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Nice flying and nice demo of the DLE 20....but I really hate all 3D. There is nothing scale about that style of flying. Just my personal opinion. It does show the power of this engine though. That being said....I hope some flyers post vids of some scale birds with this engine flying any but a helicopter.
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Nice flying and nice demo of the DLE 20....but I really hate all 3D. There is nothing scale about that style of flying. Just my personal opinion. It does show the power of this engine though. That being said....I hope some flyers post vids of some scale birds with this engine flying any but a helicopter.
Nice flying and nice demo of the DLE 20....but I really hate all 3D. There is nothing scale about that style of flying. Just my personal opinion. It does show the power of this engine though. That being said....I hope some flyers post vids of some scale birds with this engine flying any but a helicopter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M614k90r9c
I understand that some don't like or get 3D. For me it's that I got bored flying around in circles...scale flying just isn't that challenging now. 3D pushes your skills to the limits and really makes you a better pilot....does have a steep learning curve though[:'(] I really do like these planes as you can get as wild as you want but then slow down and fly at dead slow speeds inches off the deck. Sometimes it's good to take a "snowbird" flight or two
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Just watched a Utube video of a DLE 20 in a large Revolver and it was a perfect fit. The video was a break-in test and I would love to see the flight video. This engine is going to be a game changer!
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Just watched a Utube video of a DLE 20 in a large Revolver and it was a perfect fit. The video was a break-in test and I would love to see the flight video. This engine is going to be a game changer!
Just watched a Utube video of a DLE 20 in a large Revolver and it was a perfect fit. The video was a break-in test and I would love to see the flight video. This engine is going to be a game changer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BllA1VnwsSg
Enjoy :-)
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I am currently assembling the GP 1/4 Spacewalker. The DLE20 seems to be a great engine for this plane. Recommendations were the Zenoah G20EI sometime ago for gas on RCU. How do you think the DLE20 will fit in the cowl? Plane has a 79" wingspan and GP states weight should be 8-8.5 lbs. As you know the Spacewalker also has a very low wing loading. Also will the rear carb be an issue for mounting? I think power might be a bit much but that's ok. Have a DLE55 in an older Aeroworks Proflie that weighs 14 lbs. and it flies great. ARF calls for a OS .90 4 stroke. Also cooling the engine was another question. Thanks for any help.
I am currently assembling the GP 1/4 Spacewalker. The DLE20 seems to be a great engine for this plane. Recommendations were the Zenoah G20EI sometime ago for gas on RCU. How do you think the DLE20 will fit in the cowl? Plane has a 79" wingspan and GP states weight should be 8-8.5 lbs. As you know the Spacewalker also has a very low wing loading. Also will the rear carb be an issue for mounting? I think power might be a bit much but that's ok. Have a DLE55 in an older Aeroworks Proflie that weighs 14 lbs. and it flies great. ARF calls for a OS .90 4 stroke. Also cooling the engine was another question. Thanks for any help.
Often the rear carb requires you to cut a hole in the firewall.
Some people run the choke linkage inside the cowl to the air inlet
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ORIGINAL: mitchsnap
I am currently assembling the GP 1/4 Spacewalker. The DLE20 seems to be a great engine for this plane. Recommendations were the Zenoah G20EI sometime ago for gas on RCU. How do you think the DLE20 will fit in the cowl? Plane has a 79'' wingspan and GP states weight should be 8-8.5 lbs. As you know the Spacewalker also has a very low wing loading. Also will the rear carb be an issue for mounting? I think power might be a bit much but that's ok. Have a DLE55 in an older Aeroworks Proflie that weighs 14 lbs. and it flies great. ARF calls for a OS .90 4 stroke. Also cooling the engine was another question. Thanks for any help.
I am currently assembling the GP 1/4 Spacewalker. The DLE20 seems to be a great engine for this plane. Recommendations were the Zenoah G20EI sometime ago for gas on RCU. How do you think the DLE20 will fit in the cowl? Plane has a 79'' wingspan and GP states weight should be 8-8.5 lbs. As you know the Spacewalker also has a very low wing loading. Also will the rear carb be an issue for mounting? I think power might be a bit much but that's ok. Have a DLE55 in an older Aeroworks Proflie that weighs 14 lbs. and it flies great. ARF calls for a OS .90 4 stroke. Also cooling the engine was another question. Thanks for any help.
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I flew guinnb's EE60 with the 20cc in there and it has excellent power.
BTW, if you are into 3D at all, the EE60 is a great platform for this engine.
BTW, if you are into 3D at all, the EE60 is a great platform for this engine.
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
We installed the engine on a brand new BH models AT-6 Texan (82" wing span) and it runs great! We maidened it on Saturday afternoon, and I can say even with having to add 27 oz of lead to the nose, that I really think it is a great match for that size plane.
The only problem I have with the engine is the noise level, when me and my son tested it, the average DB level was 100-101 and the highest was 104. Our DL-30s hover right around the 95 db mark. We run only zoar props (and 18x6 on the 30s and tried the 16x8 on the 20). Our main flying field has a DB limit of 95 so we had to maiden the AT-6 at our secondary field (about twice as far away as our main field).
Starting and running is flawless though, I am amazed at the power the little monster puts out!
It would've been a perfect evening, but we lost a wheel on the second landing and the texan nosed over, but she will be fixed up by the end of the week.
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The only problem I have with the engine is the noise level, when me and my son tested it, the average DB level was 100-101 and the highest was 104. Our DL-30s hover right around the 95 db mark. We run only zoar props (and 18x6 on the 30s and tried the 16x8 on the 20). Our main flying field has a DB limit of 95 so we had to maiden the AT-6 at our secondary field (about twice as far away as our main field).
Starting and running is flawless though, I am amazed at the power the little monster puts out!
It would've been a perfect evening, but we lost a wheel on the second landing and the texan nosed over, but she will be fixed up by the end of the week.
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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Buying a 90-1.20 size nitro engine is slowly becoming a thing of the pass.
Buying a 90-1.20 size nitro engine is slowly becoming a thing of the pass.
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ORIGINAL: Woody218-RCU
I predict the DLE 20 will speed that up considerably!
ORIGINAL: airborne2.4
Buying a 90-1.20 size nitro engine is slowly becoming a thing of the pass.
Buying a 90-1.20 size nitro engine is slowly becoming a thing of the pass.
Say goodbye to the 90-1.20 size nitro engine putting a hole in your pocket too.
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ORIGINAL: Woody218-RCU
I predict the DLE 20 will speed that up considerably!
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Buying a 90-1.20 size nitro engine is slowly becoming a thing of the pass.
Buying a 90-1.20 size nitro engine is slowly becoming a thing of the pass.
Then those owning large glow engines will end up buying the new Enya glow plug made for gasoline and will run their engines that way - on gas/oil mix. I hate glow fuel. It is messy, leaving oil all over everything and it is too danged expensive. I use gasoline in my utility engines, my automobiles and my motorcycle. I have no aversion to gasoline as a fuel other than the smell. My utility engines are in my attached garage and I never smell them. That is also where I keep my model airplanes, so I see no problem with using gasoline as a model airplane fuel. I'm not eliminating glow fuel entirely, but I hope to limit its use to the same amount as I'm using model Diesel fuel - just occasionally.
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Gotta wonder how the "glow companies" are liking the onset of the small gassers! I think it's great. Imagine what we will see in a couple years. I think (RCGF-don't quote me) is allready planning a 10cc gas engine as I just saw an add in a new magazine. Won't be long and just 'bout everyone will be flying at least one gas plane.
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I was thinking this morning how model aircraft engines have come full circle. The first model aircraft engines were spark ignition gassers, then glow engines took over. Now, gas engines are replacing glow again.
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If the glow folks would improve their fuel delivery and carburetion systems, they might hang on to market share a while longer. But the built-in fuel pump and pressure regulator in gasoline fueled engines (converted utility engines) solve quite a few problems for modelers. Not even counting the lower fuel costs.
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I thought the guys at OS would have been the first to hit market with a 15cc and 20cc, but they allowed RCGF, JBA and DLE! to beat em to the deal? Who knows, maybe they'll have a 10cc available by next summer. Their 55cc looks sweet but man that thing sure is pricey.
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I thought the guys at OS would have been the first to hit market with a 15cc and 20cc, but they allowed RCGF and JBA to beat em to the deal? Who knows, maybe they'll have a 10cc available by next summer. Their 55cc looks sweet but man that thing sure is pricey.
I thought the guys at OS would have been the first to hit market with a 15cc and 20cc, but they allowed RCGF and JBA to beat em to the deal? Who knows, maybe they'll have a 10cc available by next summer. Their 55cc looks sweet but man that thing sure is pricey.
The folks that import OS and now Thunder Tiger into the USA are going to have to remove their heads from their stinky, dark tunnels and see the revolution that is taking place in R/C airplane modeldom, or be left holding a very expensive bag with no buyers or customers in sight.
Just think, no more high price "fuel proof" items to buy. Just go to Ace Hardware or Wal-Mart and pick up your paint of choice. I love it!
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Speaking of flight times....
I forgot to post about using a single A123 battery for receiver and ignition. On the EE60 DLE 20cc powered plane I used a 1100mah A123 with dual leads from WrongwayRC. I then put a diode extension from the ignition switch to the ignition to step the voltage down to safe levels for the ignition. This worked perfectly with no interference and no ignition problems. Doing hard 10 min 3D flights you can safely get 4 flights in before recharging (less than 10 mins recharging time with the A123 packs). This left the pack around 55% full according to my Cellpro charger. Btw, the EE60 runs two 5625mg digitals in the tail, a 5645mg digital servo for throttle (just what I had at the time) and two Futaba 3010's on the ailerons.
On the larger 71" EE (Colts proto plane) with a Syssa 30cc I ran a 2300 mah A123. I flew this plane for at least 7 flights at a time and had greater than 60% of the pack left. It has 4 5645mg digital servos and one hs-85 throttle servo. The pack was also a A123 with dual leads (and the diode extension as before) from WrongwayRC.
So, using one pack is definitely possible if you need to watch the weight as is often the case in 3D planes. If not, I'd use a separate pack.
I forgot to post about using a single A123 battery for receiver and ignition. On the EE60 DLE 20cc powered plane I used a 1100mah A123 with dual leads from WrongwayRC. I then put a diode extension from the ignition switch to the ignition to step the voltage down to safe levels for the ignition. This worked perfectly with no interference and no ignition problems. Doing hard 10 min 3D flights you can safely get 4 flights in before recharging (less than 10 mins recharging time with the A123 packs). This left the pack around 55% full according to my Cellpro charger. Btw, the EE60 runs two 5625mg digitals in the tail, a 5645mg digital servo for throttle (just what I had at the time) and two Futaba 3010's on the ailerons.
On the larger 71" EE (Colts proto plane) with a Syssa 30cc I ran a 2300 mah A123. I flew this plane for at least 7 flights at a time and had greater than 60% of the pack left. It has 4 5645mg digital servos and one hs-85 throttle servo. The pack was also a A123 with dual leads (and the diode extension as before) from WrongwayRC.
So, using one pack is definitely possible if you need to watch the weight as is often the case in 3D planes. If not, I'd use a separate pack.