and even in a hover never gets too hot.

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    Paul, hoffman,

    Great information. I bought me a wooden prop 16X6, and I might get 17X6 as well, don't want much speed but thrust. One thing I would like to clear it up, for the fuel, I bought Klotz 32:1 synthetic oil

    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXS626&P=ML

    and I have to buy the Hi Octane Supreme gasoline, that's it or something else?

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)


    ORIGINAL: ghoffman

    I run VP fuels 100% gas with Stihl HP Ultra synthetic, and a 17-6 or 17-8 Vess prop so it is not reving too high. *Also, I have plenty of cooling air, and even in a hover never gets too hot.
    How much would 2 gallons of VP fuel cost, that is what I mix up at one time. I have heard good things about it but is it cost effective if you fly a lot of gas.
    Thanks
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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    I buy it in a 5 gallon bucket for about $70, and the local shop gives me the Stihl HP Ultra with it. With the DLE-20 that is alot of flying time, but I also use it in a DA-60 and a DA-120 as well. The DA-120 uses about 20-25 oz per 10 minute flight, but the DLE-20 uses the 16 oz tank in maybe 30 minutes.

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    RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)

    I'm using no-ethanol Rec fuel now but I started with 87 Octane pump gas and it worked just fine. Other than the possibility of some fuel line being more reactive to the ethanol than others, I believe that the uber-experts support the use of plain, out of the pump non-premium gas.

    Everything else being equal, I don't believe that the gasoline will have any substantial effect on the longevity the engine.

    Some have found a brand or type of fuel that works better for them. I use ethanol-free because I can get it and I'm not sold on the whole ethanol thing in the first place and it works fine for me.


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