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emengines 04-29-2012 04:32 AM

EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
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Hello guys, I'm glad to show EME newengines today.

-EME 35 as follows-


emengines 04-29-2012 04:40 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
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<div id="post_message_1724626">EME 60
<font face="Calibri"><font size="3">This 60engine runs 6450 RPM@ Xoar 23*10 and gets 16.25kgf (35.75 lbs) pull!</font></font>
<font face="Calibri"><font size="3">(It is hard to compare worldwide because Gas quality in China is not as good as USA &amp; Canada. </font></font><font face="Calibri"><font size="3">However, the EME 60 runs 100 RPM more than a compared DA 60 with the same fuel and Prop.)</font></font>

Test video of EME 60is coming soon.

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emengines 04-29-2012 04:54 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
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<div id="post_message_1724629">EME 120 twin and EME 120 twin DS(Differ Spark Version)-

Stock compact muffler included. Smoke Ready.
For EME 120 twin DS, smart differ spark tech adopted. 5%~10% more power increasement.




EME 35 &amp; 60 will come in June. EME 120 will come in hot summer!

Furthermore, CALL FOR DEALERS IN USA, CANADA &amp; EUROPE!

Thanks for attention.For more information, welcome to consult us viamail,emengines@hotmail.com



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airraptor 04-29-2012 08:36 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Are those copy's of the DA engines?

BadAzzMaxx 04-29-2012 08:41 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
If it has a 60cc cylinder and a walbro carb it has to be a copy of a DA or maybe it is a copy of a JC 60 or 120
http://www.jcengine.com/jc60evo.asp
http://www.jcengine.com/JC120evo.asp

But if it is a two stroke gas engine with electronic ignition it has to be a copy of somebodies engine.

Milton

SkyPilot101 04-29-2012 09:40 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Look's like they have simular design features as DA engines, probably so when when one looks at them they subconsiously equate them to the DA engine line, thus promoting sales of one particular knock off brand vs anouther.

closetguy 04-29-2012 12:59 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
100 more rpm's than the da60,lets see a video of that,there pretty like a da.

Mikola 04-29-2012 02:08 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
do you guys remember the thread of the EME.55 CRAP engine ? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10714405
he just opened this thread for advertising because along last months he was in the cave without supporting people here..
please do not buy unknown CRAP engines.

from DLE:

<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: larger;">"As you know, lots of manufactures in ZheJiang is based on copying, they never do research and know nothing about engines. They copy it as long as it make profit. Quality is less considered during the manufacturing"</span></span>

http://images.rcuniverse.com/forum/u...69/Lg17438.jpg

SkyPilot101 04-29-2012 03:23 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
OUCH!!! Too Bad, the obvious DA origines were rather attractive. It would have been cool to put DA stickers on my cowl, who would have known ;)

emengines 04-29-2012 05:40 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
<span style="font-size: larger"><span lang="EN-US" times="" new="" style="font-family: "><span id="1335750131070E" style="display: none"></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" times="" new="" style="font-family: "><font size="3">

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</p><div><span style="font-size: larger">Thanks for posters above for your attention.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger">DA is a leading brand to study now and to exceed later. But never clone.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger">Must a single gasser 60cc be a clone of DA? Must an engine with a walbro carb be a clone of DA? None sense, I am afraid.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger">We design new engine line completely. Cylinders, crankshafts, pistons and fuselage are totally homemade by EME. Copy to none.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger">A video of EME 60 production will come soon. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger">
.................................................a pologize for very few EME 55.......................................

</span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger">Finally I apologize for crankshaft issues in very few EME 55 engines in 2011. The issue crankshafts were provided by the factory who provides DXX and us with same quality standard.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger">Nowadays we have 4 models, EME 55(and EME 55II), EME 35, EME 60, EME 120 twin(and DS version). </span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger"></span></div><div style="border-bottom: windowtext 1pt solid; border-left: medium none; padding-bottom: 1pt; padding-left: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; padding-top: 0cm"><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; padding-top: 0cm"><span style="font-size: larger">For EME 55(and EME 55II), we still use crankshafts by that factory with improved quality. And 100% of them are detected with X-ray and ultrasonic machineby EME import quality control groupto detect possible failures (as low as about 0.5%). </span></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; padding-top: 0cm"><span style="font-size: larger"></span></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; padding-top: 0cm"><span style="font-size: larger">For new EME 35, EME 60, EME 120 twin(and DS version), all parts, except carburetors (walbro), screws and ball bearings(NSK), are made by EME with strict quality control. Of course, 100% X-ray and ultrasonic detection.</span></div></div><div><span style="font-size: larger"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger">Not all Chinese engines are junks.

We believe EME will beone ofleading Chinese engines soon.

Time says all.</span></div>

BadAzzMaxx 04-29-2012 07:31 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Then are you going to back up the early engines sold that failed.

Or are you going to just push those customers to the side and try to get new ones. ????


Milton

SkyPilot101 04-29-2012 07:48 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
We design new engine line completely. Cylinders, crankshafts, pistons and fuselage are totally homemade by EME. Copy to none.

Fuselage? What part of an engine is that? 100% ultrasonic & X-ray examination........I'm not even going to comment on that one!

aussiesteve 04-29-2012 08:30 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Quote:

Then are you going to back up the early engines sold that failed.

Or are you going to just push those customers to the side and try to get new ones. ????


LOL
My guess to that would be that they will do what the rest of their countrymen do.

They will ignore the past and just move forward and sell the next latest thing to the next group of "buyers".

I wonder if the cylinder molding mandrels and the crank dies are the same common ones that appear to be popping up in a few other brands recently. If so, it will pretty quickly open up the stakes. ;)


aussiesteve 04-29-2012 08:34 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
I wonder how long before someone takes the brand on and floods the forums with how good they are and things like "We sell these".

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. I won't be using any of my money to find out.

[link]http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12856318/rc-internet-sales[/link]

emengines 04-29-2012 09:20 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 

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ORIGINAL: BadAzzMaxx

Then are you going to back up the early engines sold that failed.

Or are you going to just push those customers to the side and try to get new ones. ????


Milton

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ORIGINAL: aussiesteve



LOL
My guess to that would be that they will do what the rest of their countrymen do.

They will ignore the past and just move forward and sell the next latest thing to the next group of "buyers".

I wonder if the cylinder molding mandrels and the crank dies are the same common ones that appear to be popping up in a few other brands recently. If so, it will pretty quickly open up the stakes. ;)


Thanks for your questions, aussiesteve &amp; BadAzzMaxx.

Crankshift issue took place in a few days of last year. About 300pcs EME 55 gassers were manufactured. The failure rate was about 10% with those issue crankshafts, or about 30pcs EME55 gassers had the risk tofail in early stage.

We had called back almost all of 300pcs EME 55 gassers. And we did compensations via SDS, dealers in that time.

Of course, the issue was, is and will be a lesson for us all the time.

From that time,we have completed and improved EME QC. By the way, QC is real quality control, but not "quick crash".

BR


aussiesteve 04-29-2012 09:41 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Well put emengines.

I have a couple of questions for you.

Do you have any distributors outside of China? If you do, who are they?

How is warranty handled right now?
Even the very best engine companies have some warranty issues from time to time and I am sure your company will too.

what does the "BR" in your singatuer line stand for? (what is your name?)

When will you have some good video of the engines running? People will want to see that.

I won't be selling or buying any of your engines but I will make you this offer. Send me any of the enignes and I will inspect it and run it. I will write a totally honest review on it. How it is built, how it is assembled and how it runs. Once I have finished, you can take ownership of the engine back if you like or you can get me to send it to another person iin my country (Australia).

emengines 04-29-2012 10:28 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 

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ORIGINAL: aussiesteve

Well put emengines.

I have a couple of questions for you.

Do you have any distributors outside of China? If you do, who are they?

How is warranty handled right now?
Even the very best engine companies have some warranty issues from time to time and I am sure your company will too.

what does the "BR" in your singatuer line stand for? (what is your name?)

When will you have some good video of the engines running? People will want to see that.

I won't be selling or buying any of your engines but I will make you this offer. Send me any of the enignes and I will inspect it and run it. I will write a totally honest review on it. How it is built, how it is assembled and how it runs. Once I have finished, you can take ownership of the engine back if you like or you can get me to send it to another person iin my country (Australia).
Hello <font color="#00265e" size="2">aussiesteve</font> ,

Thanks for your questions.

Do you have any distributors outside of China? If you do, who are they?
-&gt;No official distributors yet. Now Im calling for dealers.

How is warranty handled right now?
-&gt;Free 18 months covering material and assemble failure for End User.(Improper use, crash etc isnot free )
Detailed rules betweensome people, who have mailed to us for potentialcooperation of dealer, and EME are checked and negotiated now to make to service better.

By the way, 3~5% failure ratewith gassers for flight in yearswill benormal, evenwith the best gassers. So I agree with you that "Even the very best engine companies have some warranty issues ".

what does the "BR" in your singatuer line stand for? (what is your name?)

&gt;BR= Best Regards, any thing wrong? By the way, You can callme Jeame.


When will you have some good video of the engines running? Send me any of the enignes and I will inspect it and run it. I will write a totally honest review on it.

&gt;Video of manufacture and run will come soon. I am appreciating your interesting of testing EME engine. It will be considered.

BR

Jeame

aussiesteve 04-29-2012 10:38 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Hi Jeame
Thanks for the answers.

There is no problem at all with "BR", I was just curious - I should have already known that answer was for "Best Regards" :(

I wish you the best of luck with your product and hope you get some good people to act as your distributors for you.

Steve

3136 04-29-2012 10:58 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 

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ORIGINAL: aussiesteve

I wonder how long before someone takes the brand on and floods the forums with how good they are and things like "We sell these".

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. I won't be using any of my money to find out.

[link]http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12856318/rc-internet-sales[/link]
Now you cost me a keyboard, and I had to clean the beer off the screen and wall.

emengines 04-29-2012 11:00 PM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
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Thanks Steve.

Here are some pics which is cut from the raw video intending for poster.
Because of the oversize of raw video and busy discussion of dealer, the formal video will be a few days later.

For your reference

Jeame


Lightspeed1551 04-30-2012 02:19 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Do the twins run so bad that that need 2 spark plugs per cylinder? [:'(]

emengines 04-30-2012 02:32 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 

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ORIGINAL: Lightspeed1551

Do the twins run so bad that that need 2 spark plugs per cylinder? [:'(]

Hi Lightspeed1551, you are so much sense of humor. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...n/drowning.gif

Maybe all engines with more than one plug run poorly, I think.

pmerritt 04-30-2012 04:02 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Jeame,  I have to admire your stamina to hold up to all the mud slinging while keeping your cool while standing up to allegations and inuendos that aren't your fault.  I would have been much less professional to the slander and accusations by now. 
It seems that the DLE and DA guys think that there are no other engines out there that can compete.  I think that was said of the Toyota and Honda cars years back?   GM, Ford and Chrysler said the foreign auto manufacturers couldn't make a decent car.  Hmmmm.

Make and damned good engines, make them affordable and most of all provide good warranty service and that will speak for itself.  You'll never "un-brand" the DLE/DA boys but you can get your product in the race by selling a good reliable engine that holds up to it's name.

Good luck.

emengines 04-30-2012 05:00 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Hello Pmerritt , thank you very much for understanding and supporting.

Actually, not all of posters are allegations and inuendos. We did about 30pcs EME 55 gassers wrong inlast year, whichis a lessonto remember forever.
Nowadays and in the future, we are going to compete to (but not clone to) DA byprovingreliable engines with reasonable price.

........................A few more words.......................................

From the material, molding, processing of metal and performance, Iam afraid that I can notthink that DA is thebest 2 stokeengines for RC giant plane.
From my opinion,3W, as well as MVVS, may be the top gun of 2 stroke gassers.





Prop_Washer2 04-30-2012 06:50 AM

RE: EME new engines, 35,60 & 120 twin
 
Oh, kinda like the Japanese when they started to build Toyota's and Datsuns for the American Market....??? Toyoglide equals a cloned but smaller Powerglide transmission...plus differential gear arrangment, etc...

Hey if they can build a reliable and cheap engine I'm all for it....!!!


Quote:

ORIGINAL: Mikola

do you guys remember the thread of the EME.55 CRAP engine ? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10714405
he just opened this thread for advertising because along last months he was in the cave without supporting people here..
please do not buy unknown CRAP engines.

from DLE:

<span style="color: rgb(255,0,0)"><span style="font-size: larger">"As you know, lots of manufactures in ZheJiang is based on copying, they never do research and know nothing about engines. They copy it as long as it make profit. Quality is less considered during the manufacturing"</span></span>

http://images.rcuniverse.com/forum/u...69/Lg17438.jpg



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