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    Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Found this on Enya's web site http://enya-engine.com/180XGS_E.html
    Sounds Interesting


    180X-GS
    Combind Power by Glow and Gasoline 180X-GS coming soon!


    The gasoline engine by glow plug ignition that overturns the common sense of a current model engine.


    Zero sparking noise
    High power and high combustion efficiency
    Preeminent durability by ABC with ringed sytem


    Special glow plug for gasoline (attached)
    Special chemosyntheses oil (attached)
    Pitts style special muffler (optional)
    Displacement 29.05 cc
    Bore 34.0 mm
    Stroke 32.0 mm
    Revo. range 1,800~11,000 rpm



    180X-GS is a joint development by NSi Moka and Enya metal products.

    GLOW GASOLINE COMBINED POWER

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Ok, not enough info. Questions:

    1. What is the Special chemosyntheses oil, and what does it cost and where do you get it?
    2. Does the glow plug need energizing all the run time of the engine or just to start?
    3. What is the cost of the engine?
    4. Is this different than the engines some are converting to run on glow-gas fuel with a mix of Premium gasoline and 10% glow fuel and starting on glow but running with no power to the glow plug?
    5. Doesn't Enya also have a 4 stroke Diesel coming out?

    Likely these answers are not known until someone buys one and checks it out, but, I gotta ask anyway.

    Thanks.

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Interesting.

    We crossed the Atlantic some years ago using an Enya 1.20 glow converted to gasoline
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    I know you did. Nice job on the conversion too!
    Let me guess:
    low power, large prop, small carb.
    Icing problems
    low fuel flow sensitivity problems
    lots of work to get the fuel economy on par
    Fuel devellopment
    plane efficiency calculations; lots of pioneer work
    etc ad infinitum.

    Wish I had been there.
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Pretty much covers it. Looks like Enya is now coming "full circle"

    FYI, a lot of the same issues carried over to gas engines when it came time to get serious. Especially induction icing. Nobody had a clue our little gassers were susceptible to that, and the proof was very elusive. Airframe icing isn't much of a difficulty. The plane avoids the conditions or heads for the dirt, er, water....

    Have to give some credit to Elson for follow on development. A little later he provided some pretty useful information to one of the team members where gas engine set up was concerned.
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Say TOM, is there a website or other place I can read about your Atlantic crossing efforts?

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Correct.

    The vehicle has long since been sold off to another company and is beyond recognition now. We have another vehicle that has been extremely successful with another on the way. The Aerosonde got our feet wet and showed us the path we were to travel. The challenges never cease but make the trip that much sweeter as they are overcome.
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Never mind the FAI and stuff... There is a great deal of satisfaction in being the FIRST to do something
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Thanks for the links W8ye. I'll check them out.

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    TKG,

    As I recall, one of your products was part of that effort. Early proof of the level of quality
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    I see Insitu won the STUAS bid.
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Never lie, and never minimize or gloss. Tell it like it is and let the pieces fall where they may. The truth always wins.

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    This new Enya may be OK. I seen & heardaengine ina Big warbird that ran perfect. I asked the guy what engine he was running....it was a Big Supertiger 3000 series and he said it never ran good untill he used L85 pump gas & a Hot 4 cycleO.S. Max"F" glow plug. Maybe that Enya is High compression and will run good too.........
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug


    ORIGINAL: spaceworm

    Ok, not enough info. Questions:

    1. What is the Special chemosyntheses oil, and what does it cost and where do you get it?
    2. Does the glow plug need energizing all the run time of the engine or just to start?
    3. What is the cost of the engine?
    4. Is this different than the engines some are converting to run on glow-gas fuel with a mix of Premium gasoline and 10% glow fuel and starting on glow but running with no power to the glow plug?
    5. Doesn't Enya also have a 4 stroke Diesel coming out?

    Likely these answers are not known until someone buys one and checks it out, but, I gotta ask anyway.

    Thanks.
    Regards,

    Richard

    Google that chemosyntheses oil and find out. Read on about offshore drilling in the Gulf!
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    I think in Enya's case it is just a fancy name for synthetic oil

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemosynthesis

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Probably just a literal translation from Japanese.
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug



    The New Enya gas 1.80 looks to be a joint venture. Not Sure. I do know the Enya 1.20R was a powerfull engine made in Japan. A good quality engine Some more data

    http://www.nsi.t-pod.jp/

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    From what I read, the oil is a synthetic blend that has more of a catalytic action with the glow plug. So that should be no big deal. Just wish they would get that new Enya Gas engine on the market soon! Capt,n
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Get an onboard glow driver and burn E85. Its government subsidized glow fuel.

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Well E85 may not be easy to get for some, but it works real good in the Bigger Supertiger engines in combination with a OS Max 4 cycle glow plug. This is all more fun with-out the word "govermnent" attached. Capt,n
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug


    ORIGINAL: captinjohn

    Well E85 may not be easy to get for some, but it works real good in the Bigger Supertiger engines in combination with a OS Max 4 cycle glow plug.* This is all more fun with-out the word ''govermnent'' attached.** Capt,n
    Make that "taxpayer" subsidized glow fuel. It almost makes up for the toll road fees that I will soon be paying to get to the field. No more free roads in Texas.

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    First thing...is there anyone who has got one of the new Gas Enya engines yet? Please share with us. Second thing. Kweasel could you redo your political govermrnt post a little. Please do not get offened....just sick of govement talk...and makes fun reading ...not so fun. Thanks Capt,n
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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    It's supposed to be out tomorrow, just got an email from Enya Direct about it today. I was really disapointed to see that the price is set at JPY 89,800 which loosely translates to about US $1100.00. I was thinking about it for one of my planes and It's cool, but definitely not Eleven Hundred bucks cool. Just think about a Fuel Injected / Supercharged / all signing and dancin' YS DZ170 at full retail for $690.00

    Mr. Ken better revise his pricing strategy if he's expecting to sell this thing..

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    RE: Enya Gasoline Engine with Glow Plug

    Or low budget buyers will need to revise their financial arrangements and get better jobs. People seem to thoink the upper end engines need low prices to sell.

    Wrong way of thinking. The upper end engines have plenty of buyers and don't need the low budget buyers. There's far more sales generated at the upper end than at the low end with general hobbiests. Same applies to radio gear.
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